Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[daro911]

Spydermen who never made it to the Silverstone Classic you can see it on your TV and hopefully make it next July[] If you were there re-live it, if you weren't do not miss it! Watch the Silverstone Classic highlights on ITV4 9PM Thursday 15th August 9AM Sunday 18th August 8PM Wednesday 21st August 8PM Monday 9th September Set your recorders now...

 

[Andy Fagan]

Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 No still image, just a moving one if you want to er, um, er, view, er listen, digest, um, no girls, er just a car and er, oh well, er dont watch![] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FWt_bWkD48 Er, spot the deliberate error - well, um, er not deliberate really![]

Great looking car John. The 1600 horsepower engine must've enabled it to keep up with a Bugatti Veyron but unfortunately it's only now producing 75hp[]

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

May or may not help you until Mr D arrives [link=http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/boxster-cayman/253358-pdk-vs-manuel-cayman-r.html]http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/boxster-cayman/253358-pdk-vs-manuel-cayman-r.html[/link] [link=http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-boxster-chat/69732-pdk-pros-cons.html]http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-boxster-chat/69732-pdk-pros-cons.html[/link]

 

[Andy Fagan]

Thanks Daro911 [&:][&:] They are mostly all the pro's and cons I've had in my head already, although with all due respect the Americans have very different angle on things to us!!

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Thanks Daro911 [&:][&:] They are mostly all the pro's and cons I've had in my head already, although with all due respect the Americans have very different angle on things to us!!

Personal experience usually has manual lovers like myself sticking to manuals despite the brilliance of PDK DSG boxes I drove my brothers PDK for a good 30 minute blast and had great fun and went a lot quicker than my manual on the same run back to back but which was the more engaging/fun/fullfilling THE MANUAL Bottom line anyone who slightly favours an auto will happily go PDK and in my case its vice versa with a manual[&o]

 

[MrDemon]

The box is so sweet, a manual makes it imo. I love this car

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

I think a couple of guys on here have PDK so hopefully you'll get some feedback from owners. As for resale and maintenance. There'll always be those for which PDK is a must have, and i've seen PDK Spyders sell as quick as manual ones, so the demand is there. When I was looking I was open to both even though I was leaning towards manual. Cars were so scarce. I felt i'd get the most out of it after some time with it, despite being a bit unfamiliar at first. Reliability seems proven. You won't find much on the web about PDK failure. Yes there have been some but nothing i'd say was a concern & the ones I saw were a straight resolution under warranty. The only lingering doubt though (although completely unfounded & just my personal concern) is, the PDK has only been around.in Porsche road cars since 2008. So if one is planning to keep.the car long, it's only proved itself up to 5 years so far. I don't know if OPC's can work on them yet but it used to be the case that any PDK problem required a full transmission swap unless it was a software fix. That may have been for Porsche to be able to study any early issues & the tech was too complex to let OPC's loose on, or because it isn't a serviceable item. Various figures were muttered on the Internet about how much one would cost. I never took any of them as fact but it may be close to quarter of the value of a second hand Cayman R. But still, Porsche raced PDK boxes for many years before bringing it to the road, so it's not experimental technology. It's been in race cars since the 1980's, long before the DSG boxes that appeared in other road cars before Porsche was ready to bring PDK to the streets. Would I have one in terms of reliability and maintenance? Yes. Would I have one beyond 10 years old when the car can no longer be covered by Porsche warranty? I honestly don't know. Ask me again when its been around for another 5 years with a pretty flawless reputation.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 No still image, just a moving one if you want to er, um, er, view, er listen, digest, um, no girls, er just a car and er, oh well, er dont watch![] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FWt_bWkD48 Er, spot the deliberate error - well, um, er not deliberate really![]

Great looking car John. The 1600 horsepower engine must've enabled it to keep up with a Bugatti Veyron but unfortunately it's only now producing 75hp[]

Well done Flat 6 - the only one to get it right.[] If she only had 1600hp - but with the 75 it will still nudge over the ton (only done that once) and will quite happily sit on the motorway at 70 plus all day! So its er, um over and er out![]

 

[homerdog]

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

After a year with PDK, I have to say that my initial reservations were unfounded. The simplest way to describe how I feel about it is that if I was still able to spec a Spyder from new, it would have PDK. The black Cayman at Silverstone, with red leather, buckets, Spyder wheels, PDK and PCCB looks perfect to me. If it was a Spyder I would have bought it by now!

