Porsche Post April disappointing

[russmw]

There must be somethging wrong with me.
I started with a 911, 2.7S and then upgraded to the 924 range. 1980 lux, 1981 Turbo, 1987 924S followed by another 1986 924 S this one a special project car from Porscheshop. I still have the last 2.

Geoff, I live in Witney and seen your martini 924 a number of times but I'm usually in my saab and only once when I was in my 924 on the way out of Witney. You have a great looking car.

 

[Nick_USA]

I remember being taken to school in a 924 ..... []

 

[nwns]

924 owners are protective of their cars, they are amazing things. Parked my black one next to a 996 today and the owner was all over my car cooing and loving it. The 924 is a real classic that everyone wants to cuddle these days. Not really sure of the argument in the thread, it's great and we love it... no? Any past looking down the nose is now dead unless you're a ****head?

 

[chrishak]

There must be somethging wrong with me.
I started with a 911, 2.7S and then upgraded to the 924 range. 1980 lux, 1981 Turbo, 1987 924S followed by another 1986 924 S this one a special project car from Porscheshop. I still have the last 2.

Once a maverick Geoff...

 

[CarreraRSR]

All owners can be accused of being over protective of their choice of cars. Its like someone saying one of your kids is ugly, isn't good at sport or is stupid. Most of us would retort pretty quickly. As for the 924 'van engine' piece, if only the supposed well educated and passionate of the brand writers and magazines would end this perpetual need to write this comment in almost every article or feature they pen about the 924, then the masses (an us owners) would soon forget. I would like to know which journo/title first wrote this comment for it to be regurgitated for so long. We all know the Cosworth twin cams and turbo engines derived from blocks used in Transits. We all know most of the US of A's muscle cars use blocks from pick up trucks. But there is never a comment made on these in Faster than Fast Ford or Muscle Car Weekly et al.

So if anyone is still in the dark about the origins of a 924 engine, then they should read this article - http://flussigmagazine.com/11/post/2014/12/origins-of-the-ea831-engine.html Maybe email this to all Porsche journos before they pen any more 924 stories this year?!

As for being an over protective parent? Guilty! At the car shows I attend and I am often confronted with the 'van engine' comment by a mis informed passer by. Usually its said with an inquisitive tone and I am happy to point out all the Porsche designed/derived parts in my car/engine bay as well as the VW/Audi parts bin items. If there is any element of derogatory questioning or finger pointing, it does usually come from a minority of Porsche 'experts' regardless of the version they drive.

I think with all the 40th anniversary attention the 924 is receiving, then this year should be the turning point in re educating the people on how good this little sports car really is. Forget the talk on classic car values, buy one because you want one and get out and drive it. At least while its at the lower end of the Porsche price spectrum there will be no excuse not to drive and enjoy it for far of wiping out half its potential classic value.

 

[nwns]

Eloquently put Steve

 

[scm924s]

Nice to see this thread has generated so much 924 interest, hopefully this will continue with both PCGB and TIPEC showcasing the 924 40th Anniversary at events, and the 924 OC holding an event for 924's only at Porsche Silverstone with over 100 entries so far.

 

[chrishak]

All owners can be accused of being over protective of their choice of cars. Its like someone saying one of your kids is ugly, isn't good at sport or is stupid. Most of us would retort pretty quickly. As for the 924 'van engine' piece, if only the supposed well educated and passionate of the brand writers and magazines would end this perpetual need to write this comment in almost every article or feature they pen about the 924, then the masses (an us owners) would soon forget. I would like to know which journo/title first wrote this comment for it to be regurgitated for so long. We all know the Cosworth twin cams and turbo engines derived from blocks used in Transits. We all know most of the US of A's muscle cars use blocks from pick up trucks. But there is never a comment made on these in Faster than Fast Ford or Muscle Car Weekly et al.

So if anyone is still in the dark about the origins of a 924 engine, then they should read this article - http://flussigmagazine.com/11/post/2014/12/origins-of-the-ea831-engine.html Maybe email this to all Porsche journos before they pen any more 924 stories this year?!

As for being an over protective parent? Guilty! At the car shows I attend and I am often confronted with the 'van engine' comment by a mis informed passer by. Usually its said with an inquisitive tone and I am happy to point out all the Porsche designed/derived parts in my car/engine bay as well as the VW/Audi parts bin items. If there is any element of derogatory questioning or finger pointing, it does usually come from a minority of Porsche 'experts' regardless of the version they drive.

I think with all the 40th anniversary attention the 924 is receiving, then this year should be the turning point in re educating the people on how good this little sports car really is. Forget the talk on classic car values, buy one because you want one and get out and drive it. At least while its at the lower end of the Porsche price spectrum there will be no excuse not to drive and enjoy it for far of wiping out half its potential classic value.

