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It was written off before catc/catd regs came into place. The reg no has since been changed. When hpi'd, it shows an insurance claim against the previous number. Told your pal that, but he chose not to hear it. I suspect written off in 1997 due to engine problems or the visible damage, it has never turned a wheel since.
 
modernclassic said:
Eldavo said:
I think Shark fishing is my new favourite hobby ;)


That is all you have to say? I just called you out as a bullsh1tter and you accept it. Your mate has proved himself as a liar and economical with the truth, and you are his mate, a bullsh1tter. I bet you have a great time together.. you two would have great career at the bottom end of the motor trade (or in the church).


What has the Church got to do with a used car dealer's opinions on a cat D? Correct me if I am wrong but, I thought used car dealer's weren't allowed on here after the "shark" shenanigans of a year ago [8|]? I may be wrong on this though, so don't go spitting your dummy's out [:D]!!
 
Ex Skyline said:
What has the Church got to do with a used car dealer's opinions on a cat D? Correct me if I am wrong but, I thought used car dealer's weren't allowed on here after the "shark" shenanigans of a year ago [8|]? I may be wrong on this though, so don't go spitting your dummy's out [:D]!!


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modernclassic said:
It was written off before catc/catd regs came into place. The reg no has since been changed. When hpi'd, it shows an insurance claim against the previous number. Told your pal that, but he chose not to hear it. I suspect written off in 1997 due to engine problems or the visible damage, it has never turned a wheel since.


My car had a bump when it was a year old - I only know that as the receipts for the work are in the folder along with the letter from the insurance company. By your reckoning that equates to a CatD now.

Suddenly your posturing about it being CatD seems even more petty and childish now it's down to your suspicions. So the truth is that I'm not a liar and neither is my friend, whereas you've shown yourself to be extremely economical with the truth on many occasions over many years. I won't hold my breath for an apology.

Thanks for your input, at no point did you come across like a petulant child so that's nice, don't let the door hit you on the way out :)

If anyone wants more info then give Chris a call, if you're seriously interested I'll go and take a look if you like.
 
Eldavo said:
..you come across like a petulant child..



I think everybody on here that has the least bit of sense know that it you and your cleek of mates that make this an unpleasant place. I just call a spade a spade.

If anyone would like to see the HPi report for this please email me.

Recorded on VCAR. Damaged on condition alert register 28/12/1994. Reg at the time was H8ELL.


 
Here you go.. I speak only the truth.

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view full size here..

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Now, lets see if your honest mate will update his listing now?

Eldavo said:
The Liar who is uneconomical with the truth has bought and sold CatC and D cars before now and always states that clearly, so if he says that nobody has made him aware of the fact I'm far more inclined to believe him. It probably says more about him than you though that he said if it is CatD then he'll happily amend the listing accordingly.



It also recorded the previous Hpi checks. I see somebody checked it before they bought it on 12/11/15...


Eldavo said:
don't let the door hit you on the way out :)


 
modernclassic said:
... you two would have great career at the bottom end of the motor trade (or in the church).


It's rare I take active offence but your comment above has succeeded in making me do so.

It has also robbed you of any credence in my eyes. And I doubt I'm the only one, judging by Pete's comments.

A despicable comment.


Oli.
 
That's me finished now if I've offend you! It was a poor attempt at humour (I have nothing against the church or the motor trade and infact my mother is actaully an elder and plays the organ every sunday, does yours?)
 
Come on.. back on topic.. This car is an undeclared write off and it is not noted on the advert (and im the bad guy for telling everyone lol!!)
 
Back on topic, thank you, I was going to buy this to save it, send someone to collect it and re-commission, as it has been registered (in my eyes) it is not financially or personally worth saving from the state it is in, probably best to break for spares now :(
Thank you once again for sharing the hpi details you have saved me a lot of hassle.

Jason
 
Jase1969 said:
probably best to break for spares now :(
Thank you once again for sharing the hpi details you have saved me a lot of hassle.

Jason


I am glad you said that and not me (If I said that it would be denied and I would get flamed), but that was my opinion too.
 
Well done Mark i think you have saved Jason from a lot of grief just a shame some on here get so bitter and twisted
 
I don't understand why anyone would blow lots of money patching up a very rusty S2, there's enough nice examples out there at sensible prices or if you want a project buy one needing very minor work and expense as Frenchy has done.

At the end of the day you would still be driving a patched up rotter for the same money as a well cared for example.

cheers
 

Eldavo said:
The Liar who is uneconomical with the truth has bought and sold CatC and D cars before now and always states that clearly, so if he says that nobody has made him aware of the fact I'm far more inclined to believe him. It probably says more about him than you though that he said if it is CatD then he'll happily amend the listing accordingly.


