Modified cars.
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Peter Empson
PCGB Member
If it's performance modifications then the UK power league part of Ricks website is the most useful. If it's cosmetic mods then I don't know of one place (there are plenty on Ricks site but you'll need to look through the thousands of pics), as ever Rennlist is probably the best place to search for particular images and before this forum was available a lot of us used the Titanic gallery.
What an outrageous suggestion. How can you even contemplate changing anything on the 944, or any Porsche for that matter? And on a Porsche Club forum no less! [
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You wouldn't catch me fitting bigger brakes and turbos and injectors and throwing away the air flow meter and the cycling control valve. Why would you want things made by TiAL and Forge and Gredy and Link? And what is wrong with the original bushes, springs, top mounts, roll bars, bottom ball joints and camber mounts? And who would want a strut brace, or adjustable shocks? And as for lighting why would anyone want things made by people called IceShark and Flaming Eye? And have you been in a 944? There is nothing wrong with the drivers seat, or steering wheel or gear shift linkage - why change them? And who wants a harness let alone something to fix it to? And what is wrong with the original boost guage? It goes up to 1 Bar. Why would you need any more? And what is an AFR guage for when it is at home? And as for people who fit splitters and big exhausts - what planet are they from? And a 944 is a perfectly adequate 4 seater what madness encourages people to take out the seat backs or fill the back of the car with a roll hoop? And what is the fascination with removing rear wipers? You'll be sorry when trying to park in Tescos when its raining Sonny Jim you mark my words.
Scoundrals!! []
]You wouldn't catch me fitting bigger brakes and turbos and injectors and throwing away the air flow meter and the cycling control valve. Why would you want things made by TiAL and Forge and Gredy and Link? And what is wrong with the original bushes, springs, top mounts, roll bars, bottom ball joints and camber mounts? And who would want a strut brace, or adjustable shocks? And as for lighting why would anyone want things made by people called IceShark and Flaming Eye? And have you been in a 944? There is nothing wrong with the drivers seat, or steering wheel or gear shift linkage - why change them? And who wants a harness let alone something to fix it to? And what is wrong with the original boost guage? It goes up to 1 Bar. Why would you need any more? And what is an AFR guage for when it is at home? And as for people who fit splitters and big exhausts - what planet are they from? And a 944 is a perfectly adequate 4 seater what madness encourages people to take out the seat backs or fill the back of the car with a roll hoop? And what is the fascination with removing rear wipers? You'll be sorry when trying to park in Tescos when its raining Sonny Jim you mark my words.
Scoundrals!! [
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pauljmcnulty
Active member
Simon, as you've so proudly not been a member for so long, how the hell would you know? [8|]
Ignoring the repeated pops at the Club, outside of the hardcore Concourse people, a small minority (welcome, of course), that attitude is long gone. Otherwise most of us 944 regulars would have been kicked out years ago. There was an article in last month's mag about a 924 that had been turned into a fish! [&:]
Not in my experience and I would hope I am slightly qualified to comment. You might be surprised how open minded Club members are these days.
I was talking to a past Chairman, only last week, about his upgraded brakes on his 356. 50% of the current board, to my personal knowledge, have modified their cars and I am at a loss to think of more than a handful of people I know within the Club who haven't tweaked their car in some way or another.
Yet another Club myth perhaps?
Oh dear. I read that and thought it was a very sensible outlook on life.ORIGINAL: John Sims
What an outrageous suggestion. How can you even contemplate changing anything on the 944, or any Porsche for that matter? And on a Porsche Club forum no less! [
You wouldn't catch me fitting bigger brakes and turbos and injectors and throwing away the air flow meter and the cycling control valve. Why would you want things made by TiAL and Forge and Gredy and Link? And what is wrong with the original bushes, springs, top mounts, roll bars, bottom ball joints and camber mounts? And who would want a strut brace, or adjustable shocks? And as for lighting why would anyone want things made by people called IceShark and Flaming Eye? And have you been in a 944? There is nothing wrong with the drivers seat, or steering wheel or gear shift linkage - why change them? And who wants a harness let alone something to fix it to? And what is wrong with the original boost guage? It goes up to 1 Bar. Why would you need any more? And what is an AFR guage for when it is at home? And as for people who fit splitters and big exhausts - what planet are they from? And a 944 is a perfectly adequate 4 seater what madness encourages people to take out the seat backs or fill the back of the car with a roll hoop? And what is the fascination with removing rear wipers? You'll be sorry when trying to park in Tescos when its raining Sonny Jim you mark my words.
Scoundrals!! [
Whoops! [
]Oli.