Great post!

 

[MJB]

Nice to see this thread has generated so much 924 interest, hopefully this will continue with both PCGB and TIPEC showcasing the 924 40th Anniversary at events, and the 924 OC holding an event for 924's only at Porsche Silverstone with over 100 entries so far.

...which begs the question as to why the 924 anniversary -like the Boxster anniversary- doesn't merit a mention in our Website or Porsche Post details of our 'national event'. At least the 924 anniversary gets a mention on the Silverstone Classic website, although not that of the Boxster.

 

[chrishak]

Nice to see this thread has generated so much 924 interest, hopefully this will continue with both PCGB and TIPEC showcasing the 924 40th Anniversary at events, and the 924 OC holding an event for 924's only at Porsche Silverstone with over 100 entries so far.

...which begs the question as to why the 924 anniversary -like the Boxster anniversary- doesn't merit a mention in our Website or Porsche Post details of our 'national event'. At least the 924 anniversary gets a mention on the Silverstone Classic website, although not that of the Boxster.

And as a Boxster owner I suppose I should cry 'foul' and bleat about 'the clubs ongoing neglect of the car that saved Porsche 2nd time round'. But I won't, and do you know why? Because a) I don't care and b) I know it would be B/S because PCGB respects and welcome's the Boxster equally with any other model, 924 included.

 

[vincematthews]

Eloquently put Steve

+1

 

[russmw]

As it seem appropriate there's also multi page spread on the 924 in classic car magazine I spotted last night which does mention the various images the 924 has had but over all a good write up.

Isn't there some saying about any publicity is good publicity??

 

[pse_SC]

2.0 and Turbo models are becoming more and more appreciated and loved

...and the 2.5 924S (biased)[][]

 

[Robin]

Nice, Geoff.
Robin and Jo have now realised the virtues of the 924, after many years touring in their 911S []

We are just about to continue touring but this time in the '83 924, it may be the only 924 at this years Porsche Parade in Slovenia and Croatia, any others going?

 

[pse_SC]

My first Porsche was a 944 lux. I loved it.
Plenty of love in PCGB for all the transaxle cars

Rob - now you are in the hallowed position of Chairman (congrats!), we hope to put that sentiment to the test at Silverstone Classic [][8D]

 

[rob.kellock]

Thanks - hopefully the proof of the pudding will be in the eating! Lots of cars needed for Silverstone Classic parade laps and displays, plenty going on for sure.

 

[vincematthews]

After Chris Horton's reasonable summary of the 924 in the March 2016 PP he goes to the bottom of the class .....
What's worse is the lack of editorial direction because earlier in the same issue we have a nice page by Tony Eldridge devoted to the history of the 924 and it's power unit. Surely Porsche Post should get the facts correct and consistent?

I personally raised the quality of CH's commissioned articles at the meeting of some RS's with the Register realignment subcommitte (PB & AW) last month. I ensured Chris GM was aware that he was paying for a load of old rope. The subject seemed to have gained considerable momentum by the Workers Conference last weekend, net result the commissions will not be extended beyond the current contract.
IMHO, there are many technocrats in the club who could do better, if they need a little 'professionalism' (comment from GM) added we now have resources within club office to assist with this, hopefully retaining the essential facts intact.
cheers, Maurice

In the words of Karl Ludvigsen, "Porsche: Excellence Was Expected" and this is something that PP should aspire to if it doesn't want to be seen as just another 'coffee table' magazine.

I am heartened to hear you and others have given things a shake up, Maurice, and will be interested to see the results in the future.

 

[Alan Woods]

Funny, I got this when I bought an 924 new in 1984.... and 30 years later when a guy rolled down his window and shouted "why didnt you get a real porsch" when we had the Cayman R (and a 911 at home).

 

[chrishak]

I've just got round to reading the 'offending' article (I know, I know...) and I think the OP has missed the point.
I'm the first to admit that I haven't always been the biggest fan of Chris Horton's editing, having suffered adversely at the hands of his keyboard in the past. However, I have the utmost respect for him as a journalist and Porsche enthusiast and we're all aware of his fondness for the transaxle cars. With this in mind, look carefully at the offending sentence and you'll see it finishes with an ellipsis thus;
'and all from a VW van engine...'
I'll be very surprised if it wasn't meant a subtle tongue-in-cheek comment which we have all taken literally. On this occasion, I for one will give him the benefit of doubt - and I'm glad to say that none of my comments have been in criticism of his excellent article.
A smiley face would have made all the difference...??

 

[scm924s]

The bottom line is that it is an unworthy comment on a excellent Porsche design and best buried. No one prefaces comments on the original line of aircooled rear engined cars with the obvious derogatory remark on their VW Beetle ancestry, and the original front engined water cooled car should expect the same respect.