Anyone NOT had an engine problem?
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Paul Fraser
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I don't thrash mine while cold either, and infrequently when hot for the same general reasons as yourself. As for the other, let us both keep our fingers crossed... 
Paul Fraser
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I've got my fingers crossed for all of us
That means 85% aren't, which is what this thread is all about.
Guest
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I'm tempting providence here but...no problems ( except a small weep on the RHS rocker cover) with my 02 C2 (9K) or previously with my 01 C2 (6K)
...both fairly low miles though.
The rocker cover weep was fixed under warranty during the 24K service. Apparently, if you ever get one, it will invariably be on the RHS. Can't think why this should be.
I have however just purchased an extended warranty if only so I can sleep easy!
...both fairly low miles though.
The rocker cover weep was fixed under warranty during the 24K service. Apparently, if you ever get one, it will invariably be on the RHS. Can't think why this should be.
I have however just purchased an extended warranty if only so I can sleep easy!
oldtimer
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I've got same ( colour , year, transmission) model as Richard Hamilton , reg Nov 97, now 72k miles , including 6 trackdays during 2001-2 , NO engine problems.
Have spent many online hours reading about the well-publicised (by owners) RMS failure and have got used to the idea that this has actually cost me a few £thousand in depressed resale value even though I am in the majority of owners whose cars engines have been unaffected.
PS dont do track days in it anymore though []
Have spent many online hours reading about the well-publicised (by owners) RMS failure and have got used to the idea that this has actually cost me a few £thousand in depressed resale value even though I am in the majority of owners whose cars engines have been unaffected.
PS dont do track days in it anymore though [
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Guest
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Sorry guys but warming up the engine is a red herring. To start with your manual says to drive the car "immediatly" you start it. Secondly I have always kept my revs below 3000 until the temp guage hits the middle and my car has never been tracked. It's also had an oil and filter change every 5000 miles. So how do you account for 7 RMS replacements given that scenario. Despite all this my engine sounds great and it goes brilliantly and "does not" use up oil at all. I have never had to top my oil up between oil changes. BTW, my 7th is leaking again at 240 miles since the last one was fitted two weeks back. And just in case your wondering, I have not taken it past 3000 revs since I am breaking in a new gearbox. Also, my engine block has had the new blue bolts fitted including a new IMS and flange. I might add that the bore was measure too at the last RMS change and it was good.....engineer said the blue bolts and correct torque might be the reason for the bore being within tollerance.....yet it still leaks. Figure that one out.
As expected, this is turning into another RMS problem thread.
If the 'Engine Failure' thread reached 10 pages from a minority of owners, it would have been nice if this had at least matched it, from the majority. It might have instilled a bit more confidence in people thinking of taking the plunge into Porsche ownership.
Oh well, who cares about apathy anyway?
If the 'Engine Failure' thread reached 10 pages from a minority of owners, it would have been nice if this had at least matched it, from the majority. It might have instilled a bit more confidence in people thinking of taking the plunge into Porsche ownership.
Oh well, who cares about apathy anyway?
Guest
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Nigel, the only way "Porsche experts" will get a chance to figure it out is if they get my RMS plagued engine to play with. But since PUK will not replace my engine FOC (they want 50% with a cost to me of £4,500) so this won't happen.
Nic, I didn't pay for the last RMS replacement. It was done free when they changed the gearbox. All I had to pay was £9.00 +VAT for the seal plus a few extra quid for the blue bolts. However, I did pay for the 1st RMS seal replacement over a year ago and all the others including this last one have been done under warranty. But they have told me "in clear terms" they "will not" replace the seal again. They have made their suggestion that the only thing that will fix the RMS problem for good in my 996 is a replacement engine. But as I have already said above, it will cost me a small mortgage. I will have to live with a leaking RMS since I simply can't afford £4,500.......and there will be no guarantee that the replacement will be RMS trouble free either!
