early porsche track day

[jamescharnley]

you can put my name down for another early trackday, the last one was superb fun.

Personally I think the GP is too OTT for most of the 'non track prep'd' early porsches / 911's .

I think the focus on the next trackday is to get the numbers up, which I think shouldn't be a problem with all the enthusiasm from the last one.

 

[IanHighfield]

Definitely up for these, but have a query around the price and number of cars.

How many cars are there on a 'normal PCGB Track Day', as these are priced circa £225 - £250 ?

Likewise, Gold Track (60 cars I believe) at Donington was £175 in November

PCGB / Gold Track etc. must therefore get circuits for less than £15K - or is mt Maths wrong ?

Thanks for doing all the digging around though Paul.

If numbers are a problem, definitely go for DDK and what about the Impact Bumpers Forum guys.

Ian

 

[paul howells]

The nov and on dates with tracks can be at big discounts,just to get some cars in.
I think we should get ddk involved also,as a lot were at the last one,and of course they are all early petrol heads.
Numbers on club days vary from 30 cars up to 100 on the gp.
I will put a post on tonight on ddk,it does not need to be limited to just early 911,all are welcome including impact cars.Priority can be given to the early cars to say 6 weeks before the event.

 

[38F3E1]

I would also like this to be an 'open invite' day to all early owners whether member or not. To me the only criteria should be any pre-74 porsche.

If more numbers are required then how about inviting early impacts up to and including say SC model.

Ian.

 

[early 911]

pre-74 porsche

. . . . + 912E's and later 914's []

Don't think there were any 914's on the last one was there?

Phil

 

[38F3E1]

Yes I agree. Perhaps we should just make it a pre 1980 event?

 

[jamescharnley]

IMHO, it should be kept for the pre'74 911's, all 912's, all 914's & all 356's & all other pre'74 Porsches.

IF the numbers need making up then others shoul dbe considered.

The great thing about this event is it encourages drivers / owners & cars out onto the track that would not normally venture out at a trackday.

And not wanting to upset anyone, but opening it to pre '80 would have to include front engined water pumpers which doesn't really fit with the ethos of an early porsche (aircooled) trackday

 

[Mike Moore]

I agree with James, as I see it the whole point is to create an annual 'Early Car' track day, last years being the
inaugural one. We all agree that an Early Car means pre 74, so lets just stick to that and stop here and now any
talk of stretching it to include this or that.

If we can raise over 40 cars last year, and lets face it most were DDK car's, I'm sure we can build on that,
and therefore the costs will work themselves out, the less cars we have the more expensive it is,
the more cars, the cheaper it becomes.

 

[silver s]

PUT ME DONE FOR ANOTHER EARLY TRACK DAY ALSO I THINK JAMES ETC IS RIGHT EARLY CARS FIRST AND SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE LIKE BEFORE PUTTING OUT TO OTHERS

 

[38F3E1]

It does seem kind of random whatever date you choose. Pre-74 would technically exclude say a 1974 Carrera 2.7 which after all has a lot in common with a 73 2.7RS. Or what about a 3.0RS etc being excluded.

And where does it leave backdated cars I wonder?

Ian.

 

[jamescharnley]

Ian, Mike is talking sense here :

ORIGINAL: Mike Moore

I agree with James, as I see it the whole point is to create an annual 'Early Car' track day, last years being the
inaugural one. We all agree that an Early Car means pre 74, so lets just stick to that and stop here and now any
talk of stretching it to include this or that.

If we can raise over 40 cars last year, and lets face it most were DDK car's, I'm sure we can build on that,
and therefore the costs will work themselves out, the less cars we have the more expensive it is,
the more cars, the cheaper it becomes.

The work originally put into setting up the 1st ( & successful) early trackday was based on the above. Why change it ?

The same principle is used at Castle Heddingham for the pre'74 porsche event.

 

[paul howells]

sounds like if we cap it at the 74 model year which would include the impact bumper carrera and the 74/75rsr etc
I have 2 friends who will be i am sure at the track day with there 2 x 74/75 rsr ,914 should deff be allowed in,there was one 914 last year,less see if we can get a few more this year.
I dont think we can put anything on ddk etc until we know the date is confirmed,and let Steve Kevlin get this all sorted for us and hopefully at a good rate.
We should not have any trouble filling the day with 40 cars i hope.One problem for numbers may be the classic lemans is is not that long before,11 to 13th july.
The good weather is already booked for the event in anycase.

 

[Nick Moss]

The good weather is already booked for the event in anycase.

Wow, count me in then!

 

[38F3E1]

ORIGINAL: paul howells

sounds like if we cap it at the 74 model year which would include the impact bumper carrera and the 74/75rsr etc
I have 2 friends who will be i am sure at the track day with there 2 x 74/75 rsr ,914 should deff be allowed in,there was one 914 last year,less see if we can get a few more this year.

Paul. That seems very sensible.

ORIGINAL: jamescharnley
Ian, Mike is talking sense here :

Mike/James. I agree 73/74 is the preferred cut off for 911s. Last year it was achievable because of the preferential rate PCGB were given by Silverstone. I also think once this event has been going a few years there will be no problem getting the numbers required even at commercial rates but this year could be a challenge. My thoughts were based around "what if we have to pay commercial rates at say £15000" which would mean about 75 cars required at £199 each. At the moment I don't think we would get 75 early cars and therefore may have to be practical and open up the event to a wider audience this year. In which case including early impact bumper 911s may be the best solution. Given the choice between 40 cars at £375 or 75 at £199 I would probably support the £199 option and include early impact 911s (although I would attend either). What are your views on the cost versus numbers balance this year?

Ian.

 

[2.4Silver]

How about Donington Park evening session? Might be more reasonable than day rate. I guess noise may be more of a factor though?

 

[912UK]

Well reading that A big thanks to Phil Tayson for keeping our costs resonable. It was £175 for the day yes it was shorter day but to be honest I think we all liked it. These are older cars as such we should note that with our track usage. The £175 for the day was affordable. Also linking it on the back of the Silverstone event was to be far......made for a perfect weekend.

Lets hope another arangement could be done the same again..

 

[IanHighfield]

I read over on DDK that that is confirmed for the Monday after Silverstone Clasic - can Paul / Ian confirm for me ?

I am a definite and have the day booked off work already - do I book through Steve Kevlin as last time ?

Ian

 

[paul howells]

Its news to me,last time i spoke to steve about it,he was waiting on silverstone to confirm the day first.
I will find out next week.

 

[38F3E1]

Hi Paul.

I asked recently out of curiosity at the end of a conversation with one of the club officials who I assumed would know. I was told the day was confirmed for the Monday. If I was being premature then I apologise [].

Ian.

 

[paul howells]

Hi Ian
no problem,but there is still no confirmation as of today.
I would say its worth booking the day off ready,because i dont see any real reason why it should not happen,may be cost if we can not get it at a reasonable rate.
Steve will let me know asap,and we will get it out there to fill up.