Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

daro911 · Sep 11, 2016

Possibly the last sunny hot Sunday this September so after a nice topless run I decided to be brave and to celebrate exactly 4 month's ownership 100% topless motoring since leaving the showroom I better see if I can put the roof up for the first time and leave it up for the next 7 days whilst I am away [8D]

I need some practice as it took 6 attempts to get the catch to engage with the header rail as its all but impossible to pull the roof to the header with one hand whilst trying to press the electric close roof catch with the other!

Is it just me or is it a poor design concept by Porsche [&:] don't know exactly how but got there finally[

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CLIFFWILKINS · Sep 11, 2016

I think as the fabric roof is stretched a bit it will be easier to close try leaving the roof up a while to stretch it.

I have heard with useage they get better to close.

flat6 · Sep 11, 2016

Hello Daro. Wow, to see a roof on your spyder is a rare sight lol. Hopefully as Cliff says they've added some extra taughtness so that it will be just right when worn in.

Well, you've certainly had a decent summer to get your money's worth.

Did the brakes calm down a bit or are they still quite sharp? I think we're used to Porsche brakes allowing quite a lot of travel and a good prod. I drove a Scirocco thay is as you described and the difference takes some getting used to. A short dab at low speeds and I was doing an emergency stop!

daro911 · Sep 12, 2016

flat6 said:
Did the brakes calm down a bit or are they still quite sharp? I think we're used to Porsche brakes allowing quite a lot of travel and a good prod. I drove a Scirocco thay is as you described and the difference takes some getting used to. A short dab at low speeds and I was doing an emergency stop!

Hi flat6 brakes didn't calm down I guess I did

just have to remember to be very light on the loafer when going for middle peddle Come rain or shine it's only good weather for me and the Spyder outings [8D]

jdpef356 · Sep 12, 2016

Number game. Seen on PH. Anyone care to confirm?

226 total 981 Spyders to 30.06.16 2015 80 2016 146

Andrew Killington · Sep 12, 2016

Alt striping

[link=http://kistudios.com/product/porsche-981-boxster-004/#mobile-menu]http://kistudios.com/prod...xster-004/#mobile-menu[/link]

bowlane · Sep 12, 2016

I can't bring myself to pay over list for a car, no matter how good. Happy to wait until winter to see if any appear under £70k.

Are they worth £20k above a GTS?

Andrew Killington · Sep 13, 2016

Imo yes worth every penny

kitchens · Sep 13, 2016

Cant see them sub £70K for a while yet even into winter ,but never say never .Most cars with modest spec where £66-70K .

MrDemon · Sep 13, 2016

bowlane said:
I can't bring myself to pay over list for a car, no matter how good. Happy to wait until winter to see if any appear under £70k.

Are they worth £20k above a GTS?

I would take the GTS with a working roof ;-)

Joking aside, no it's not worth £30k more as that's the price of each atm, the GTS is a great bit of kit and a detuned 3.8 is not all that exciting. depends what you are after, every car has a market atm, if you want that odd ball rare car then yes it's worth £30k more, but don't go on performance or get too tied up with the Spyder having a 3.8. Ie buy it for the car not the engine size and that will help you make up which to go for, no wrong choice.

Andrew Killington · Sep 13, 2016

I cant agree with D on this one; the 3.8 lump makes the car; the performance in the real world over the GTS is noticeable, it sounds a lot better, less contrived than the GTS, and I could never go back to the 987 Spyder which is off the pace compared to the new car.

it will be so interesting to see what the next model GT4 and Spyder bring to the table as they will have to outgun the 718 GTS versions when they arrive.

of course what matters is what you want as an individual; drive a GTS drive a Spyder and then decide.

some will major on feel and in that respect no doubt the 987 beats the 981 . I really think only you can decide

MrDemon · Sep 13, 2016

off the pace lol , try a 911 turbo S to make you feel what off the pace really means ;-)

Spyders and cars like this are not about pace, it's a useless pointless stat.

I doubt you can keep WOT in your car for more than few seconds ! the gears are so long and the engine so lazy that it's very hard to keep WOT in these cars yo uare going to fast , yep 85 mph in 2nd gear fast to really enjoy it !

we have cars doing sub 3 seconds to 60, 6 seconds to a ton, 8.5 to 124 mph !!! any Boxster and Cayman IS WELL off the pace of the new bread of fast turbo cars.

981 GTS PDK to 60mph is 4.1 in PDK sport and 10.1 to a ton

981 3.8 Spyder to 60mph is 4.5 lol slower than the GTS in fact !!! and to a ton a tad faster at 9.1

the old 987.2 spyder is still 4.4 and 10.3 to 60 and 100mph, it's pointless stats in the real world, maybe a 1/4 car length in it on a drag race !!!

and again that's if you can keep the car at WOT which you cannot !!!

at the lights to uk legal speeds the 981 spyder is slower than both a PDK GTS and the old Spyder !!!

As all these cars are pretty slow vs modern turbo cars, ie hot hatch slow these days, you buy them for feel and you hit the nail on the head "some will major on feel and in that respect no doubt the 987 beats the 981"

flat6 · Sep 13, 2016

daro911 said:
flat6 said:

Did the brakes calm down a bit or are they still quite sharp? I think we're used to Porsche brakes allowing quite a lot of travel and a good prod. I drove a Scirocco thay is as you described and the difference takes some getting used to. A short dab at low speeds and I was doing an emergency stop!

