Brakes
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There was a chap on here recently who was proposing to fit the Brembo calipers to his lux, and the consensus was precisely the same; don't bother. The ATE calipers are far more than adequate for the Lux's. As has been said, the 2v 928's were much bigger, heavier and more powerful cars and Porsche deemed the ATE parts to be sufficient for them. (And last time I drove one I couldn't disagree!) If you are feeling that your brakes are lacking in performance then refurbish them (new pads and disks and fluid, make sure the piston is moving as it should and the caliper slides freely) and I suspect that feeling will go away.
As always, there are owners who want to do 'more' to their cars and get pleasure out of doing so. Nowt wrong with that, but don't be deceived into thinking that it is necessary to fir Brembo parts to make your car stop as it should! [
]Oli.
An interesting discussion - I've got a set of M030 (medium black) calipers tucked away in my loft as a future upgrade for my track car which is currently on standard ATE calipers (albeit with yellowstuff pads and ATE blue racing fluid) - however, the brakes at Bedford last week were fantastic - great bite yet progressive - so I may keep things simple and leave it as it is!
Although I agree that the 4 pots look a lot better!
Mick
Although I agree that the 4 pots look a lot better!
Mick
Ex Skyline
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Just had all my brakes sorted at JMG. Cost.....a bomb!! Stopping power.....totally bl00dy amazing!! [8D][]
]Two things:
1. Do it sooner rather than later, as it's a much easier (and cheaper) job before the corrosion gets fully set in.
2. It's not hard to do DIY - probably an afternoon's job if you are organised, and you don't need any particular tools or parts. There are threads on here about it if you need guidance but it's as easy as it looks.
Oli.
1. Do it sooner rather than later, as it's a much easier (and cheaper) job before the corrosion gets fully set in.
2. It's not hard to do DIY - probably an afternoon's job if you are organised, and you don't need any particular tools or parts. There are threads on here about it if you need guidance but it's as easy as it looks.
Oli.
Yes I went blue as I've got a bit of a theme going on since fitting the Bilstein B6's.
Sending them away was not cheap, but to be honest I chickened out of doing it myself when I couldn't get the plates off (I'd lined up a local guy to paint the calipers for me). I've been there before with broken bolts and didn't fancy the hassle of completely dismantling the caliper to drill out the stub.
You can get seals and pistons from Frentech at very decent prices, so if you are more brave than me, or don't have stuck plate bolts then it's not too bad of a job. Strangely my rear calipers had torx bolts which came out no bother, but the fronts were allen head and rounded off instantly. Now all torx fitted.
Sending them away was not cheap, but to be honest I chickened out of doing it myself when I couldn't get the plates off (I'd lined up a local guy to paint the calipers for me). I've been there before with broken bolts and didn't fancy the hassle of completely dismantling the caliper to drill out the stub.
You can get seals and pistons from Frentech at very decent prices, so if you are more brave than me, or don't have stuck plate bolts then it's not too bad of a job. Strangely my rear calipers had torx bolts which came out no bother, but the fronts were allen head and rounded off instantly. Now all torx fitted.
924Srr27l
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dlknight said:@PhilKent - yes bit of a lengthy one that [
As Phil found Calipers really can be & are a very time consuming job to strip them down and get out the plates and even the Bolts can shear etc...
I've done 2 pairs recently and they really were a pig to do, lots of Heat (LPG Torch) and swearing was the way!
Rather than Paint them, I wanted / needed better Heat dissipation for a Race car application so I had a very thin (Less than 0.1 mm) etch plating (Silver anodised)
R
vitesse
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[h2]Standard method is to MIG weld M10 nuts onto the bolts ,heat helps to "crack the threads (which have threadlock on them),apply plenty of GT85 or whatever you have & then I found they unscrewed without snapping,etc.Used SS buttonheads with threadlock to lock & act as isolation-this was on 964 calipers.[/h2]
Waylander
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That’s what I do, mig a M6 (13mm) nut on the top, 10 mins to mig 8 nuts, 10 mins to get the bolts out, does not matter much what you replace them with, stainless, M12 high tensile or whatever, as the casings are alloy the dissimilar metals problem will still happen,
I don’t use Torx bolts as most folks have cheap Torx tools, and they strip quicker than Allen heads,
I buy the Boxster sets of seals from eBay, axle set is £24, some bits you don’t use
I used to buy all my parts from Mode Performance, they appear to be a victim of the pandemic and no longer trading
i can rebuild the callipers but I don’t paint them, I don’t have the facilities
I don’t use Torx bolts as most folks have cheap Torx tools, and they strip quicker than Allen heads,
I buy the Boxster sets of seals from eBay, axle set is £24, some bits you don’t use
I used to buy all my parts from Mode Performance, they appear to be a victim of the pandemic and no longer trading
i can rebuild the callipers but I don’t paint them, I don’t have the facilities
PSH
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i should ask my son how he did mine a few months back, that was the first time that the bolts had been removed during my ownership and perhaps the first time ever, that's 34 years of grim and steel on alloy corrosion.
Mind you he has a knack for making things look easy....
Proof that he did do the plates, he supplied photo's for all 4 calibres... here's one with the bolts removed.
and another with the plate itself also removed
Pete
Mind you he has a knack for making things look easy....
Proof that he did do the plates, he supplied photo's for all 4 calibres... here's one with the bolts removed.
and another with the plate itself also removed
Pete
924Srr27l
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quote=PSH]
i should ask my son how he did mine a few months back, that was the first time that the bolts had been removed during my ownership and perhaps the first time ever, that's 34 years of grim and steel on alloy corrosion.
Pete
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They don't look too corroded! is your car the early offset up 1986.5 with the smaller Front caliper piston sizes (36 & 38mm) as opposed to the later (36 & 40mm) ?
R
i should ask my son how he did mine a few months back, that was the first time that the bolts had been removed during my ownership and perhaps the first time ever, that's 34 years of grim and steel on alloy corrosion.
Pete
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They don't look too corroded! is your car the early offset up 1986.5 with the smaller Front caliper piston sizes (36 & 38mm) as opposed to the later (36 & 40mm) ?
R
Wow Pete, he got the bolts out with the calipers still on the car. That's a feet in itself I recon. Access is a real pain.
As you know our cars are the same age and possibly the first time the plates have been off since new as well (I've owned it for over 16 years now). Strangely the rears (which are the original calipers) were no bother, but the fronts (which are no longer the original calipers, but the larger late model) where the real pain.
As you know our cars are the same age and possibly the first time the plates have been off since new as well (I've owned it for over 16 years now). Strangely the rears (which are the original calipers) were no bother, but the fronts (which are no longer the original calipers, but the larger late model) where the real pain.
924Srr27l
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PSH said:
Ok, then Yes I hadn't researched deep enough and bought some early 944 Turbo front calipers to then only learn they had a smaller
2nd piston (38mm) compared to the later Turbo all S2's and 968#s @ (40mm)
This affects my bias and the power so I've had to source the bigger versions, so will restore and sell these early ones on...
R
PSH
PCGB Member
Well Phil, when you think about it, it's not a bad idea as you then have plenty of leverage. Looking at his photo's there seems to be plenty of access, especially with his large, no massive range of snapon tools. I'm not even sure if he used any heat?....I'll try to remember to ask him next time I see him.
Pete
Pete
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