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Cayman Register Stuttgart Museum Trip July 2013

Hi Kevan, I've been following your plans for the trip to Stuttgart in July with interest and would have loved to have gone as part of your Cayman delegation – my S was one of the early ones built at Zuffenhausen when production shifted from Finland in 2011 – so she’s been looking forward to a trip home! Sadly the dates don’t work for me. However, I got a lucky break as wife and son & heir are off to visit a relative for a few days in late May - so I wasted no time in emailing the factory (who replied within about 30 mins – I was impressed) and booking some accommodation! Will be spending a couple of days in Stuttgart (Factory, museum and also the Mercedes museum), then up the 'the ring' where they have a track-side hotel (by the Grand Prix section) where I will stay overnight. Then home the next day dropping in at Spa on the way. Pure petrol head heaven! I am taking the 'southern' route to Stuttgart via Reims (some tolls but is any easy, and in past experience, quiet road - to Reims at least) then coming back on the northern route through Belgium; distance time/wise according to my sat nav it’s virtually the same for either route, but quite nice to do a circular tour (works out at a whisker under 1000 miles plus the UK end of the journey). Anyway, I also have booked in to the Golden Leaf for a couple of nights – it seems fine for a short stay (the attraction of the underground car parking was key) and is only 800m from the factory/museum. Whilst I know you will have to have everything all booked up by time I get back - I'd be happy to pass on any up to date info I manage assimilate following my trip if it might of any help before you head off there in July. Cheers Mark
 
Thanks Mark, A few years ago my late wife and I did much the same route in the opposite direction including a one week stay in Alsace but it was the old museum and since they announced plans to build the new one I have wanted to take a visit. Anything you can glean regarding anything around Museum, factory and hotel will be appreciated, this time for me it seems better to go Hull - Rotterdam overnight rather than to stop over enroute going around the M25!! So far the majority are from the northern half of the England and so I think it will work out to be a popular choice, we'll see as other things may effect peoples choices.
 
Hi Kevan, I've just managed to get some 'ducks in a row' so may be able to join the trip. I'd be grateful if you could post whether you have places left and the itinerary, in particular whether there is a factory visit. Thanks.
 
Hi John, Several have dropped out but I am about to do a circulation to those who I believe are still interested, I have 8 places booked on the factory tour on the afternoon of the 8th July and so I'm quite sure we should be able to accommodate most or even all who are interested. Can you please send me your email address so that I can email you a registration form to join the Cayman Register, I will then do the email circulation and see how many we have still in the party
 
Is there anyone else thinking of joining the trip to Stuttgart, at present we have only 5 cars and I originally wanted to make the trip 6 to 10 cars, several have dropped out due to personal choices such as buying a new Cayman and other unknown reasons and so we can take more with us, however, I only have 8 places booked on the Factory tour although it may be possible to get more when we're there. Several are to travel Hull to Rotterdam on the 7th July to arrive in Zuffenhausen on the evening of the 8th and the current thought is to leave Zuffenhausen on the 10th unless we decide to stay longer, routes there and back may well differ but we will socialise in Zuffenhausen while some will do so on the ferry and drive down in a group. Until everything is confirmed of course it is difficult to say the exact itinerary and until I know where people are travelling from how many days they wish to spend on the trip etc I don't know what will happen for the return be it beers in Belgium or Autobahn to the north.
 
We are now ready to book the hotels etc and here is the planned itinerary there is still the option to join the trip but depending on which part of the UK you are in, you may wish to use the Dover/Calais Crossing or even Portsmouth Le Havre but those are your choices. Hotels at other stop overs have not yet been looked into but I've never known problems in finding a hotel when touring. The itinerary:- Sunday 7th July afternoon set off. Meet on route to Hull ( 100 mls ) and take overnight P&O ferry to Rotterdam Arrive in Rotterdam Monday morning and drive to the Hotel in Zuffenhausen to stay two nights ( 650Km ) 400mls Tuesday morning, visit Porsche Museum Tuesday afternoon, visit Porsche Factory, Evening photo line up. Tuesday stay overnight Wednesday Morning, leave Stuttgart and drive to Mulhouse ( mostly derestricted Autobahn until crossing to France ( 250Km ) 155mls Visit the Cite de la Automobile Museum ( largest Bugatti collection in the world ) cross back into Germany drive to Strassbourg ( 150Km ) 93 mls and stay overnight Thursday Morning drive to Stuttgart and visit the Mercedes Museum ( 170Km ) 106mls, following which drive to Rotterdam ( 650Km ) 400mls to catch the overnight ferry to Hull Friday Morning drive home. As I say still time to join[:D][:D][:D]
 
