Respray progress

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

If only I could come up with a good solution for losing weight out of the doors

Possibly easier to lose weight from the driver's seat area, though....[][]

Oh, so you think I should change the fibreglass bucket seat for a carbon one? Not a bad idea, I'll look into it

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: 944psi

Peter, looking at your pictures makes me realise just how committed you are to your car. It also humbles me to think that I didn't have the balls to sort out my first S2 that was possibly in the same sort of condition [well probably a little worse] and I took the 'easier' option.

Now, having owned one for nearly 2 years, I would have no hesitation in committing to such a project [subject to time, money and an understanding wife].

Please continue to keep us topped up with pictures!

Phil

Hi Phil
Funnily enough I was just thinking it was rather ironic how I got the engine from your car due to exactly the same problems. I can't believe it's been two years. Time flies!
Daft how we can become so attached to a lump of metal/pile of rust (delete as applicable [])

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: steve 944t

wow that is some serious work. May I ask where you are having the work done? I so far have an estimate from 1 bodyshop for over £3.5k to replace 1 sill and both front wings. Seems rather steep to me!

The guy doing it is called Alan Yeadon and he's a bit hidden away in a place called Kimpton in Herts (tel: 01438 833605), he came to me highly recommended (he does loads of 911's and 944's) and what I've seen of his work seems very thorough. He does everything himself and is of the old school. Another nice benefit is he seems keen for me to get involved and change things as we go along.

That £3.5K quote does sound a bit dear to me, I'd definately shop around a bit more if I were you (possibly sounds like they don't want the work or maybe aren't familiar with the cars).

 

[steve 944t]

Thanks for that Peter. I will give him a call. The bodyshop I went to is a specialist with "911" in their name, so I expected them to be a bit on the pricey side []
If I did use your chap, I am guessing from your pictures that I may have a bit of a wait before he is free! []

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: steve 944t

Thanks for that Peter. I will give him a call. The bodyshop I went to is a specialist with "911" in their name, so I expected them to be a bit on the pricey side []
If I did use your chap, I am guessing from your pictures that I may have a bit of a wait before he is free! []

Oi, don't go distracting him too soon []
I'm hoping it'll be out of there in a month, but this depends upon how long the front bumper takes to be made (I'm really looking forward to that bit). In some ways the longer the better as it'll help with the finances []
It may then go straight to RPM for the SC fitment then back to him for final polishing afterwards - possibly not the most logical order but parts supply has sadly dictated that.

 

[steve 944t]

ORIGINAL: Peter Empson


Oi, don't go distracting him too soon []

[] Dont worry. There is no huge rush for mine. It stays tucked away in the garage at the moment.
I am certainly looking forward to seeing your newly fettled beast on track this year - although I dare say if I blink I will miss it!

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: steve 944t

ORIGINAL: Peter Empson


Oi, don't go distracting him too soon []

[] Dont worry. There is no huge rush for mine. It stays tucked away in the garage at the moment.
I am certainly looking forward to seeing your newly fettled beast on track this year - although I dare say if I blink I will miss it!

Lol! Erm, you wont be able to miss it with the size of the front bumper [] The drag will probably be so great that lap times could be measured on a sun dial (plus I wont want to get any stone chips of course).

 

[morris944s2john]

For 3.5K you could go on a restoration course, buy lots of tools and materials, and do the job yourself and have plenty of change left over!

 

[Alpine]

Peter

Very interesting. Do you know how the repair was bodged before you bought it? Do you think it had been in a bump?

How is the nearside cill - does that have rust?

 

[Peter Empson]

Hi Phil,
I know no details about the accident sadly. I'd always assumed the main impact was just to the rear quarter (there was filler in there), and the cill was the usual rusting problem, but looking at the extent of the repairs it seems that wasn't the case. I've been finding glass under the carpets and around that side of the car and I imagine this was probably related.

The sill on the other side is showing rust bubbles but nothing like the offside. I guess I'll really find out once Alan gets his cutter to it [&:]

 

[Diver944]

I like looking at restoration pictures like this (saddo anorak [8|]). If nothing else they have shown me exactly where these inspection bungs are on the inner sill and I plan to get some Waxoyl in mine next weekend. Is the carpet glued on or is it held in place by that threshold bar that runs along the bottom of the door?

