pauljmcnulty
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Youve seen my picture in Porschefile then? [8|]
Jeremy Clarkson -wtf
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Youve seen my picture in Porschefile then? [8|]
juliany27
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Here, just a minute.
I work at Legal Aid rates, effectively at rates set about 11 years ago and work hours which a junior hospital doctor is not permitted to work.
And I note that Porsche service staff are able to charge at an hourly rate far in excess of my hourly rate. Perhaps I should not have studied for A levels, a Law degree, formal professional qualifications and a Master's degree?
But I am committed to working for those who cannot speak for themselves and to providing the best service I can within the limitations of Government funding.
Ho hum, back to the Crown Court tomorrow morning to continue my trial ...
I work at Legal Aid rates, effectively at rates set about 11 years ago and work hours which a junior hospital doctor is not permitted to work.
And I note that Porsche service staff are able to charge at an hourly rate far in excess of my hourly rate. Perhaps I should not have studied for A levels, a Law degree, formal professional qualifications and a Master's degree?
But I am committed to working for those who cannot speak for themselves and to providing the best service I can within the limitations of Government funding.
Ho hum, back to the Crown Court tomorrow morning to continue my trial ...
Haha, I like that.ORIGINAL: juliany27
ORIGINAL: tscaptain
Last time I checked we still have a constitutional monarchy so we elect a party and they choose the leader for us - for better or worse! [] Now if you want to get rid of the Royals we can have a republic and elect a president to lead us.......[&:] Then we could be just like the US of A........[:'(]
Before we go down that path, we must look at some of the more recent incumbents of the White House.
Although the Monarchy is something of an anachronism in the 21st Century, it seems to work well.
If it ain't broke, don't mend it. Although this Government seems to think that everything needs changing for changing's sake.
Perhaps they are just pandering to the readers of newspapers.
As Jim Hacker, Minister and MP, once remarked to his Perminant Secretary and Principal Private Secretary [and which I have amended recently] :
"Jim Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers:
* The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country;
* The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country;
* The Times is read by people who actually do run the country;
* The Independent is read by those who are not sure who runs the country but whoever it is, is doing it wrong;
* The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country;
* The Financial Times is read by people who own the country;
* The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country;
* And the Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read the Sun?
Bernard Woolley: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big..."
True in the 1980's; true now. Plus ca change, plus le meme chose.
sawood12
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Know the feeling mate. 15yrs on I've only just caught up with my mates who left school at 16 for a trade in terms of annual earnings (and that isn't counting the money earned by 'cash in hand' work) while I went off and did the uni thing, but it will take me at least another 15 - 20 yrs to catch up for those years when my mates were earning good money while I was drinking my way through a student loan. However I wouldn't trade my uni days in for love nor money. A fantastic time. Uni/tertiary education provides you with so much more than an education.
juliany27
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I wonder what the local authorities have done with the money which used to go towards student grants. Put it towards larger and larger incomes for senior staff and bumping up their pensions, no doubt.
Call me cynical - but the idea that public servants are paid less than outside 'industry' in exchange for security of income and guaranteed pensions, is a far cry from reality.
Call me cynical - but the idea that public servants are paid less than outside 'industry' in exchange for security of income and guaranteed pensions, is a far cry from reality.
Neil Haughey
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What really gets my goat though is that in industry you generally have to come up with the goods or you get the big E.
Other big myth is that this massive pensions liability is somehow magically paid for now by the supposedly smaller salaries. When are ppl going to understand that this huge pensions liability is condemning future generations into paying massive taxes.
Absolutely agree. I once worked as an independent IT consultant advicer for a government department in London and the wprk ethnics there is unbelieveable. Most of the civil servants I worked with never do any real works in their life and that's why I was there (to kick some arses). They have many sick leave days in a year more than I had accummulated in over 10 years - unbeliveable. Once I decided to give some 'simple' programming tasks to a 'senior' grade civil servant, he simply hurted himself (break his elbow) and have a 2 months rest. Most of them are just hang on for en early retirement.
sawood12
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Well I read somewhere recently that the average public sector worker spends a third of their life retired! That in itself speaks volumes.
