944 turbo
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appletonn
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Gordon,
Thanks for the reply. I really like the look of your car but due to starting a new business can only afford to spend £5k on a turbo and I will wait for a credit crunch bargain []
...something like this perhaps?!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/834176.htm
DavidL
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Sadly it almost certainly will! If you are being pragmatic you will look at the price you will get for yours and then consider what you would be saving on a turbo.
If it helps take what you would really like for yours, say 5k, and then what a decent turbo (like Gordon's) should cost, say 7.5k, and focus on the cost to change rather than the actual figures involved. I did that on our newest Impreza and it made the seemingly poor px look a bit better. Honest.
That D plate turbo looks really nice but you never can tell until you are there and really not until you have run it for a couple of months.
Gordon Attar
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The biggest item to consider with the cheaper cars is how much you will need to spend to bring them up to scratch, in my case it was a few thousand.(i.e. £700 + for a belt change if the history isnt 100%)
The red car seems very cheap, but its lacking a lot of information and being serviced at a main dealer is strange as well as the no sterio and D90's or perhaps the owner doesnt know what he has! as he hasnt mentioned 250 version or 'S' or 'SE' etc. Its well worth a quick visit.
Good luck with the search.
Gordon
The red car seems very cheap, but its lacking a lot of information and being serviced at a main dealer is strange as well as the no sterio and D90's or perhaps the owner doesnt know what he has! as he hasnt mentioned 250 version or 'S' or 'SE' etc. Its well worth a quick visit.
Good luck with the search.
Gordon
EddySpaghetti
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Hi U63af,
What is the spec of your S2?
I am looking for a good one and have struggled - typical, I should have bought the first one that I saw which ended up being the best of the 4 or 5 I have seen.
I need to sell a 1.9 Peugeot 205 GTi if anyone is interested - its a Condition 1 car in steel grey with a rare green fleck half leather interior, pre cat.
Cheers,
Ed
What is the spec of your S2?
I am looking for a good one and have struggled - typical, I should have bought the first one that I saw which ended up being the best of the 4 or 5 I have seen.
I need to sell a 1.9 Peugeot 205 GTi if anyone is interested - its a Condition 1 car in steel grey with a rare green fleck half leather interior, pre cat.
Cheers,
Ed
James_G
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Gordon
Had a look at your car when I was at Northway last week. Looks very nice, and I am big fan of the colour and Clubsport wheels that it has. If I had my time again, I would be looking for a Turbo, but as it is Northway were very complimentary about my car so I am very pleased to be keeping it.
Good luck with the sale.
James
Gordon Attar
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Thanks James
I wasnt aware they were the Clubsport wheels , I thought they were the standard SE Turbo alloys.
I'm a bit surprised it hasnt sold as colours reasonably rare and suits the car.
Regards
Gordon
I wasnt aware they were the Clubsport wheels , I thought they were the standard SE Turbo alloys.
I'm a bit surprised it hasnt sold as colours reasonably rare and suits the car.
Regards
Gordon
Gordon Attar
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Well Adrian
Do let us all have the link as I cant find it!!
By the way the car was advertised on Piston heads in September/October for £6900 and wasnt on there in November or December!!
Do let us all have the link as I cant find it!!
By the way the car was advertised on Piston heads in September/October for £6900 and wasnt on there in November or December!!
pauljmcnulty
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Turbos seem to fit into three categories to me. Original and well cared for beauties, carefully uprated road and track cars, and cheap ones. Strangely enough, two of these categories seem to be more economical in the long run. [8|]
Copperman05
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Would it not be wiser to just get the best 944 you can afford, whether that be a lux, S/S2 or whatever? By all means go for a good Turbo if you can afford it otherwise you could find yourself experiencing some form of deja vu?
Edd
Edd
pauljmcnulty
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I guess it's back to what you want from the car. I've learnt that there's a huge difference between the 8-valve cars and an S2, I'd imagine a turbo is different again. Whatever you're after, they are so cheap that it's easy to buy any 944 varient at the moment. More tricky is getting one that'll not put you back in the position of an unfinished project.
As always, set aside at least £1K above purchase price. At least £1500 would be more realistic as first-year expenses for a turbo I'd suggest. And that's one without obvious issues.
PSH
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Most things you'll already know after all it's a 944 but some things to check.... Oil , make sure it feels good and looks reasonably clean, turbo oil is changed twice as often as normally aspirated cars , or at least it should be. Take it for a drive and see how it pulls , it should be strong , boost should build up quickly to .85bar on a 250 or quicker still on a 220 car to around 0.75bar. On the factory gauge this will read 1.85 and 1.75 bar respectively IIRC. Is there any smoke? blue,white, grey or black and if so when does it show, the reasons for smoke are many and you'd need to check the car over for anyone of these before being able to assertain the cause, some may be simple and others expensive so be warned.
Check the header tank for any signs of contamination, turbo's are renowned for gasket failure especially on cylinder No.4 , it gets very hot there and also theres a design flaw that allows a steam buildup which blocks the flow with resulting gasket failure( not sure if i've explained that bit well enough but trust me it exists).
These cars are 20 plus years old now and so seals will be breaking down, on a turbo this may mean the turbo seal is letting oil through this may show more on idle than heavy boost as back pressure under boost helps to seal. There's a 30 sec water pump that continues to operate after ignition switched off , check to see if this is working , if it isn't and the owner has not let the turbo spool down after use then the bearing may be carboned up and close to failure.
As with all 944's body work and chassis condition is in effect more important than mechanicals, of course it can go to far but don't choose a shabby car with what seems better history or mechanicals over a well looked after car with good paintwork/panels/chassis that may have an issue that needs sorting... smoking turbo for instance?( £350 will get the turbo as good as new again)
You may struggle to find a standard turbo, don't be put of with this though , these engines are very, very strong, but check who did the work and how long ago, if it was done some years ago then you'll probably find it's safe if for no other reason than the cars still running...
Well hope this helps a little , feel free to give me a call on the number in my sig if you find yourself in front of a car that may or may not have a problem.
best of luck
Pete
Check the header tank for any signs of contamination, turbo's are renowned for gasket failure especially on cylinder No.4 , it gets very hot there and also theres a design flaw that allows a steam buildup which blocks the flow with resulting gasket failure( not sure if i've explained that bit well enough but trust me it exists).
These cars are 20 plus years old now and so seals will be breaking down, on a turbo this may mean the turbo seal is letting oil through this may show more on idle than heavy boost as back pressure under boost helps to seal. There's a 30 sec water pump that continues to operate after ignition switched off , check to see if this is working , if it isn't and the owner has not let the turbo spool down after use then the bearing may be carboned up and close to failure.
As with all 944's body work and chassis condition is in effect more important than mechanicals, of course it can go to far but don't choose a shabby car with what seems better history or mechanicals over a well looked after car with good paintwork/panels/chassis that may have an issue that needs sorting... smoking turbo for instance?( £350 will get the turbo as good as new again)
You may struggle to find a standard turbo, don't be put of with this though , these engines are very, very strong, but check who did the work and how long ago, if it was done some years ago then you'll probably find it's safe if for no other reason than the cars still running...
Well hope this helps a little , feel free to give me a call on the number in my sig if you find yourself in front of a car that may or may not have a problem.
best of luck
Pete
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