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My 993 CS Race car is nearly finished

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Steve Rance

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Thought I'd update you gentlemen. The car is progressing nicely and is now in full paint with cage fitted and seam welded where appropriate. Suspension has been shot blasted, sperical joints fitted along with solid subframe mounts and every nut and bolt replaced. Basically the suspension is now full cup spec. Looking forward to getting out in it and working on the set up

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What series are you going race it in?

And can you put in a temporary passenger seat and take it along to the Oulton RS day in March? [;)]
 
Ha ha! OK, I'll do a few rides at Oulton. want one? Not sure what to race it in as yet. The 993 at the moment is a bit of an inbetweenie. To modern for historics and too old for current gt racing. maybe intermarque but the thought really doesnt appeal. I dont want to race it in a series like the GT cup because driving standards arnt inspiring. It is currently a bit of a dilema but I'll find something. When it's finished I'll do a few MSA test days in it and get a balance in the chasis. Once I get some representative lap times I'll have a better idea what I'll do with it but it's mint and I dont want to race against billies in it.
 

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If it's not finished I'll bring myy 996RS. You would never live it down if you came out in that! 
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I've been taken around Oulton in a few 6 and 7 GT3s and RSs. I appreciate them all and it's nice to see the other side of the fence. I leave my old '64 in the car park on the RS day as it and me are a bit slow for that sort of company. Sampling others driving skills from the passenger seat is almost as good though and very educational....especially Gordon's lines in his 6RS [:D]
 
Gungho's reputation is second to none! Pity he won't get a driving lesson.

Never laughed so much when he spun off at the hairpin at KH infront of me.

You don't want him behind you!
 
Looking forward to seeing the finished car.

That top photo is one for clubsport, I am assuming the car is RHD? my RHD car has the M003 cage in but with the roof diagonal going the opposite way, same as in a LHD car. Makes sense the way your cage is set up.

 
Watching this thread with interest as I'd love to do something like this to my 964 - how does Paul Mc costs compare to someone like 9M ?
 

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Looking forward to seeing the finished car.

That top photo is one for clubsport, I am assuming the car is RHD? my RHD car has the M003 cage in but with the roof diagonal going the opposite way, same as in a LHD car.  Makes sense the way your cage is set up.
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Great minds, Mike....[:D]

That was the first thing I noticed too!
 
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Watching this thread with interest as I'd love to do something like this to my 964 - how does Paul Mc costs compare to someone like 9M ?
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Paul is a good personal friend but it was his knowledge of air cooled 911's and his attention to detail that led me to use him. His workshop are expert in 993 and 964 repair and renovations right down to exact Matter cage copies using the correct tubing supplied by the original matter supplier and exact locations of seam welds etc.. He even insists on re wrapping the loom with wrap from the original 993 supplier. Now the car is in paint and the finish is beautifully authentic down to the bear underside and slight drizzle of overspray on the inner arches. I think that 9M offer a clubsport recreation for both the 993 and 964. Before you start on a project, be aware of wexactly what you want and the costs involved. The only reason I started it was because my car has an interesting race history already and was fitted with the correct 3.8 engine, cup top mounts, recaros etc.. If you wanted to build an exact 964 CS re creation from a standard 964 with seam welded chasis, matter cage, correct engine etc I doubt whether you'd get change out of 40K plus the donor car. If you do decide to go ahead, for what it's worth my advice is to get as close to the original as possible.
 
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Watching this thread with interest as I'd love to do something like this to my 964 - how does Paul Mc costs compare to someone like 9M ?
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Paul is a good personal friend but it was his knowledge of air cooled 911's and his attention to detail that led me to use him. His workshop are expert in 993 and 964 repair and renovations right down to exact Matter cage copies using the correct tubing supplied by the original matter supplier and exact locations of seam welds etc.. He even insists on re wrapping the loom with wrap from the original 993 supplier. Now the car is in paint and the finish is beautifully authentic down to the bear underside and slight drizzle of overspray on the inner arches. I think that 9M offer a clubsport recreation for both the 993 and 964. Before you start on a project, be aware of wexactly what you want and the costs involved. The only reason I started it was because my car has an interesting race history already and was fitted with the correct 3.8 engine, cup top mounts, recaros etc.. If you wanted to build an exact 964 CS re creation from a standard 964 with seam welded chasis, matter cage, correct engine etc I doubt whether you'd get change out of 40K plus the donor car. If you do decide to go ahead, for what it's worth my advice is to get as close to the original as possible.
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Thanks for the response - wasn't looking at building a true rep - just thinking along the lines of cage, sunroof delete and a bit a seam welding to stiffen up the chassis. Mines more a long term project :)
 
Dont understimate the effort of doing the cage. As the cage on the 64CS goes through the rear bulkhead down to the suspension mounts, its not an easy thing to do. So once you've committed to doing that properly and the seam welding, its not so much more to finish the job off right as Steve says.
 
Steve, looking good! The first thought that sprung to my mind is why did not you buy a 993 Cup? Total costs will be similar no?
 
To be honest, I never intended to convert it originally. I bought it as a road registered fun car that I thought would be a quick track day car and only because it had a fresh (4hours) Non variocam 3.8 engine, transmission and dampers. When Parr looked it over they said how straight it was and it kind of went from there. Would I have bought a cup car? probably not unless it was totally fresh and that would probably put it over the 70k mark. What I will end up having is a RHD almost nut and bolt M030 recreation with suspension which is probably a little more extreme than a cup car in that it has even more spherical joints and adjustable dampers. Good question though. It will be interesting to see how the lap times compare to a cup car. I almost certainly wouldnt have considered the conversion if the car didnt already have an interesting racing history.
 
Gotta be less than a season in the Carrera Cup![;)]

Looking forward to seeing it at Oulton RS Day next year![:)]
 
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