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Hi flat6 brakes didn't calm down I guess I did just have to remember to be very light on the loafer when going for middle peddle Come rain or shine it's only good weather for me and the Spyder outings [8D]

Lol! I'll check them out for you some time - can't beat a second opinion ;-)

spyderwhite · Sep 13, 2016

Official porsche figures for Cayman CR and GTS and GT4 I don't have boxster but will be slightly slower!

CR 5.0 secs manual 4.9/4.7 Pdk for 0-62 mph . (GTS 4.9/4.8/4.6). (GT4. 4.4 secs)

10.7 manual 10.5/ 10.2 pdk 0-99 mph. *(est the same ). *( est circa 9 secs)

17.2 manual 17.0/16.7 pdk 0-124mph. ( GTS 16.9/16.8/ 16 .6). (GT4 14.5 secs)

the gt4 is a lot quicker than the CR and GTS which have similar performance so the 981 spyder will be the same compared to 987 spyder and boxster GTS !

spyderwhite · Sep 13, 2016

MrDemon · Sep 13, 2016

spyderwhite said:
the gt4 is a lot quicker than the CR and GTS which have similar performance so the 981 spyder will be the same compared to 987 spyder and boxster GTS !

that's the point, the GT4 is NOT a lot quicker at all maybe a 1/4 of a car to 60mph and if you get it just right a car to 100mph at best !.

you really need 100Bhp more to pull on another car on the road, these cars are more about how long you dare drive at WOT or how stupid you are as to what is quicker.

Ravon a very good pilot in his modded GT4 had trouble even getting past a Cayman GTS PDK at Silverstone, there is nothing it in I promise you.

I have a laugh with my mates M3 >400BHp DCT car and the GT4 is dead on level to 150 mph while my Spyder hugs it's rear quarter to a ton then BHP wins and he start to pull a gap over a ton.

that's a car with a great V8 engine and 80 bhp more than the Spyder.

997 GTS has 414BHp my lesser BHP cars keep with them to a ton also.

So paper stats quoting 1 second faster is utter pub talk and pointless.

Andrew Killington · Sep 13, 2016

MrDemon said:
off the pace lol , try a 911 turbo S to make you feel what off the pace really means ;-)

Spyders and cars like this are not about pace, it's a useless pointless stat.

I doubt you can keep WOT in your car for more than few seconds ! the gears are so long and the engine so lazy that it's very hard to keep WOT in these cars yo uare going to fast , yep 85 mph in 2nd gear fast to really enjoy it !

we have cars doing sub 3 seconds to 60, 6 seconds to a ton, 8.5 to 124 mph !!! any Boxster and Cayman IS WELL off the pace of the new bread of fast turbo cars.

981 GTS PDK to 60mph is 4.1 in PDK sport and 10.1 to a ton

981 3.8 Spyder to 60mph is 4.5 lol slower than the GTS in fact !!! and to a ton a tad faster at 9.1

the old 987.2 spyder is still 4.4 and 10.3 to 60 and 100mph, it's pointless stats in the real world, maybe a 1/4 car length in it on a drag race !!!

and again that's if you can keep the car at WOT which you cannot !!!

at the lights to uk legal speeds the 981 spyder is slower than both a PDK GTS and the old Spyder !!!

As all these cars are pretty slow vs modern turbo cars, ie hot hatch slow these days, you buy them for feel and you hit the nail on the head "some will major on feel and in that respect no doubt the 987 beats the 981"

beleve me the 981 Spyder is quicker than the GTS and 987, this is from someone who has owned each of the 3 cars, I don't find the engine lazy at all perhaps you have a duff one?

as for driving enjoyment the 981Spyder mullahs the other 2 but perhaps it just ticks my boxes and you have different criteria.

spyderwhite · Sep 13, 2016

I agree with Andrew my gt4 is a hell of a lot quicker to 90mph than my old spyder and that's not even passing 5k revs!

Porsche fiqures on paper puts the 981spyder quicker than a pdk gts in sport mode just ! so how is a 981 spyder slower? and the 987 spyder is slower than the gts!

manual for manual the new one is 0.5 second quicker to 60 hitting a ton over 1.5 seconds quicker and so the gap increases

Andy Fagan · Sep 13, 2016

I have to say that the CR can hold it's own against 981 Spyder and GT4 on track. Here is a video of me following a 981 Spyder driven by a very handy driver who whizzed past Mr D's Spyder in his yellow GT3 at Anglesey [

] You can see he has the speed on the straights but they're not set up as well as the CR for the bends [

] You can see that even after being held up by the GT3 for a while, the CR still had the legs and handling. (PS: I was on PS2 and Spyder on Cups IIRC)

[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGTvx19VSI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGTvx19VSI[/link]

jdpef356 · Sep 14, 2016

Andy Fagan said:
I have to say that the CR can hold it's own against 981 Spyder and GT4 on track. Here is a video of me following a 981 Spyder driven by a very handy driver who whizzed past Mr D's Spyder in his yellow GT3 at Anglesey [] You can see he has the speed on the straights but they're not set up as well as the CR for the bends [] You can see that even after being held up by the GT3 for a while, the CR still had the legs and handling. (PS: I was on PS2 and Spyder on Cups IIRC)

[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGTvx19VSI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGTvx19VSI[/link]

The forum has come to light, no all true though?[&:] See above/below

'981 Spyder driven by a very handy driver who whizzed past Mr D's Spyder'

Not possible, surely[

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