944/968 front ARB reinforcement brackets

[Tommys86]

We fitted them early on with the race car.... we also had KW3s fitted originally... then over the years....lowered, re-index the rear, camber setup, new bushes, rear drop links..... ripped out the interior, had a cage, plastic nose job (wings, badge, bonnet), sunroof and rear hatch (another controversial subject) - in fact the only standard / road like thing we have is our engine and keys!

Car handles great - in fact Spa last year in the flooding rain our car seemed to step up to the challenge and drove around various cars - 911s, other (mutter quicker...) 944's....

Some say it's because the driver is ginger? And that sunny days are his worst enemy?... all we know is the brackets were fitted!

 

[924Srr27l]

We fitted them early on with the race car.... we also had KW3s fitted originally... then over the years....lowered, re-index the rear, camber setup, new bushes, rear drop links..... ripped out the interior, had a cage, plastic nose job (wings, badge, bonnet), sunroof and rear hatch (another controversial subject) - in fact the only standard / road like thing we have is our engine and keys!
Car handles great - in fact Spa last year in the flooding rain our car seemed to step up to the challenge and drove around various cars - 911s, other (mutter quicker...) 944's....
Some say it's because the driver is ginger? And that sunny days are his worst enemy?... all we know is the brackets were fitted!

Good Tom, it kinda capitalises on my thoughts also that the Knee Jerk Reaction from the aggressive member (As a few) that such a bracket is a death trap and whatever the comment was in regard to ruining the handling doesn't seen to of happened to several others including your Race application?

Some further explanation is all that was required, and this should really be the true essence of a forum (Adult Discussions),
and not personal abuse and non conformity to discuss as some only seem to contribute.

What's the controversy regarding the fibre sunroof panel and lexan hatch, Stiffness... ?

R

 

[TTM]

That is quite a big chip you have on your shoulder.
The stiffeners have nothing to do there, full stop. Now that I have said this I am already amused at how much further drivel you will pull out of your hat trying to put your point forward. It's amusing to feed trolls like yourself just for the sake of seeing your time wasted over your keyboard.

 

[924Srr27l]

That is quite a big chip you have on your shoulder.
The stiffeners have nothing to do there, full stop. Now that I have said this I am already amused at how much further drivel you will pull out of your hat trying to put your point forward. It's amusing to feed trolls like yourself just for the sake of seeing your time wasted over your keyboard.

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The 2nd post in this thread, and also numbers 17 & 43. (TTM)
and responses Numbered 19 + 21 (Eldavo) and 30 & 31 (Zcacogp) all break the above code and match the troll description.



R

 

[Eldavo]

Step away from the keyboard. Read what you've just posted. Understand how in others' eyes you may be deemed guilty of everything you're accusing others of being. Take a deep breath. Turn the computer off. Resist the urge to carry this on.

Seriously Roger, all jokes aside it's in the best interests of the wider forum and community that this stops now. It's no fun seeing every thread populated by various permutations of the same stuff, we have a great vibrant community here that accepts everyone and embraces diversity (even Simon). By (perhaps unwittingly) spamming up every thread it suffocates the people who may post up the odd question or response - not everyone has as much time to spend on here as you - this can mean that we are missing out on individual contributions as people don't want to be questioned to the nth degree or brusquely challenged.

Try to turn up the helpful side a bit, as you obviously are knowledgeable about some subjects, but maybe think about how things can come across in the written word and turn the abrasiveness and self-righteousness down a tad.

I'm sure that you're a fascinating guy to chat to over a brew and a 4-post ramp and I'm equally sure that you wouldnt be as direct and obtuse in a room full of strangers. I'm sure we'll catch up at a meet at some point and may actually get on - and if not I'll be effusively polite about it with a warm smile. (I may also slip a Camembert under your passenger seat though - revenge is a dish best served pungently)

 

[924Srr27l]

Step away from the keyboard. Read what you've just posted.
Ditto

Understand how in others' eyes you may be deemed guilty of everything you're accusing others of being.
I don't slag people with rude insulting comments, I've only highlighted the bullies replies, not actually written what a bunch of To$%^ers they are, that's not allowed..

Take a deep breath. Turn the computer off. Resist the urge to carry this on.
It's a public forum, I have the right to defend myself from insults, start talking on topic for once and stop returning more personal attacks on my character

Seriously Roger, all jokes aside it's in the best interests of the wider forum and community that this stops now.
It's no fun seeing every thread populated by various permutations of the same stuff, we have a great vibrant community here that accepts everyone and embraces diversity (even Simon).
It's no Joke, or fun is it? a community that accepts everyone and diversity ? I think not..

By (perhaps unwittingly) spamming up every thread it suffocates the people who may post up the odd question or response - not everyone has as much time to spend on here as you - this can mean that we are missing out on individual contributions as people don't want to be questioned to the nth degree or brusquely challenged.
It shouldn't be difficult to discuss technical subjects, but a select few don't do that,
(Look back at the posts I've mentioned, then tell me they are not provoking members to reply)
Some members disagree with something I've written and then not only blank any further replies with wording such as "Period" and "full stop" and I'm not discussing it anymore etc...but then proceed to throw personal insults , nobody wants or needs to be questioned to the nth degree but if somebody declares something that need further investigation why should this be such an issue? It's called a adult discussion, but this is clearly not possible for some...


Try to turn up the helpful side a bit, as you obviously are knowledgeable about some subjects, but maybe think about how things can come across in the written word and turn the abrasiveness and self-righteousness down a tad.
Helpful !!! now that's a joke what par of Helpful is this personal abuse ?

I'm sure that you're a fascinating guy to chat to over a brew and a 4-post ramp and I'm equally sure that you wouldnt be as direct and obtuse in a room full of strangers. I'm sure we'll catch up at a meet at some point and may actually get on - and if not I'll be effusively polite about it with a warm smile. (I may also slip a Camembert under your passenger seat though - revenge is a dish best served pungently)
I don't have any desire at all to meet anyone of this nature.

R

 

[edh]

Please, please stop, all of you...

This is a friendly forum with members who have largely been around for years, so perhaps we can appear somewhat harsher with each other from time to time. But it's not anonymous trolling, rather gentle ribbing between friends. It does mean the forum has evolved a certain style which can be misinterpreted.

Roger - come to Rutland and meet a few of us in person. You have created waves on here, perhaps unknowingly, and the last thing we want is to put people off participating in the best 944 forum around (unfortunately we lost a few in the forum re-design fiasco).

I believe that constructive engagement is better than arguments (unless it's Pistonheads )

 

[Diver944]

Ed is absolutely 100% right about the atmosphere we have created on this forum and I'm going to lock this thread now before it starts getting out of hand (I think that is the 2nd time I've done that in about 15 years)

If folks can't behave and 'play nicely' in a closed environment where we all love 944's then we may have to start getting even stricter, which we really don't want to do.