We're currently making our bookings for the trip and I do have some spare places on the factory tour, there is still time for someone to join us and to make their bookings. Since we are booking individually anyone who prefers to make their own way by another route especially if they live in the south is welcome to do so since they would benefit from the Dover crossing. See the itinerary above.
 
Hi Kevan and everyone else headed off to Zuffenhausen next month. As promised a report from my own trip that I undertook over the past week and some up to date info that I hope will be of some use to you all, but do feel free to ask if there is anything I haven't mentioned. Unlike most of you who I think will be travelling from the northern half of the UK I set out on Sunday 26/5 taking a route from the Eurotunnel toward Reims with an overnight stop just south of Luxembourg (Motor sport themed hotel in Thionville). The next day (Monday) I had intended to travel to Stuttgart via the Cite de la Automobile Museum in Mulhouse but other events took over so I can't give you any info on that aspect (for which I blame West Sussex County Council and their passion for the liberal application of loose chippings everywhere at present - some of which I had the 'pleasure' of encountering on the way down to Folkestone[:mad:]). A dreadful noise started to occur from one of the rear brakes (when cornering at slow speed) due, it seems, a trapped stone chipping - problem thankfully seemed to clear itself after a quick trip to Porsche Luxembourg (and very helpful they were too) but only after I decided to play it safe and head straight to Stuttgart instead. Golden Leaf Hotel: Arrived (with no further issues) on Monday for a two night stay. Nice welcome to Zuffenhausen as I arrived in town via the main factory gates (Werk 1) to the tune of three 911's (2 Cabs and a turbo) as they emerged at some speed - very nice! Odd thing was although there are plenty of Porsches circulating at all times of the day near to the factory, I hardly saw any others when driving many miles (sorry kilometres) around other parts of Germany over a period of 4 days. For a couple of nights stay the GLeaf is a perfect choice, not only because of its proximity to the factory/museum (no more than a ten minute walk away - just turn right out of the hotel and keep going) and although it is perhaps a little dated, its clean and quite pleasant and despite some internet reviews I have read, the staff were pleasant and helpful. The hotel is located right on the fringes of industrial and quiet residential areas, and although there is some (I would say quite safe) on street parking the hotel car park is nevertheless a welcome facility. The car park is on two levels one at street level and one accessed down a ramp - both have security shutters. I used the lower one which was never more than half full (although the first few spaces on the left seem to be reserved for a local firm). When you check in its probably best to park outside first then go and park as reception can then instruct you regarding access to the parking. Also I get the impression that its best not to arrive after 11pm to check in as there won't be anyone about... There is a handily located branch of Lidl (8am to 8pm) just a short distance from the hotel (en-route to the museum) should you need any supplies. I didn't try the hotel restaurant in the evening so can't comment on the quality but breakfast was okay, as was my room (with views across to the factory and museum). Porsche Museum; - Managed to get in for half price at €4 due to the fact that they hadn't fully set up the 911 50th anniversary exhibition (due to open on 4 June), however as it turned out there were no empty or cordoned off areas and it appeared that everything was 99% set up and on display (seemingly just a few cars missing their info boards). Many highlights such as 'Porsche No.1' (mid engined of course...) and of course a 987! Also an (amusing) example of Porsche's obsession with weight saving displayed in the form of a pair of light weight racing shoes tailor made for Vic Elford (no doubt Mr Elford wasn't permitted to have breakfast on race day's either...).![:D] The open style display of all the cars was nice - not a barrier in sight. Factory Tour; We met our factory tour guide by a small desk situated just inside the entrance to the museum (the meeting point is clearly labelled) at about 10 minutes before the timed start of the factory tour. Following a role call you will be asked to hand over your mobile phone and any cameras which your tour guide will lock away for the duration of the factory visit. Tours are split into German and English language groups. Our guide was excellent and extremely knowledgeable and even took the trouble to extend the length of the tour rather than rush to finish it after the scheduled two hours - no complaints there. First stop was the engine assembly line followed by the upholstery shop, then the main assembly line starting at the point the body shells arrive from the paint shop (although the section where body and running gear are married together was out of bounds that day due to construction work - not sure how long term that is). It was a truly fascinating experience and worth the trip on its own. Mercedes museum; definitely not to be missed. It is about 8km from the GLeaf, although it is a slow drive in the Stuttgart traffic and with hindsight I should have considered using the tram network (there is tram station right next to the museum on Porsche platz which might get you there). The Mercedes museum has quite a different feel to it (also in an equally stunning building). You are initially guided to the top of the building and follow Mercedes from its inception by working your way back down to the ground floor to the present day - and beyond. Of course it's worth noting that the fastest car in the Mercedes museum was designed by one Ferdinand Porsche. Other than slow traffic in Stuttgart the whole driving experience in Germany was a very pleasant one - some great roads (particularly some good twisty mountain roads) and generally very light traffic . Over the following couple of days I travelled home via Hockeinhiem (museum and race circuit tour), the Nurburgring (stayed overnight at the Dorint Hotel which is right on the side of the track & a very nice hotel), and then onward to the circuit at Spa. In all I covered 1200 miles on mainland Europe over 5 days - a little disappointed to miss out on seeing the Bugatti collection in Mulhouse but nevertheless pleased that everything else went to plan! One final thought - if you don't already have one it's worth looking out for a copy of 'Cayman - Thrill of the Chase' by Jutta Deiss which was on sale in the Porsche Museum shop at only €3.90 (in both English and German versions) I first saw this book on Amazon and Ebay a long time ago but it always seemed to command a silly price of at least £100 (indeed Amazon still had it listed from £128 upwards only a couple of days ago) so for around £3 it's a bit of a bargain! Wishing you all a safe and fun trip in July. Mark
 
