Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[flat6]

Great comments from you guys over the weekend. How can three different guys share exactly the same opinion. Some readers might think we're sharing a script[] You guys have an opinion that is 100% on point with what I think of the car. I think that's because, the Spyder's attributes are no more than a handful but they are very poignant - grip, handling, steering, feedback, looks, exclusivity. If you enjoy Spyder ownership, it'll be for that handful of emotive reasons. Whilst the same opinions unite us about the Spyder, I can see that very we're different guys and may go for very different choices if we ever move on from the Spyder. With the Spyder in particular, I found user's opinions useful. The motoring journalists get a few hours with the car and in that time, my guess is only a few minutes is spent on the roof, if at all. The must then apply a guestimate to the roof based on other cars with manual roofs and think it's a safe bet to describe it as poor, some going as far as saying it is leaky. They clearly haven't tested it. The roof has unusual good looks and so they guess it's also a safe bet that something that looks like that has been designed without functionality as a priority. But, hidden out of site is an un-sexy looking lever which clamps the roof relentlessly into place over the roll-over hoops using an un-sexy looking cable, bar and hook. That was designed, for functionality alone. OK, so we've done the roof to death now[]. Hopefully everyone has been convinced[]

I got interested in the Spyder because of the whole design ethos of the car, the looks and the rarity. I had a short test drive in one, hoping the ride wouldn't be too harsh. On a short, tame, accompanied test drive, you don't get to expose some of the Spyder's key attributes. As daro said, you need a few hours with it, preferably without a chaperone[]. I found the ride to be fine and that was enough for me to go buy one. However, it was only after owning the car that I got to discover the driving attributes. And, as rob has found, there's another bonus. All this comes with an engine that is as economical to run as any other Boxster/Cayman []

 

[GTV6]

After complaints about the tarpaulin roof on the Spyder the next generation will have an improved version.

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[daro911]

ORIGINAL: GTV6 After complaints about the tarpaulin roof on the Spyder the next generation will have an improved version.

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I think that is a one off for the Pope and not future production versions []

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 It may have been on this thread but cant recall seeing it. PDF File from Porsche showing all the options/wheels/colours and info etc in booklet form for the Spyde http://www11.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/Catalogue_Boxster_Spyder_MY10_UK.pdf

Does anyone have a link to the price-list that is mentioned in that brochure?

 

[jdpef356]

Try http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-price.html

 

[flat6]

Good find John[]. Billy1, have you got your eye on one?[]

 

[jdpef356]

Mallett must be creaking in his shoes [] http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=643919&mpage=1&key=&#643919 Just another 610 Hits on this thread and we are well passed and off into the distance[][]

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Try http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-price.html

Many thanks - I found that link but would be interested to see a full price list. I presume one was produced as it was mentioned in that PDF brochure.

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: flat6 Good find John[]. Billy1, have you got your eye on one?[]

Maybe! I'm just interested in where they are in terms of depreciation. Although list price was £46k+ it looks like you could add a significant premium to that price with options - £60k+? In which case some of these cars (even after only 18 months) have lost cira 50% of their value, which you'd normally expect after 3 years. Arguably that makes them a bargain now. I'd just like to know what all the options cost.

 

[flat6]

Hi billy1 I have a hard copy only. The thing with many Porsche models is that many of the cosmetic options don't add to the re-sale value. You are right that some Spyders are optioned up to approaching £60K, but the difference in re-sale value between a heavily loaded car and a bare bones car is minimal. Try that with any model on the OPC used car locator and the outcome is similar.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Try http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-price.html

Many thanks - I found that link but would be interested to see a full price list. I presume one was produced as it was mentioned in that PDF brochure.

Occasionally come up on e bay for sale Billy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-Price-List-Specification-Brochure-2010-/121041517089?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item1c2ea2fa21&nma=true&si=cuhazXYGg2TuXiRV58HsuXvdGtA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[flat6]

P.S. Pretty much all the options are standard 987 Boxster options and Porsche Exclusive options for the 987 Boxster. Therefore, if you find a source of pricing for those, it's the same pricing for the Spyder. What does kinda make it a bargain is if you could price up optioning aluminium doors from the GT3, carbon fibre bucket seats and sports suspension onto a standard Boxster, then you factor that in also. You can look at other models to get a cost for the seats and the new 981 sports suspension option to get an estimate for the 'no-cost' suspension on the Spyder. Also remember that some other components are standard on the Spyder, such as the LSD, which is an option on other models.

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Try http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-price.html

Many thanks - I found that link but would be interested to see a full price list. I presume one was produced as it was mentioned in that PDF brochure.

Occasionally come up on e bay for sale Billy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-Price-List-Specification-Brochure-2010-/121041517089?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item1c2ea2fa21&nma=true&si=cuhazXYGg2TuXiRV58HsuXvdGtA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Thanks very much. Strange that the brochure is available by PDF but not the price-list!

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: billy1 I'm just interested in where they are in terms of depreciation. Although list price was £46k+ it looks like you could add a significant premium to that price with options - £60k+? In which case some of these cars (even after only 18 months) have lost cira 50% of their value, which you'd normally expect after 3 years. Arguably that makes them a bargain now. I'd just like to know what all the options cost.