How do you think this government has driven down the unemployment rate over the past decade? Through creating an economic environment that allows private companies to thrive? I think not - they've created millions of public sector jobs to pay these people to create more bureaucracy and waste millions of taxpayers money each year. I know that people who come to work for the company I work for and carry over their public sector salaries earn significantly more than people at the same grade.
How do you think this government has driven down the unemployment rate over the past decade? Through creating an economic environment that allows private companies to thrive? I think not - they've created millions of public sector jobs to pay these people to create more bureaucracy and waste millions of taxpayers money each year. I know that people who come to work for the company I work for and carry over their public sector salaries earn significantly more than people at the same grade.
juliany27
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ORIGINAL: charles.y
And they spent less their half working life actually doing any real works (even before retiring) [8|][8|][8|] and half working life on skiving and watching porn movies/day dreaming?[
I feel sure that you are maligning many public servants, but I am worried that they are given much power, but generally do not have to accept responsibility for their advice or actions. The responsibility is left to elected politicians, in the great part - and we all know the extent to which they will accept responsibility and resign or are sacked.
IMHO, this situation is highly dangerous and should be supervised with great care. For example, huge amounts of public money are being spent on IT contracts, nearly all of which go over budget and are completed late, if at all. Civil Servants seem to be, by and large, non-experts on technical matters involving the use of the tax-payers' money. Yet who should carry the can if it all goes wrong? In private industry/practice, it is the responsibility of the directors/partners; in public service, it seems that no-one loses their job.
juliany27
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Please have a look at news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7897700.stm and worry. What on earth is GB talking about? The decision whether this prisoner is [ever] to be released does not and cannot lie with the Prime Minister.
It is a judicial or quasi-judicial decision and the leader of the executive should not comment upon matters outside his remit.
It appears that the concept of the separation of powers is unknown to GB.
So, Jeremy Clarkson appears to be right!!!!!!
It is a judicial or quasi-judicial decision and the leader of the executive should not comment upon matters outside his remit.
It appears that the concept of the separation of powers is unknown to GB.
So, Jeremy Clarkson appears to be right!!!!!!
juliany27
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And at about £30,000 per taxpayer, we really are running into trouble. Still, I suppose that the Bank of England can print money - rather like Zimbabwe and the Weimar Republic ... followed by rampant inflation and greater powers taken by the State.
Hang on, greater powers taken by the State, I think I have been here before and I feel a rant coming on. I had better sit down in a darkened room with a nice cup of milky coffee and a biscuit, and relax.
Hang on, greater powers taken by the State, I think I have been here before and I feel a rant coming on. I had better sit down in a darkened room with a nice cup of milky coffee and a biscuit, and relax.
Neil Haughey
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[
] You are not alone Julian, however you can cheer yourself up by thinking about how many of the nulabor politicians started out as 22nd rate lawyers, er oh I will get my coat []HAGWE all
juliany27
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Even if they were 3rd rate lawyers [I have promoted them], look at their perks. Second homes paid for by tax payers which they can sell and upon which they pay no capital gains tax. Add an income they can increase if they wish, at our expense, knighthoods, honours and peerages on [near] retirement, index linked pensions + guaranteed 'compensation' if they lose their seat.
I wonder what they could have achieved if they had been first rate lawyers; sleepless nights, working unsociable hours, taxed on virtually everything, no guaranteed incomes, pay for their own pensions, no security of income or guaranteee of any money if they are unable to work.
And I ask myself, why be first rate nowadays?
Rant over, back to televised footie whilst I cook a nice casserole.
I wonder what they could have achieved if they had been first rate lawyers; sleepless nights, working unsociable hours, taxed on virtually everything, no guaranteed incomes, pay for their own pensions, no security of income or guaranteee of any money if they are unable to work.
And I ask myself, why be first rate nowadays?
Rant over, back to televised footie whilst I cook a nice casserole.
Alex Postan
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Come on Julian, be reasonable! Politicians end up upstairs sentenced to an eternity of plucking their harps while you lucky lawyers can go downstairs and spend another eternity in adversarial debate.
A good pluck only lasts for a few tens of minutes ([8D]) but you can make an argument last forever.
A good pluck only lasts for a few tens of minutes ([8D]) but you can make an argument last forever.
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