Hi Mark and thanks for the review some useful tips in that too. Hope that we get you to join us on an event at sometime.
 
Well we all returned home following our trip to the museum, we also did the factory tour and since the museum display was celebrating the 50th year of the 911 I managed to get us a look in the workshops where they prepare the cars for the museum. It took some persistance on my part but eventually I managed to prod them enough to get the very nice lady boss to come and speak with me, the problem disappeared. A very nice lady. There were some famous cars in there, Carrera GT No 0001, 550 Panamericana Race Car, the 993 which Porsche presented to the Police and which was in daily use by them for ten years now restored to as new condition, a 914/6 which needed a lot of work and a 550 Spyder. Oh also on a shelf was the Boxster Prototype. Next day as one car was heading home due to work commitments just three car loads went to the Mercedes museum and decided to miss out Mulhouse for an easier drive home, with a stopover in Cologne maybe we'll see the French National on another trip. As for the journey, two cars caught the Hull Rotterdam ferry and mine was the one that some idiot bumped luggage over the left rear wing! Then the drive to Zuffenhausen we topped up tanks in Holland but only with 95 octane Super so mine wasn't singing as sweetly as I got up around 220kph up a hill in Germany, however, as I rolled into Zuffenhausen on fumes and 16km range went to--- I pulled in at the local Shell station and filled up with V Power 100racing which transformed things, enroute back through Germany a few days later and having topped up again, I found the engine running quieter at speed and went over the 150 easily several times. Well it's one way of keeping a VW from trying to rub it's nose on your rear bumper! I also found that cruising at 125mph on the left dial stopped them doing it too. Autobahn stops in Germany are the pits! Not that they fill your tank quickly etc more that you only want to stop if you have to! However, we found that our meet up and divide points in Holland were superb in both directions. They are close to a village called Opheusenden a little more than an hour's drive from Rotterdam on the A15. On of our cars claimed the trip record of 165mph on the Autobahn but I'd like to know where he found an empty stretch of three lane? My high speed runs were all on two lane sections, derestricted of course with very little traffic. All of the Caymans were Gen 1 two being 3.4S's and two 2.7's which actually weren't that slow.
 

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