 

[sawood12]

I'm so so worried about what might lurk beneath the paint on my car now! I was told everything looked good by the body shop that fixed it up after I was rear ended about 2yrs ago but you never know.

Group buy on front wings and sills anyone??

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: sawood12

Group buy on front wings and sills anyone??

I'm curious to know what the front wings cost from Porsche, I guess £350+vat but you never quite know (my FG ones were half that and wont rust []).

The outer sills are a bit of a steal at something like £120+vat (with forum discount). Ok, it's only a bit of bent steel, but you know what I mean!

 

[edh]

ORIGINAL: Diver944

I like looking at restoration pictures like this (saddo anorak [8|]). If nothing else they have shown me exactly where these inspection bungs are on the inner sill and I plan to get some Waxoyl in mine next weekend. Is the carpet glued on or is it held in place by that threshold bar that runs along the bottom of the door?

The carpet is held by a combination of that bar & glue - but comes off fairly easily (or mine did []) - It seems to be holding in place now I've stuffed it back under the black plastic trim

I used this stuff - in the sills & doors
http://www.bilthamber.com/dynaxs50.html

I'm also trying out their wax - seems to protect the wheels pretty well.
http://www.bilthamber.com/autobalm.html

 

[steve 944t]

ORIGINAL: Peter Empson


I'm curious to know what the front wings cost from Porsche,

£377 + VAT was the best I could get from Chris at Exeter.

For 3.5K you could go on a restoration course, buy lots of tools and materials, and do the job yourself and have plenty of change left over!

or alternatively find someone who has done just that and wants some practice. []

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: steve 944t

ORIGINAL: Peter Empson


I'm curious to know what the front wings cost from Porsche,

£377 + VAT was the best I could get from Chris at Exeter.

Lol! Not a bad guess then, thanks Steve.

 

[zcacogp]

Crumbs Peter - that's quite a lot of rust there! Well done on getting it all sorted out. Your comments about it being structural are interesting - it should be a fair bit stronger as a result of the new metal. May be speaking out of turn here, but a friend once owned a very old fiesta (XR2) which suffered badly from rust. Nasty car to drive. Rusty to the point that it failed an MOT one year, and was repaired - which significantly changed the way it drove, as it was structurally much more rigid. Not sure if this applies to you, but you may actually notice the difference on the road once the repairs are done ...

Did I mis-understand, or are you going to paint that beautiful sunroof panel and blend it into the rest of the roof? You really want that weave showing - please don't cover it up!

What's the timescale on having it finished?


Oli.

 

[333pg333]

Well done Peter. I guess the only downside is all the extra weight you are going to put on with all those holes turned into,....er....metal.[][][]
Seriously, I know I'll be going down this path sometime in the future, but since I've had my car so little over the last 14months I think I'll retain the insulation for just a while longer so I can enjoy it just a little bit more before it becomes a dedicated track rat.
When are you looking at having it all back and on the track?
Best of luck and Godspeed!

 

[Peter Empson]

Hi Oli,
I think the all important bits near the rear suspension are nice and solid, but it'd be great if I could feel the difference. The car is very stiffly sprung and it felt wonderfully together and tight before, so I'd be surprised, but you never know.

I'm not sure if the half cage will increase the rigidity to any real extent either, but it cant hurt (it's going to be welded and not bolted in). If I'd started with a bare shell I'd have had it all seam welded like an RS, but I had to draw the line somewhere.

I can't help thinking the sunroof will look a bit odd if I leave it as it is, but I should get to see it in situ before paint goes on so I can make the judgement then. It is so cool to be able to pick it up between finger and thumb though, try doing that with a standard one! []

I've no real idea of timescale, but suspect it'll be the end of next month or later, but I'm in no rush for once, so as long as I can get it to the Costwold Rally in April I'll be happy.

 

[zcacogp]

Peter,

I'd forgotten the cage as well ... ! I'd hope that there is some noticable difference, rather than a lack of brown stuff on the white paint! Having said that, I'd expect it to have failed a series of MOT's with rust like that, so my opinion must be out of kilter somewhere.

I know that a black sunroof is getting a bit too close to the ricers' black bonnet for comfort, but that weave on the sunroof is lovely ... maybe you should install it upside-down so you can admire it from the drivers seat!

A month to completion? As a good friend of mine once observed, project budgets and timescales only ever move in one direction[] All the best with the cotswold rally.


Oli.