Talking of depreciation as flat6 has stated a bare bones Spyder will only be a few thousand cheaper than a fat boy version. Having said that it is the bullying tactics by OPC sales people today that completely put me off buying a new 981. I like a manual car and I have no need for sat nav however when discussing this spec with 2 OPC's I was told unless I went PDK and Sat Nav come resell time I would be looking at a lot less than the original cost of either of these options in extra depreciation [] Having seen the depreciation on Spyders there was no way I was diving in with an order for at least 12 months + anyway After the initial rush of blood to the head I have concluded that the only 981 I would be interested in would have to be a Spyder version or possibly a GTS version In the meantime I am more than happy to drive the Spyder indefinitely until a suitably unique replacement is announced [8D]

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Mallett must be creaking in his shoes [] http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=643919&mpage=1&key=򝍏 Just another 610 Hits on this thread and we are well passed and off into the distance[][]

We have a long way to go in terms of posts though[&o] Our 944 brethren have a some mammoth threads at numbers 2 and 4 charts. They have a few years head start and no doubt there's more of them chipping in too[] http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/searchpro.asp?searchfor=active

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: jdpef356

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Try http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-price.html

Many thanks - I found that link but would be interested to see a full price list. I presume one was produced as it was mentioned in that PDF brochure.

Occasionally come up on e bay for sale Billy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-Price-List-Specification-Brochure-2010-/121041517089?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item1c2ea2fa21&nma=true&si=cuhazXYGg2TuXiRV58HsuXvdGtA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Thanks very much. Strange that the brochure is available by PDF but not the price-list!

It's normal for Porsche isn't it? After a model is removed from the new car configurator, you'll struggle to find pricing online as the Tequipment and Exclusive sections never contain pricing. Maybe it enables them to be able to revise the prices of previous models' components should the need ever arise? Although, I only know of them reducing the pricing of servicing of older models. Those who own older cars might know better as to whether parts pricing changes over the years. As for the original price list, some options can't be retrofitted under Tequipment, so the pricing becomes obsolete.

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: jdpef356

ORIGINAL: billy1

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Try http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-price.html

Many thanks - I found that link but would be interested to see a full price list. I presume one was produced as it was mentioned in that PDF brochure.

Occasionally come up on e bay for sale Billy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Boxster-Spyder-Price-List-Specification-Brochure-2010-/121041517089?pt=UK_CarParts_Vehicles_Manuals_Litterature_ET&hash=item1c2ea2fa21&nma=true&si=cuhazXYGg2TuXiRV58HsuXvdGtA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Thanks very much. Strange that the brochure is available by PDF but not the price-list!

It's normal for Porsche isn't it? After a model is removed from the new car configurator, you'll struggle to find pricing online as the Tequipment and Exclusive sections never contain pricing. Maybe it enables them to be able to revise the prices of previous models' components should the need ever arise? Although, I only know of them reducing the pricing of servicing of older models. Those who own older cars might know better as to whether parts pricing changes over the years. As for the original price list, some options can't be retrofitted under Tequipment, so the pricing becomes obsolete.

Obsolete indeed, but none-the-less interesting if you're looking to buy second hand (albeit I entirely agree that there doesn't appear to be a significant weight added/subtracted due to optional spec on Spyders). In some respects the brochure is also obsolete (from Porsche's perspective) if the car isn't being sold new anymore.

 

[chrisH]

Having said that it is the bullying tactics by OPC sales people today that completely put me off buying a new 981. I like a manual car and I have no need for sat nav however when discussing this spec with 2 OPC's I was told unless I went PDK and Sat Nav come resell time I would be looking at a lot less than the original cost of either of these options in extra depreciation [] [/quote] Daro, When I looked around at GTS's recently I was told that PDK is more in demand and so commands a higher value than manual and that PCM is to be included too. With Boxster and Cayman I was told that PDK gives you a higher trade-in but PCM was NOT essential to get a good trade-in. However IMO you have to accept that on a 50k car PCM IS expected to be part of the spec and on the 981 more so than on the 987 as it has the 991 displays. I dont think this is bullying tactics, its just the mentality of today / tomorrow's average second hand buyer.[] Chris

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: billy1 Having said that it is the bullying tactics by OPC sales people today that completely put me off buying a new 981. I like a manual car and I have no need for sat nav however when discussing this spec with 2 OPC's I was told unless I went PDK and Sat Nav come resell time I would be looking at a lot less than the original cost of either of these options in extra depreciation [] ]

Not that I have anything against the Tiptronic (mine is a manual) but just look at the resale values now of 993 Manual V Tiptronic[] I expect they told the same tale to 993 Buyers - What you must have Sir is the latest gizmo and everyone wants the must have is the Tiptronic.[&o] Its your money you buy,you drive,you enjoy your choice!

 

[rob.kellock]

New one hits the web: http://mobile.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-current/porsche-boxster-spyder-10-10-pdk/1040400