Nic, you recall that PUK said something like "they treat each car differently and merit warranty accordingly". Sothing to that nature anyway. Well wouldn;t you think that after 7RMS's, a gearbox and an awful lot of moaning and pleading on a car that has done only 41,000 miles with FPUKSH they would merit I get a new engine FOC. Especially that the first RMS was done at 28,000 miles and just out of warranty. Meanwhile I continue to bitch and moan across the internet forums. I don;t understand their business ethics. All they have to do is replace my engine which will allow me to pay the £750 quid for extended warranty and they instantly would have me back as a happy 3rd time Porsche customer......and prospectively a 4th. There is no merit for out-of-warranty owners. They think they are doing us a favour by offereing 50% good-will. And that's the best they will ever offer. The fact that a prospective Porsche owner should "always" buy a car with Porsche warranty is not only a monopolising situation but it is also a guarantee that the residual values of Porsche ownership go down the tube once the car is out of warranty.
It's going to be an interesting test for us all ahead. I am driving down to Camberley on Thursday for a business meeting (500 mile round trip), then next month am taking it on a Porsche-1.net meet to the Lakes (400 mile round trip) then in May I am "driving" it to Spain on the PCGB trip (not via boat, all the way!) 3000 mile round trip. All this on the same leakng RMS. If it makes it without problems I will be able to vouch that driving around with a faulty RMS is just fine.
Nic, I didn't pay for the last RMS replacement. It was done free when they changed the gearbox. All I had to pay was £9.00 +VAT for the seal plus a few extra quid for the blue bolts. However, I did pay for the 1st RMS seal replacement over a year ago and all the others including this last one have been done under warranty. But they have told me "in clear terms" they "will not" replace the seal again. They have made their suggestion that the only thing that will fix the RMS problem for good in my 996 is a replacement engine. But as I have already said above, it will cost me a small mortgage. I will have to live with a leaking RMS since I simply can't afford £4,500.......and there will be no guarantee that the replacement will be RMS trouble free either!
Nic, you recall that PUK said something like "they treat each car differently and merit warranty accordingly". Sothing to that nature anyway. Well wouldn;t you think that after 7RMS's, a gearbox and an awful lot of moaning and pleading on a car that has done only 41,000 miles with FPUKSH they would merit I get a new engine FOC. Especially that the first RMS was done at 28,000 miles and just out of warranty. Meanwhile I continue to bitch and moan across the internet forums. I don;t understand their business ethics. All they have to do is replace my engine which will allow me to pay the £750 quid for extended warranty and they instantly would have me back as a happy 3rd time Porsche customer......and prospectively a 4th. There is no merit for out-of-warranty owners. They think they are doing us a favour by offereing 50% good-will. And that's the best they will ever offer. The fact that a prospective Porsche owner should "always" buy a car with Porsche warranty is not only a monopolising situation but it is also a guarantee that the residual values of Porsche ownership go down the tube once the car is out of warranty.
It's going to be an interesting test for us all ahead. I am driving down to Camberley on Thursday for a business meeting (500 mile round trip), then next month am taking it on a Porsche-1.net meet to the Lakes (400 mile round trip) then in May I am "driving" it to Spain on the PCGB trip (not via boat, all the way!) 3000 mile round trip. All this on the same leakng RMS. If it makes it without problems I will be able to vouch that driving around with a faulty RMS is just fine.
Nic,
I know. It just seemed a shame that this thread was hijacked by those who HAVE had problems (RMS or EF), rather than proliferating with comments from people who have NOT. (Which was, after all, the subject of the thread).
Mark you, the boys on the GT3 forum can turn an Oil Change thread into one about blow jobs!
MikeO
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Rear Main Seal. It's an oil seal between engine and clutch that dribbles on a significant minority of Boxsters and 996s, and is argued to be related to (but not necessarily the cause of) some engine failures. It is either a potential nightmare, or a few spots of oil on your driveway depending on who you listen to. It would take very little time on this Forum and others to become entirely submerged in details, theories, myth and moans about Porsche as a company, and get thoroughly depressed in the process.
My advice... just enjoy the car.
My advice... just enjoy the car.
MikeO
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Berny,
I'm not being funny but... have you thought of changing the car. There surely comes a point where you have to conclude that the bloody thing's cursed and you cut your losses by changing to another (carefully inspected) 996, or a GT3 or a Turbo, or a M3 for that matter. Just for the sake of sleeping better at night, not to mention the ongoing damage to your wallet.
I'm not being funny but... have you thought of changing the car. There surely comes a point where you have to conclude that the bloody thing's cursed and you cut your losses by changing to another (carefully inspected) 996, or a GT3 or a Turbo, or a M3 for that matter. Just for the sake of sleeping better at night, not to mention the ongoing damage to your wallet.
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