PA1000 Remote problems

[Stig Republic]

My suggestion is to directly contact "Hamilton & Palmer", the original supplier of the PA1000 for the Porsche 993 in the UK. I found them to be very helpful and they were able to pay a visit and solved the problem without delay. * PA1000 alarm for Porsche 993: "Hamilton & Palmer" Tel: +44 1732 760022 Email: sales@hamilton-palmer.co.uk Web: www.hamilton-palmer.co.uk Best of luck! []

 

[dommorton]

Thanks I will try them on Monday. Would be nice if I didn't have to spend out a fortune on it so soon after buying!

 

[dommorton]

My remote range degraded seriously this week where by I have had to stand right next to the car to activate the system.

Instantly I thought it must be the battery so replaced it with a nice new 9v KP10 10A which should be a direct replacement for the L1022 that was in there. Same problem rubbish range. The problem got so bad today I have to stand in a particular place on the passenger side to make it work at all!

I resolderd the tabs which hold the battery and this made no difference either. Also attempted a reprogram using the master fob but this seemed to achieve nothing either as I couldn't get my black fob to respond at all!

I have the later smaller style two button fob. I've also another very tired looking original large fob but this seems to do nothing at all.

Anyone else had a similar issue? perhaps I should try another new battery? can anyone confirm the one I've fitted is correct?

 

[day1zero]

Thats defo the way ahead - they brilliant and so helpful !!!

 

[Mark Elder]

I've had to stand right next to car to make either of my remotes work - has been same for all 3 years I've had the car. Have to be right by either passenger or drivers door window. Includes replacing batteries in both fobs and reprogramming one of them. I assumed that was normal until my indie was surprised by it and said I ought to change batteries (but I already had). Theory on here ages ago was that it was the aeriel on the main alarm unit - but I have never found the aeriel - although I have never really searched for it (needs the seat out and I forgot on the occassion I removed the seats). Have you done any thing under the seats (like move carparts around) on the day the remote range suddenly shortened?

 

[dommorton]

Hi Mark, Well mine was definitely better before. I could use the remote from about 20 metres away from the car. Can't put my finger on a particular day it packed up as it seemed more gradual over the course of the week. I haven't been under the seat for anything and can only have been near the alarm box when perhaps hoovering it out? Today I can't get the plip to work at all and had to lock with the key! [&o]

 

[Mark Elder]

ORIGINAL: dommorton Today I can't get the plip to work at all and had to lock with the key! [&o]

Oh - well, I'll be interested to hear what it turns out to be. It would be quite nice to have a bit more range on mine. But if you are having to use the key does that mean you can't de-immobilise the car? With mine, if the ignition is off for more than 30 seconds I have to press the unlock button on the fob to switch off the immobiliser.

 

[dommorton]

Yep can't start it at all! Luckily it's tucked up in the garage so not a major issue.

 

[dommorton]

Just managed to get in to the car and can deactivate immobiliser with the plip held under the seat! I noticed in the fuse box up front there is an addition of 3 fuses in a separate holder which has been spliced in? is this part of the Alarm install? the car has no other aftermarket equipment so not sure what else it could be for?

 

[Mark Elder]

hm... I think you definately need a bit more range on that plip! I've not noticed an extra 3 fuses spliced into my fuse box. Where? (actually inside the box on an extra board, or outside?). My understanding is that the Hamilton+Palmer PA1000 simply replaces the German (not so secure) alarm system so I can't see why it would need extra fuses. Your car is an S (mine is not) so perhaps the extra fuses relate to an S feature??

 

[dommorton]

Goodness only knows what they are for then? here's a rubbish pic from my phone. As you can see certainly not factory fitted!

 

[Mark Elder]

No, definately not got that in my car. As has been stated above you will find Hamilton & Palmer to be very helpful. I've only had to phone them once but they sorted me out immediately over the phone.

 

[dommorton]

Well H&P were very nice and helpful. I have ordered another fob to see if that'll make any difference. If not I need to check out the aeriel in the car and if still not sorted send the lot off to be checked out [&o] Fingers crossed the new fob will sort it

 

[jmw74]

I had the same problem with my PA1000. Unfortunately, whilst the range was getting smaller and smaller, it finally packed up when the car was locked in a multi story car park in Coventry the day before I was due to do this year's track day at Silverstone. I could get in the car using the key, but couldn't remobilise. To cut a long story short, I missed the track-day, and had to get towed all the back home to London (ironically, passing signs to Silverstone on the M40). You're lucky the car was in your garage when it happened. I had tried different fobs - didn't help. Looked like my H&P circuit board had gone. Rather than replace it with another H&P circuit board, I just had the whole PA1000 alarm replaced with another more modern alarm. Can't remember which exactly - but it does come with a seperate electronic key that can remobilise the car should any similar problem happen again. RAS Cars just South East of London sorted it all out. Was about £300 for new alarm plus labour. Still not as costly as missing a day at Silverstone. Ho hum. At least the PCGB Motorsport lot were kind enough to let me go on this Saturday's track day at Castle Combe for free instead.

