Ropey Turbo on Ebay.....

[PSH]

A/c was standard in the early turbo's and I think later too but stand to be corrected ...I note that the description states 'Cruise control and LSD' these would have been options on an 86

Pete

 

[Monkeythree]

ORIGINAL: PSH

ORIGINAL: Monkeythree

Cool. Thanks. Here's hoping it's still got all those bits after nearly 30 years in service!

well there are certainly some changes from the original equipment if it is an 86?, I hadn't really looked at the photo's before mainly as they are so bad that it made my head swim but I've tried to take a closer look for you...the wheels for sure are later...IMHO the 86 looks best sitting on the early deep dish teledials, this car has later wheels and thus later offset, not sure why...either a previous owner changed it (which has been done by others)or it's not an 86....the top mounts are for a later offset which confirms this. you'll be able to learn a lot more once you receive the paperwork..the VIN number will tell you.

here's hoping...

pete

Thanks. The ad said the cup wheels are on spacers so I'm assuming for now it is an early offset car. I can't see any sign of ABS connectors in the engine bay which I assumed would also indicate early offset car? Didn't know the top mounts were different so It will be interesting to figure out what has been done there.

Should hopefully get the VIN and a photo of the build sticker on Wednesday with the bundle of paperwork in my hands some time next week. Then I can figure out what kind of Frankenstein Monster I have bought!

 

[George Elliott]

Well done M3, there is some work ahead of course, but also a fine early car with the spec etc.

I figured the interior was can can red, Very rare option, especially on a red car. Another difference to those listed already is a full size spare wheel, and matching Boot mat with larger wheel cover. No joke compressor obviously.

It will have brackets on the torque tube to prevent it going back past the rear beam in a frontal collision. Hope you never use them. 160mph speedo, different windscreen washer resv pipes, and ........they tend not to rust like later cars...[]

I have seen 2 can can cars, one 85 with sports seats one 86 comfort 8 way. One car black, the other metallic black. Both red carpets (gone pink)

Usually the early cars had elec drivers seat and manual passenger. Passenger door mirror was an option. ( brill [])

There was a huge focus on the new 944t back in 86, many road tests, 3.2 Carrera comparisons, (this was Porsche's solution to the Beetle which had become pretty outdated pre the G50 box) and therefore well spec'd cars were used by Porsche to drive the sales, and it worked when you see the 86 production / registration figures.

Great to see this one saved, good luck with her

George
944t

 

[JagdHamster]

Well done for saving the car!

Russ

 

[sutters]

Id envisage that sill work to be about £2,000 painted at least. I took the plunge and saved an 86 myself.

arent we brave.

 

[Monkeythree]

ORIGINAL: sutters

Id envisage that sill work to be about £2,000 painted at least. I took the plunge and saved an 86 myself.

arent we brave.

I hope to be able to see the turbo myself for the first time at the end of this month and I will make an assessment of how bad it is and then decide how to approach it. Having done the sills on my S2 myself this time last year I have a handy benchmark to compare against.

He who dares Rodney!

 

[Monkeythree]

The car has been collected and is now safely in storage and I now have some more details on it.

VIN digit 10 is G so 86MY. Last 5 digits of the VIN are a lowish (<2000) number so I'm hoping that means it has the M44.50 engine.

Option codes more or less correlate with what is shown in the ebay pictures/description

C16 - UK
156 - reduced noise muffler (I presume long since gone)
K66 - ??? No idea on this one?
573 - air conditioning
650 - sun roof
666 - without lacquer preservation and chrome preservation (this one made me laugh, I mean, wtf would order a 40 grand car and then say "ooh, I know, I want the paint to be left unprotected"!!!)
983 - front and rear leather seats

No mention of the LSD in the option codes but the transmission code on the build sticker is 5R which I believe is with LSD and oil cooler. Also no mention of the cruise control. Wonder if this was standard or maybe it is the K66 option?

Going to see the car for myself at the end of the month and will then make a decision about what to do with it. I would quite like to restore it and return it to standard i.e. Remove any aftermarket mods. But that needs money and space which means I would have to sell either the TVR or the S2 which I don't really want to do. The alternative would be to strip it out, give it 300 bhp and have some fun on the track with it. I have a feeling it miht deserve better than that though.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

K66 - ??? No idea on this one?

Never seen a "K" option code. 066 is Norwegian market code.... [&:]

 

[Monkeythree]

Just looked at the build sticker photo again and realised that the engine code is on there........51

 

[JaseGT4]

LOts of pics please!

 

[blade7]

I thought option 220 was for LSD ?

 

[Monkeythree]

I have shamelessly copied this from elsewhere on the internet (so it MUST be true) []

Code 5Y 944 (1985.5 - 1988) Without LSD
Code 5Z 944 ( 1985.5 - 1988) With LSD (M220)
Code 5S 944 (1985.5 - 1988) Without LSD
Code 7V 944 (1985.5 - 1988) With LSD
Code 5P 944 (1985.5 - 1988) With oil cooler only - no LSD
Code 5R 944 (1985.5 - 1988) With LSD and Oil Cooler

My build sticker shows 5R.

 

[George Elliott]

the M44.50 engine.

IIRC they only produced around a hundred or maybe fifty units of this type.

Never heard what the differences to the .51 were.

You have the right 'box any way, my experience is the open diff has a tendency to squander the traction that is so special in a 944

George
944t

 

[pauljmcnulty]

ORIGINAL: blade7

I thought option 220 was for LSD ?

Indeed. M220 is locking diff 40%, and they actually added an exclamation mark for some reason. [&:]

I wonder if the other codes, such as the K66 or the ones you list there Tom, are more region-specific? They aren't listed on the general Porsche options lists I have, which are worldwide.

 

[MartinRS2K]

Option 666 on the 944 Turbo Cup car stands for no underbody protection (no underseal)

This was to save weight and also the cars weren't expected to be out on salty roads []

 

[Monkeythree]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

ORIGINAL: blade7

I thought option 220 was for LSD ?

Indeed. M220 is locking diff 40%, and they actually added an exclamation mark for some reason. [&:]

I wonder if the other codes, such as the K66 or the ones you list there Tom, are more region-specific? They aren't listed on the general Porsche options lists I have, which are worldwide.

Porsche, like every other OEM I ever dealt with, runs on codes. Codes for this, codes for that, codes for the other. Some are internal, some are external and some cross the divide. I believe in the case of Porsche, the Mxxx codes are the ones used by dealers to order what the customer has specified as options at the time of ordering but they are then also used by the factory e.g. they cross the divide. Other codes like the transmission codes 5P or AOS or whatever are more likely purely internal codes used by the vehicle scheduling office and the factory to configure a particular vehicle before customer options are taken into considerations. That's how it usually works anyway.

 

[blade7]

ORIGINAL: Monkey


codes for the other.

[]

 

[sutters]

unless it's really a Russian sub? K66

 

[Diver944]

ORIGINAL: sutters

unless it's really a Russian sub? K66

That could explain all the rust []

I don't understand why a road car would be ordered without the underbody underseal though? [&:]