First time Zymolist - Help !

[glyn waxmaster]

Due to the high content of carnuaba in Zymol the water to start with should run off, i have often noticed that people are using far too much product which will give you the results you mention.
My suggestion would be to use smaller amounts but after you feel you have finished the car go back to it about an hour later and give it another final dust over with a microfibre towel as the wax by now will be even harder.

 

[Gordon Attar]

ORIGINAL: glyn waxmaster

Due to the high content of carnuaba in Zymol the water to start with should run off, i have often noticed that people are using far too much product which will give you the results you mention.
Glyn mine was put on by a professional, it does run off but not of the gentle curves see picture. Its not a complaint because the finish is fantastic.
My note was really about explaining the apparent stickier nature of Zymol(when felt)

My suggestion would be to use smaller amounts but after you feel you have finished the car go back to it about an hour later and give it another final dust over with a microfibre towel as the wax by now will be even harder.

 

[Guest]

Gordon,


not a very big picture

 

[topturn]

Took this snap last year in the Derbyshire Dales after doing the Zymol thing to my Boxster - Love the sky reflected on the paint work.

 

[Guest]

Here's my baby all zymolled and gleaming........a real sense of achievement after 4 hours work.

 

[Black80XSA]

You just gotta love Zymol - the old......

 

[Black80XSA]

and the new....

 

[Black80XSA]

Ok then, just one more []..

 

[sawood12]

ORIGINAL: glyn waxmaster

Hi Dev, i would suggest that the klay oxidisation stage is the most important but if you maintain the car correctly in the future it should only need to be done once in the cars life.
As it removes all forms of fallout, overspray and roadfilm the dirt has less to stick to so you will notice when the car is done it is smoother than ever before.
A simple test is to get a cellophane wrapper from a packet of cigarettes and put 2 fingers inside and gently wipe over the surface of your paint, this will magnify the dirt on your paint.
remember to do this gently and only after the cars panel has been washed as not to scratch it.

I have just invested in some Zymol Titanium and am wondering how to go about my first application so I am reading this with interest. I have been confused in previous posts about the use of Klay as the Zymol website specifically states that it is for emergency use only as is suggested by the quote above. Alot of people seem to suggest that Klay is a usual step in the process. My question is I have just very recenly had a full all-over machine polsh and my paintwork appears as smooth and blemish free as I can imagine it could get (apart from the usual stone chips), therefore do I need to bother with the Klay application??

 

[YvesD]

This stuff better be good. I have now placed three separate orders with Vertar for my Zymol goodies. First the klay, lube etc, then the starter kit, then some extra towels, wipes etc. About £250 to date I think and now my holiday has finished and no time to wax !

Fiddlesticks.

Like you sawood12, I am dreading using the klay bar as it sounds and looks potentially aggressive on the paint work.

Yves

 

[Gordon Attar]

Yves
Dont worry if you follow the guidlines you will be fine, I would not describe it as agressive and you are likely to only be smoothing the laquer.

Regarding the klay it is like plasticine in texture ie soft and maluable when manipulated. The important things to remember are first to do it on a cooler day out of the sun that before you start wash the car well in zymol autobathe and dry of course. When using the klay use plenty of the lube so that the klay is literally gliding over the surface, if its sticking your not using enough spray keep manipulating/remoulding the klay so that you are presenting 'fresh klay' and do smallish areas ie nothing bigger than half a bonnet.

 

[Gordon Attar]

ORIGINAL: nicola turtill

Gordon,

not a very big picture

Nicola
Here's a slighter better quality one that fits the rules you need to expand maybe, but you will see the water sitting on the curved surfaces, so no one has any suggestions on a final 'hard' finish

 

[Gordon Attar]

ORIGINAL: sawood12

I have just invested in some Zymol Titanium and am wondering how to go about my first application so I am reading this with interest. I have been confused in previous posts about the use of Klay as the Zymol website specifically states that it is for emergency use only as is suggested by the quote above. Alot of people seem to suggest that Klay is a usual step in the process. My question is I have just very recenly had a full all-over machine polsh and my paintwork appears as smooth and blemish free as I can imagine it could get (apart from the usual stone chips), therefore do I need to bother with the Klay application??

If you are happy with the finish and have no swirls in your paint work then a good going over with HD cleanse will suffice, but do the check with sellophane.

 

[YvesD]

Thanks for that.

Its just too hot and sunny at the minute and my garage seems to be very dusty despite regular sweeping so ideally I want to do the job out side.

Regarding the klay, I will use it on an inconspicuous surface first ( under the front valance ) so as to get the feel for it and not be too paranoid in application.

Quite looking forward to it now, just need some time.

Yves

 

[sawood12]

Thanks Gordon, i'll give it a go. Just one more query - the instrctions tell you to apply the wax on a smallish area at a time, but how do you apply the HD Cleanse? Do you HD Cleanse say a foot square area, then wax and buff, then HD Cleanse another area and wax, or do you HD Cleanse the whole car then apply the wax in small areas at a time??

 

[Guest]

Do the HD Cleansing first. Treat 2-3 sq ft at a time, or say a door panel, front wing, half front lid. Then the Zymol wax - again one panel at a time.I deally repeat the wax stage once or twice.

BTW, clay bar is an essential part of a decent cleaning/waxing process IMO. Paint picks up plenty of 'bits', especially front, lower side panels and rear, even in quite a short time.

 

[Gordon Attar]

The first time I did only cost £150 as it was November, summer rate seems to be £300!!

 

[YvesD]

Just started the process this evening with a thorough Autobathe wash ( very nice product - didnt leave the soapy stubborn deposits my Autoglym does ).

Klay bar and HD cleanse tomorrow then Glasur wax after the Moto & F1 GP's on Sunday.

I have noticed this before but having inspected the paintwork carefully tonight, I am amazed by the amount of foreign bodies embedded in the laquer coat after just 3000 miles.

Do I have to do the before and after piccies thing for the records ?

Yves

 

[YvesD]

Slowly getting there.

Klay barred this morning which was really quite easy in the end, noticed some deeply embedded particles which wouldnt come out though.

HD Cleased this afternoon and am amazed by the results, the car looks and feels fantastic and it hasnt even had the Glasur wax yet. Very impressed with these products so far, HD Cleanse smells good enough to eat.

Family complaining that they havent seen me all day so for the sake of peace waxing will have to wait until tomorrow.

Yves

 

[YvesD]

Bad light stops play.

Managed to get all the major panels Glasured this evening with just the front lower bumper and rear lower bumper to do. Doest look any shinier at this point than after the HD Cleanse but the job isnt finished yet.

The 'owners manual' suggests warming the car in the sun for 30 mins then microwipe buffing again. I will try that tomorrow eveing if the weather is nice.

This is an excellent system but not ideally suited to a family man with little children !

Yves