944 man
Active member
This is the only 'pop' at the club that Ive made Paul. It was you who made a snide remark and pulled a silly face suggesting sarcastically that I enter my car for a club concours competition, when I mentioned in a thread that I had a stripped interior plastic windows. I can search through and find the post if need be, although I am sure that you remember it. It was this remark, made when I was a relatively new forum member, which made me think better of re-joining the club. Considering your position as register secretary I felt that it was a fair appraisal of the clubs position.
wolfie308
New member
ORIGINAL: sc0tty
Well if you guys are going to have a maxpower section for all your mods, then I propose a section for non- modded, perfect factory condition standard cars like mine. [
Hmm.... I think you'd be in a small club of ever decreasing numbers. Would pretty well rule out all turbo owners for a start and anyway, I like my LED sidelight/indicators
ORIGINAL: zcacogp
Oh dear. I read that and thought it was a very sensible outlook on life.ORIGINAL: John Sims
What an outrageous suggestion. How can you even contemplate changing anything on the 944, or any Porsche for that matter? And on a Porsche Club forum no less! [
You wouldn't catch me fitting bigger brakes and turbos and injectors and throwing away the air flow meter and the cycling control valve. Why would you want things made by TiAL and Forge and Gredy and Link? And what is wrong with the original bushes, springs, top mounts, roll bars, bottom ball joints and camber mounts? And who would want a strut brace, or adjustable shocks? And as for lighting why would anyone want things made by people called IceShark and Flaming Eye? And have you been in a 944? There is nothing wrong with the drivers seat, or steering wheel or gear shift linkage - why change them? And who wants a harness let alone something to fix it to? And what is wrong with the original boost guage? It goes up to 1 Bar. Why would you need any more? And what is an AFR guage for when it is at home? And as for people who fit splitters and big exhausts - what planet are they from? And a 944 is a perfectly adequate 4 seater what madness encourages people to take out the seat backs or fill the back of the car with a roll hoop? And what is the fascination with removing rear wipers? You'll be sorry when trying to park in Tescos when its raining Sonny Jim you mark my words.
Scoundrals!! [
Whoops! [
Oli.
Absolutely not. But then when has that ever stopped us. [
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Hilux
New member
Well if you guys are going to have a maxpower section for all your mods, then I propose a section for non- modded, perfect factory condition standard cars like mine. [
Sc0tty
The standard car can be enhanced enormously without affecting its `original look`
Regarding modifications, it depends what people want out of their car. Most dont reap the benefit but simply get a warm feeling talking about it on forums such as these.
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Which one are you
Modify to bring up to modern standards (suspension etc) [
]Modify power/controls to improve tractability (turbo lag etc) and make it more driver friendly [
]Large power hikes that can only be seriously used on track [8D]
Standard with original part enhancements like wheels etc (they are already quick enough) [
]Bolt on expensive bling bits no-one can see and the benefits only realised at the traffic lights [&o]
Loads of racing car/safety stuff for 1 evening track day a year [8|]
Completely stripped out cars that only talk about track days [8D]
Extensive mods for as many track days the cost of the mods allow[
]Sensible tyres and brakes and nail it every weekend at a track somewhere [8D]
I must be getting old I guess ! [
That'll be you and me both Scotty! (Although I'm still a good way off 40, I hasten to add!)
It does strike me that there is a fundamental difference between S2 owners and Turbo owners which hasn't yet been mentioned on this thread. That is that Turbos respond well to a small sum of money spent on tuning parts; S2's are much, much harder to tune. Is it relevant that both Scotty and I have S2's, and we are both much happier with standard (or nearly-standard, in my case) cars?
Paul, that's an interesting list of categories you posted there. I guess I don't fit any of these either, but would consider myself to be very happy with my S2, but wanting to improve it where possible to make it more enjoyable to drive. Everything is done on a budget, but it's fun to do. (Although I am developing a suspicion that the best 'modifications' are actually returning it to standard spec - removing worn-out parts and replacing with new, standard - or only mildly uprated - ones.)
Oli.
That is a fair comment and the biggest question when people ask "Should I get a Turbo or an S2?" - Do you, or might you, want to modify it? If the answer is "No" then the S2 is perhaps the best bet.
Nice list Paul - Regrettably I can see me straight away, though not through choice.[]
Nice list Paul - Regrettably I can see me straight away, though not through choice.[
]John,
I've helpfully emphasised the mistake in your post. Replace it with "Without a shadow of doubt, always" and you'll be right. (Maybe I should give this joke a bit of a miss, eh? It is wearing a bit thin.)
From Paul's list, I'd guess you are in category 7 or 8. Possibly 3. Why do you say it's not through choice?
Oli.
Children! (Not that I am old enough to be your father)
3 is fair. 8 is unfair. 7 is perhaps embarrassingly true though not through choice - lack of time and money and a guilty conscience which means I can't blow £100's on selfish pursuits when I should be spending what little free time and money I have on Belinda, Peter & Mostyn. [] Buttocks - I'm starting to sound like an adult
I have had to edit this, now we have reference numbers as I miscounted last time-
3. No - you can never have too much power - I feel more akin to 2 though.
For 7 read 6
For 8 read 7
If that makes sense. [&:]
3 is fair. 8 is unfair. 7 is perhaps embarrassingly true though not through choice - lack of time and money and a guilty conscience which means I can't blow £100's on selfish pursuits when I should be spending what little free time and money I have on Belinda, Peter & Mostyn. [
] Buttocks - I'm starting to sound like an adultI have had to edit this, now we have reference numbers as I miscounted last time-
3. No - you can never have too much power - I feel more akin to 2 though.
For 7 read 6
For 8 read 7
If that makes sense. [&:]
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