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: homerdog

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

After a year with PDK, I have to say that my initial reservations were unfounded. The simplest way to describe how I feel about it is that if I was still able to spec a Spyder from new, it would have PDK. The black Cayman at Silverstone, with red leather, buckets, Spyder wheels, PDK and PCCB looks perfect to me. If it was a Spyder I would have bought it by now!

I was fairly open minded about PDK when I was looking for a Spyder. As it happened the best deal I could find was on a PDK car so I thought I'd give it a shot. In essence, it is a simply brilliant box - but the steering wheel paddles are a "must have" in my view. You can't measure "fun" or "engagement" but I am surprised at how much fun the box can produce, particularly in Sport Plus mode with manual shifting. Added to that is the fact that around town it's much more plesant, and on the motorway the 7th cruising gear is more efficient, and you can see the appeal. It is also very flexible, more so than a manual. Finally, you don't have the dreaded "over-revs" issue that appears to be causing more and more problems regarding re-sale and warranties. In summary, autos for me used to be a complete no-no. Now that I've had a PDK for a while and quite a few miles I wouldn't necessarily spec it and I wouldn't pay a premium to have it, but it's certainly not a deal breaker. And that's from a sworn manual enthusiast. It doesn't appear to make much difference in terms of re-sale - the Aqua Spyder sold very quickly (for £2k more than 911V had sold it for) with PDK.

 

[colski1961]

I went for the Cayman R in PDK after driving both the manual and PDK, although the manual was the more involved I went for the PDK as the changes and speed of change were sweeter (in Sport and Sport Plus). I haven't regretted it yet, superb box. My opinion, for what it's worth, is go with the PDK if you can get one.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

Andy if you are going PDK this is a great spec R just needs the PSE[] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-r-pdk--ceramic-brakes/1440301#

 

[Andy Fagan]

Thanks for all the input, I think I will see what comes up with options I want and decide from there. I still think the manual is 1st choice as the clutch/gears can get you out of trouble at times on the track, and not quite sure how that'd work with the PDK [&:]

 

[Andy Fagan]

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

Andy if you are going PDK this is a great spec R just needs the PSE[] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-r-pdk--ceramic-brakes/1440301#

Yes thanks, this is on my consider list ATM, although if buying from a dealer I'd prefer it to be an OPC at that price.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

Andy if you are going PDK this is a great spec R just needs the PSE[] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-r-pdk--ceramic-brakes/1440301#

Yes thanks, this is on my consider list ATM, although if buying from a dealer I'd prefer it to be an OPC at that price.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-987-gen-ii-r-2012/1492522

 

[rob.kellock]

Andy, Porsche should pay you to test a PDK car - if you can't break it nobody will! I can still smell the brakes of your speedy Boxster at Oulton Park []

 

[daro911]

Nice looking parking spot for a Spyder

 

[Andy Fagan]

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan Still on my quest to find a Cayman R but have had a couple of disappointments. I am even starting to consider a PDK gearbox now and was wondering what any of you guys with one think of them? Also are there any issues with maintenance and/or resale?

Andy if you are going PDK this is a great spec R just needs the PSE[] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-r-pdk--ceramic-brakes/1440301#

Yes thanks, this is on my consider list ATM, although if buying from a dealer I'd prefer it to be an OPC at that price.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-987-gen-ii-r-2012/1492522

No A/C on this one unfortunately, which is on my "Essential" List

 

[MrDemon]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/cayman/porsche-cayman-r-987-gen-ii--in-white-manual-sports-chrono-exhaust-and-carbon-seats-----------------2012/1616601# looks perfect to me