can someone explain why?
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DivineE
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It must be silly season I've been comtemplating selling my 996 and getting an old shape mini with a Z cars chassis and Vtec turbo lump. I've a weakness for sleepers and crazy conversions, I think 400hp in a standard looking mini would be in my top three with an E36 m3 turbo powered E30 (complete with tissue box on prcel shelf) and a mk2 Golf R32 turbo conversion (which I very very nearly did, had both the donor cars sorted out to do it at one point).
You've made me chuckle!!
When I was about 18 I sold petrol on saturday mornings at a fuel station/garage. I took my really rusty Sunbeam Alpine Series3 for its MOT and cos the tester knew me he took me aside and said 'its never going to pass in a month of sunday's unless you get the rear spring hangers welded up and the brakes done'.
If I write you a pass certificate will you promise to get it done?
oh yes no prob I said!!
The glory days of motoring in the early 70's!!
Northern924
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The 2 cars I always wanted as a kid were a 944 or an Escort 1600i Mk3, mainly because I walked past both of them on the way to scholl every morning (mk3 at the local fire station the other all shiny and new outside the local OPC)
I've now owned 3 924s and a 944, and for the last 10 years I've never had the money for a 1600i!
Escorts fall apart much easier than a Porsche, so I agree its all down to rarity now, just look on ebay and see how many 944s there are for sale, then do a search for an RS.
I've now owned 3 924s and a 944, and for the last 10 years I've never had the money for a 1600i!
Escorts fall apart much easier than a Porsche, so I agree its all down to rarity now, just look on ebay and see how many 944s there are for sale, then do a search for an RS.
djaychela
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Simple enough really, as said above, the RS is a fairly rare and sought after car, not only by the road/concours brigade but also because they are a staple item in british rallying circles, and given their propensity for rust allied to having been driven to destruction (both road and rally cars), and the fact that some panels are like hen's teeth and hideously expensive (such as inner wings) means they are expensive. They may not be as 'good' as the 944, but that doesn't equate to price - after all one of the reasons I'm here is because I bought my 944 for a mere £770 when I was looking for a bit of cheap fun - I've spent more on a diff for my Skoda.
Bear in mind although you may think that RS2000s are expensive, bear in mind you can pay £70k+ for a full-spec new build rally Mk2, sometimes a lot more, and that many 'clubman' spec cars are £15k or more...
Bear in mind although you may think that RS2000s are expensive, bear in mind you can pay £70k+ for a full-spec new build rally Mk2, sometimes a lot more, and that many 'clubman' spec cars are £15k or more...
Nice bike Peanut!
Had a B25 Starfire myself (then a Tiger 100, Suzuki GS 750, Ducati 860GTS, Yamaha XS750 ending up on a Moto Guzzi Le Mans Mk II). T'was a heap! Had a knackered auto advance/retard unit that didn't. So I could jam it retarded so I could start the beast or jam it advanced so I could go over 50 mph! But I love thinking about it now.
We're funny in this country. The 911 is SO revered that anything else is considered somehow inferior. Having owned both a 3.2 Carrera and now an S2 I can make my own comparison. No doubt about it, the 3.2 stirred the blood and was chock full of that ole X-Factor of character or charisma. The 944 S2 is a much more competent and useable car and the fun factor is at least as high. I expected it to be bland but its not and in comparison to the 911 it is an absolute bargain. And I'm really enjoying my ownership which is 100% hobby. Would I want another 3.2 Carrera? Nope, I don't think so. Would I add another 944 to my stable?.....You know, I think I would!
Had a B25 Starfire myself (then a Tiger 100, Suzuki GS 750, Ducati 860GTS, Yamaha XS750 ending up on a Moto Guzzi Le Mans Mk II). T'was a heap! Had a knackered auto advance/retard unit that didn't. So I could jam it retarded so I could start the beast or jam it advanced so I could go over 50 mph! But I love thinking about it now.
We're funny in this country. The 911 is SO revered that anything else is considered somehow inferior. Having owned both a 3.2 Carrera and now an S2 I can make my own comparison. No doubt about it, the 3.2 stirred the blood and was chock full of that ole X-Factor of character or charisma. The 944 S2 is a much more competent and useable car and the fun factor is at least as high. I expected it to be bland but its not and in comparison to the 911 it is an absolute bargain. And I'm really enjoying my ownership which is 100% hobby. Would I want another 3.2 Carrera? Nope, I don't think so. Would I add another 944 to my stable?.....You know, I think I would!
djaychela
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RS1600i are becoming worth decent money; they were never peanuts but they have become more rare because a lot of people used the unique parts from their front suspension to improve various other escorts, plus tin worm has taken a lot of them.
Anything will be worth money when it becomes rare if it's mint!
Anything will be worth money when it becomes rare if it's mint!
diabloam
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Great read this post, I thrashed and scrapped several 2door Mk2 escorts in my younger years and oh how I wish I just stuck them all in a barn somewhere, they are rot boxes totally and were not in the same league as a 944 when new never mind when old. But now even a rotten 2door mk2 shell fetches silly money. They are either bought by idiots who will spend crazy money on them restoring them (have you seen the prices genuine panles can go for now also) or the good guys use them for rallying. Also remember pulling out of buying an integrale evo2 for cheap years back (anybody seen the prices of good ones of these lately - crazy) and regretted it, defo missed the boat a few times in terms of keeping future classics and selling them when they have bottomed out. Same with pug 205gtis, had few of them (think prices on these have started climbing now also). Bet everybody regrets not holding on to car after selling it at wrong time, lol.
On the subject of MOTs, I've being going to same place for over ten years now and guy still says from time to time I'll give you a pass but sort such and such when you get a chance. What happens then (obviously depending on what it is) is I am fixing whatever he mentioned a week before I go down for the following years MOT, lol, so I dont fall out with him, lol. Great post guys, loadsa good points.
Another question, for a change I am going to hang onto my 86 turbo and hopefully this time I might miss the bottoming out of values and actually have a car that is going to rise in value. Is the 944 going to be future classsic and will values rise accordingly, hoping so as mine is an early turbo which is now in great shape and still sub 100k miles. Or are they just going to leve and stay put? These things are genuinelly hard to predict, whats the consensus?
On the subject of MOTs, I've being going to same place for over ten years now and guy still says from time to time I'll give you a pass but sort such and such when you get a chance. What happens then (obviously depending on what it is) is I am fixing whatever he mentioned a week before I go down for the following years MOT, lol, so I dont fall out with him, lol. Great post guys, loadsa good points.
Another question, for a change I am going to hang onto my 86 turbo and hopefully this time I might miss the bottoming out of values and actually have a car that is going to rise in value. Is the 944 going to be future classsic and will values rise accordingly, hoping so as mine is an early turbo which is now in great shape and still sub 100k miles. Or are they just going to leve and stay put? These things are genuinelly hard to predict, whats the consensus?
deafasapost
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aah, nostalgia. talking about the cooking fords, many a moon ago now i had a mk1 fiesta xr2, in black and loved it. go kart handling and fast enough back then. i still hanker over one tbh, and looking at prices for a minter, they are very affordable. compared to a series 1 escort rs turbo (which i'd love) they are easier to find. trouble is all the scallies and barries back in the 80's bought 'em, drove 'em like they stole it and didnt look after them properly. hence a standard series 1 rs tubby goes for stoopid money. still, a great car in my book.
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