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KW-V3 Setup for track?

Copperman05

Copperman05

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I'm going to stiffen up my coilovers a little for the Bedford track day. For those that have been there what sort of track is it? Smooth, bumpy? I believe it has a mixture of corners.

What have people run on track re compression and rebound? I know each car will probably be different but it would be interesting to know what others have found worked well.


Edd
 
If it hasn't changed to much its super smooth and the surface is great,on some bends you can really give it the beans and if you screw up you just go onto concrete,those are the bends to go mad on!
I drove my black turbo into a bend the other day fairly hard and holy understeered batman!!
Hope my track tyres sort it out a bit,its very soft suspension wise aswell!
My input would be Dont mess too much with the suspension a bit of lean can be good and gives you communication as opposed to snap and go into a Kylie ( I'm spinning around) :)
 
I hear what you say, although car is currently set up for road (2 clicks softer than kw recommendations) so not optimum for track, I may just go back to the factory settings or a tad harder and see how it goes, seems a shame not to utilise what the kw have to offer.


Edd
 
Are you planning to remove the rear shocks? That's the only way to adjust rear rebound on the KW's

In my post on your geo i gave you the settings I got from KW for tracks

Starting Point
Front Bump 1
Front Rebound 1
Rear Bump 0.5
Rear Rebound 1.5


To a maximum (for bump only - rebound unchanged)
Front Bump 0.5
Rear Bump 0.25

All turns from full hard.

There are so many variables to handling that it's hard to be definitive in isolation - geometry, tyres (and tyre pressure), arb's, driving style all have a part in this and will all affect the balance of the car. I would echo Mark's comments really - start with what you have & see how it works. Easy to tweak the bump settings on the day, but you might get the same result by dropping a couple of psi on one axle
 
ORIGINAL: edh
Are you planning to remove the rear shocks? That's the only way to adjust rear rebound on the KW's
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Yes I am, only way to do it properly. Sorry I must have missed your post on kw recommended settings, I read them as standard setting rather than track settings. Chris has suggested upping the settings for track days, hence this post. I think the ones you give are a good starting point, I wouldn't want to go any harder really. Settings from promax were a mixture of slightly more than kw recommendations (front bump and rebound) to quite a bit less (rear rebound was only 3/4 turn), car didnt feel bad on track, but was certainly compromised a little on the road. My aim is to set and leave rear rebound at 1.5 or 1.75 as set by kw and then adjust bump and front rebound (only) to suit road or track.


Edd
 
Guys,
I have a set of kws I am just away to fit to my 944 t. Dont have any instructions for setting up shocks.

I want to set them up so that they will be ok on track and road. Looking at the rear shocks, there is a snall valve adjusted on the top of the shock and an allen key on base. What changes rebound and compression and how do I set it up?
 
I have the pdfs you need. I think you can get them from the kw site.

top adjuster is rebound, bottom bump

I'm on holiday at the moment - I will email you when I get back next week.

ed
 
I would set to kw factory settings. Top of the shock adjustment is rebound, bottom is bump/compression. You need a 2mm allen key to adjust the fronts and a pin type tool to adjust the rears. It can get a bit confusing as KW in their wisdom appear to use different methods of adjustment, some are 'clicks' and others turns. Just remember its 6 clicks to every turn, but dont confuse this with the rear where the pin adjusts the small hole at 1/4 turn a sweep.

Clear as mud isnt it.

Here is what came with my KW's.


Edd

 
Hi Edd,
That link doesnt seem to work for me. Yeah doesnt seem very clear.

How do you set up the rear spring tension. I have re-indexed the rear already from when I had the Gaz shock but I dont know how best to set up the springs so that it matches rate of torsion bar. I think with gaz it was a case of dropping car on torsion bars and then spin up the spring collar til its under a bit of tension but this did not seem ideal.

Cheers
Sandy
 
It should work I have tested it, you click 'Download this file' then enter the characters.

I've not fitted these before so cant really be of great help, Chris Franklin (Center Gravity) adjusted the torsion bar to its lowest setting, as in KW instructions, so, as I believe it, the car torsion bar is mainly redundant and the coilovers are taking most of the cars weight. This should be possible if torsion bar is re-indexed.


Edd
 

ORIGINAL: Copperman05

I'm going to stiffen up my coilovers a little for the Bedford track day. For those that have been there what sort of track is it? Smooth, bumpy? I believe it has a mixture of corners.

What have people run on track re compression and rebound? I know each car will probably be different but it would be interesting to know what others have found worked well.


Edd
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Try stiffening up the fcuking pilot...!! [:D]!! Sorry Edd, iv'e just won a contract and i'm a bit pi55ed.........Oooops[:'(]
 
no - tb and coils work together. set up the rears so that the helpers are just fully coil bound when the car is at rest (emc method).
 
Cheers link works on my home computer. So reading instructions I fully close the valves and then open it by the number of turns in the manual. Looks like a lot of bump on the rear? Is that not almost fully hard as it says to only do 0.5 turns?
 
KW factory settings are quite firm, as I have suggested to exskyline who is also having these fitted, I would first try on factory settings and then + 2 clicks softer (1/3rd turn), this I have found is much better for uk roads, etc.


Edd
 
with standard kw springs my settings were fine on the road. with stiffer springs it's not quite as comfy.

I fitted stiffer springs to curb roll oversteer - might be less of an issue with 968 m030 arbs. ( I have standard s2 ones)
 
What springs are you running ed? Why was it over steering? I thought having it stiffer would make it oversteer more but maybe I'm wrong. My car was really oversteery last time on gaz golds and it was due to being too stiff on rear
 
Yes.

So for example, (rear rebound on mine does not use clicks, but 1/4 turns)

Front bump 8 clicks open
Front rebound 10 clicks open
Rear Bump 6 clicks open
Rear rebound 12 clicks/2 turns (8 1/4 turns)


Edd
 
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