 

[dommorton]

Nightmare really hope the board isn't gone. Received my new key today and programmed it in only to find I can still only lock/unlock with the key almost touching the car [&:] Going to contact the dealer I got the car from about it as only had the car a matter of weeks. H&P suggested checking the aeriel next but I don't hold out too much hope now.

 

[dommorton]

Now I'm confused as to what does what under the seat [>:] There is a large black alloy cased box nearest the drivers side sill and the wiring for it disappears under the seat runners and presumably into the inner sill? From info on here and from H&P I thought this was the PA1000 board which has the aeriel connected to it. However when under there operating the key a red light comes on on the smaller black plastic box nearer the centre tunnel and I hear it click and the Central Locking activates. This smaller box seems also to have a black wire coming out of it which is cable tied to the loom going toward the B Pillar. Is this an aeriel?. In addition all three wires form this box have what look like interference suppressors clipped on to them? So which box does what? could my range issue be attributed to the smaller black plastic box?

 

[dommorton]

Well I have investigated further and with the following findings: The extra fuses in the fuse box are definitely for the alarm. When I pulled and replaced them with the alarm disarmed it went crazy. I'm guessing all cars with PA1000 systems have these in one form or another? guessing it would depend on the installer as to how and where they are fitted though. I called the last owner and he says he had the exact same problem 2 years ago and so had the board replaced. This fixed the fault and cost him about £160 I've now got the drivers seat out and have had the main board out of the PA1000 box. I disconnected and reconnected the Aerial lead which has sadly made zero difference. I'm quite likely to end up having to send the board off to H&P but it baffles me how two can go faulty with the exact same fault. Seems more likely something else is wrong to me? Still really keen to learn what roles the other two boxes under there perform. So if anyone knows please advise.

 

[Mark Elder]

Of course this got me curious and I have now been poking around under my seats. 1) Checked fuse box first, and definately nothing like your "extra" fuses. 2) Under driver's seat (RHD car) at the tunnel side I have 1 metal box (aluminium coloured). It's probably 20-25mm thick and perhaps 100x100 (although I can't really see it's depth). Has a connector on it with a cable (a wrapped bunch of cables) that is cable tied to the loom and disappears into a hole with the loom. No sign of an aerial cable. 3) Under passenger seat there is the box I have always assumed to be the ECU (more than 25mm thick, with a massive black connector on it, aluminiun in colour). This is more to the door side than central. 4) Then there is another box about same size as the one under driver's seat. It does not look so neatly fitted. It is over at tunnel side and is metal, but black. It has some frail looking wires coming from it with something on end than looks like a small speaker (round, 30mm across and 10mm thick, with a hole in one side. It is stuck to the floor with glue) I forgot to try pressing the remote fob buttons while doing this. I doubt this helps much!

 

[Taverner]

ORIGINAL: dommorton Instantly I thought it must be the battery so replaced it with a nice new 9v KP10 10A which should be a direct replacement for the L1022 that was in there. Same problem rubbish range. The problem got so bad today I have to stand in a particular place on the passenger side to make it work at all!

I have just had some problems with my alarm (PA 1000 System) It would lock ok but not unlock. Decided to check the battery prior to getting a replacement and found that it was 12 volt,(Duracell Security MN21) same size in both my fobs. So now I am wondering what is the correct size/voltage? Also alarm will sometimes go off for no apparent reason. Talked with H&P, they told me you can interogate the system and it will indidcate, by the number of flashes given the reason for the last three alarm activations. I tried this a number of times, but never got a satisfactory reason. I think it is to do with the ultrasonic sensors. Details of how to interogate the alarm are in the alarm instruction leaflet. The leaflet gives instructions for changing the battery, but no battery details. Michael

 

[Mark Elder]

ORIGINAL: Taverner ....and found that it was 12 volt,(Duracell Security MN21) same size in both my fobs. So now I am wondering what is the correct size/voltage?....

The ones I was told to order were: GP Alkaline 10A 9V http://www.watchbattery.co.uk/cgi-bin/fcp.pl?words=10A&wt=ew&bl=an&d=/products/BAGP-10A.shtml Have been using them for 3 years. Perhaps they should be 12V and that is why my fob range is so limited! I can't remember who told me to get that battery - it was 3 years ago now. Anyone been to their OPC to get an OPFB? (official porsche fob battery) what voltage is it?