The listing has yet to be happily amended in light of the facts, the attempted deception continues. You say he didn't hear when we told him weeks ago it was vcar, he hasn't heard you either.
Now, this is looking like I was correct all along and when you launched into an unprovoked attack and dragged me into your conversation you made a silly mistake as now your friend needs to acknowledge the hpi report and update his listing- rendering the car as wholly unviable- and will likely now have to break it for parts. With friends like that, the man needs no enemies.
I think next time, best just keep your caustic remarks to yourself unless you are 1000% sure you are right.

 
Hi Paul, it was more about putting it back on the road. I was looking at a five year project, some with specialist help the rest of the time would have been me tinkering for fun. I've always found that when you start poking about with most older cars you end up replacing most parts so why not save a 944 in dire need. Whilst I know realistically I would never recover the money invested in the car you still want a solid history to support a sale when you have finished with the car. I initially put an offer in of £2K as I thought that was fair given the time and work required and went to £2.5K as I still thought it was worth saving, unfortunately given the information it's not. There's not enough fun factor in the restoration to persuade me to purchase. I'll probably go with your advice and buy a good car, something to use and a running restoration, something that has a little less work perhaps. I just hate to see a 944 in this state :(
 
modernclassic said:
Eldavo said:
The Liar who is uneconomical with the truth has bought and sold CatC and D cars before now and always states that clearly, so if he says that nobody has made him aware of the fact I'm far more inclined to believe him. It probably says more about him than you though that he said if it is CatD then he'll happily amend the listing accordingly.


The listing has yet to be happily amended in light of the facts, the attempted deception continues. You say he didn't hear when we told him weeks ago it was vcar, he hasn't heard you either.
Now, this is looking like I was correct all along and when you launched into an unprovoked attack and dragged me into your conversation you made a silly mistake as now your friend needs to acknowledge the hpi report and update his listing- rendering the car as wholly unviable- and will likely now have to break it for parts. With friends like that, the man needs no enemies.
I think next time, best just keep your caustic remarks to yourself unless you are 1000% sure you are right.


I was going to leave this here but you insist on dragging things back up - no doubt buoyed on by a little support (despite the overwhelming majority of opinion being the opposite).

As I still see it, your report says that there was a register alert on a car in 1994 - by your logic this means it was a write off. I can't help but wonder how may cars that have passed through your hands over the years have been involved in a bump and an insurance claim but you've conveniently decided that they weren't write offs but it suits you on this occasion? Let's ignore the fact that there was a number plate change the following year (can you get a plate off a written off car a year later, I genuinely don't know?) so it would seem that the car was still in use.

For what it's worth I agree with Ruddy that it's not a cost-effective car to buy and use,however if you took a long term approach as suggested then the project is viable, overpriced but viable. Chris says that the car isn't recorded on the HPI register to the best of his knowledge and has shown himself to be more truthful than most by taking the time to look into that fact before listing the car for sale.

If you'd come on here and said: "nearly bought it but it's in need of lots of work and isn't a viable quick project, had a bump 12 years ago that was settled by insurance but shows as HPI clear" people would be grateful for your input and contribution.

This isn't a clique but a community where people try and help each other out and also give each other the benefit of the doubt when necessary too. Feel free to misquote me, curse me and PM people about me all you want; I'm off to spend the next 30mins researching bonnets - I don't waste my weekends ;)


 
I've never heard of this modern classics chimp before but all I can now say is I'll go out of my way to never, ever consider dealing with him/her/it until Kingdom comes.

What a cretin.
 
The car is VCAR. It states clearly on the HPI report that is was written off in 1994 while it had H8ELL number on it. The H8ELL number came off in 1995, replaced by its current number. Take off the blinkers. Go and call HPI if this is unclear, then go and tell your freind to adjust his listing.
I will call your local council/trading standards this week myself and report his person that "buys and sells Cat C and D all the time" as an unregistered dealer with no trading licence, paying no taxes, hiding behind the image of a private man and selling undeclared writeoffs to the public. OK?


 
modernclassic said:
That's me finished now if I've offend you! It was a poor attempt at humour (I have nothing against the church or the motor trade and infact my mother is actaully an elder and plays the organ every sunday, does yours?)


No, my Mother can't play a Church Organ. Nor would she even if she could as she is very old and frail. I really don't want this to now turn into some sort of childish competition or, an attempt to outdo one another. Please leave the Church out of your petty squabbling!
 
OK..I will back on topic.

It's VCAR. Waiting for honest John's (aka azamat_bagatov_2) listing to be updated.



 

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