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The day has come. S2 for sale.

Thanks Stuart. It was a lot of effort but I fully intend to drive that car around again in the future and don't want to have to spend a King' ransom to get it roadworthy again.

Big thanks go to all on this forum for their help over the years. Many have gone and I think it is dwindling here but it certainly has been a very good resource for all things 944 - one of the very best on the internet. I've been lucky enough to meet a good number of you over the years and it's never been anything other than a pleasure. (Apart from possibly the time in the car park at Cornbury House when Smiffy referred to a 'ratburger' which made Mrs Zcacogp feel quite nauseous. Mind you I found the incident amusing so perhaps that qualifies as a 'pleasure' as well!)

Carry on with your 944's. I hope this forum is still going in 2029 when the old girl comes out of hibernation!
 
in 2029, fuel will be 50% Ethanol, and £20 a litre.....

I will still be driving mine, up yours Sadiq you spoon


 
Love your post Oli, your preparation seems very thorough and I can't wait to get together in 10 years time and see if yours is better than mine.


 
Diver944 said:
I can't wait to get together in 10 years time and see if yours is better than mine.


It won't be. Your was always a nice example. Please keep it that way.

Happy to put a date in the diary for 10 years time. 14th July 2029 is a Saturday and should be warm. Do you want to put something in? Open to all 944 owners, past and present? Serious suggestion. I've blocked it out in the diary.


Oli.

 
It's a date, but I have something on until 11am so it will have to be lunch [;)]

If all goes to plan I should be retired and in the Lake District by then so I will plan an awesome driving route for the afternoon and then book a table for 20 at the Curry House afterwards.
 
I love you guys and your optimism....10 years for an IC car on UK roads?? I reckon if they aren't completely outlawed by then that fuel will be something that gets delivered via post and costs more than aviation fuel... as for road tax?... yes I know they should be exempt but I very much doubt the government of the day will let that happen?
I am seriously considering selling my 951, not just because of the bleak future but more because I find it so difficult to get in and out of the damn thing these days, it's getting very little use and we all know how bad that is for these cars. Last year I covered less than 2k, this year I'll be lucky to hit 1k miles, the new engine has been in the car for 5 years now and only just reaching 20k usage...lol

have fun though guys, perhaps you should convert your cars to electric?....:)

Pete
 
PSH said:
I am seriously considering selling my 951, not just because of the bleak future but more because I find it so difficult to get in and out of the damn thing these days,

Pete


You'll be getting your bus pass soon anyway Pete. You'll be able to bore all the other bus w***ers with stories about when you owned a red Porsche :ROFLMAO:[;)].
 
blade7 said:
PSH said:
I am seriously considering selling my 951, not just because of the bleak future but more because I find it so difficult to get in and out of the damn thing these days,

Pete


You'll be getting your bus pass soon anyway Pete. You'll be able to bore all the other bus w***ers with stories about when you owned a red Porsche :ROFLMAO:[;)].



Haha.. you are so right.... living in London means I get my bus pass at 60, that's only 5 months away...gulp....:(
 
PSH said:
blade7 said:
PSH said:
I am seriously considering selling my 951, not just because of the bleak future but more because I find it so difficult to get in and out of the damn thing these days,

Pete


You'll be getting your bus pass soon anyway Pete. You'll be able to bore all the other bus w***ers with stories about when you owned a red Porsche :ROFLMAO:[;)].


Time to get out of Dodge mate. I'm looking at places in rural Lincolnshire now.

Haha.. you are so right.... living in London means I get my bus pass at 60, that's only 5 months away...gulp....:(


 
I've been looking for some time, my wife wants to wait until she retires which is fair enough
 
Would it not be better to put it away less thoroughly, and to drive it once a quarter or so?

I've managed to squeeze mine into the garage for winter this year (having failed to sell it), but I aim to drive it at least once a month (more if I can) until the weather warms up...
 
I'm really glad you decided to keep her and store her for a while. i'm not on here as much as I was but I still have my S2 ( also now tucked up for the winter ) and i don't think I will ever let her go . I had some fantastic runs over the summer including a two day sprint round the south of Scotland where she managed to keep up with newer Porsches ( the big fat Beetle type ) with no issues .
 
PSH said:
I love you guys and your optimism....10 years for an IC car on UK roads?? I reckon if they aren't completely outlawed by then that fuel will be something that gets delivered via post and costs more than aviation fuel... as for road tax?... yes I know they should be exempt but I very much doubt the government of the day will let that happen?

Pete


I would bet a large sum that in 10 years fuel will still be widely available (jet A1 is less than half the price of diesel per litre - avgas a little more but its 100 octane). No way we can all switch to electric -
Firstly :- the system cant produce enough power
Secondly :- the practicalities of charging 30 million cars a day or even a week would make it impossible. At least half of the current parking spaces would need a charger. how would that work where most people park?

There will be more hybrids as governments are pushing manufacturers that way, but hybrids still need fuel. (and I think lighter smaller cars would be a better solution for many)

Many people can only afford a 10 year old car.

Oil is used for many products other than fuel for travelling so in the future could diesel / petrol become a waste by-product?

I checked the other day where my nearest Tesla supercharger is ( An early model S for sale popped into my facebook feed at a price that made it almost interesting), my nearest one is 33miles away and there are not that many on routes I use frequently a 240v supply takes about 10 hours to charge one.

My cousin has a Nissan Leaf - already on longer journeys she has had issues with congested chargers at service stations and full electrics are relatively rare on motorway routes - she has also had issues with broken chargers. She is dedicated as she thinks she is saving the planet.

On the planet saving aspects I am far from convinced - however I would much rather have warming than cooling!

Tony

PS - good preparations Oli hope it rewards you when you get it out again - might be worth replacing the dessicant occasionally.







 
ah, but things are a-changing Tony, much faster than many would think..... we now have the ability to charge a car for 10 minutes giving a range of 200 miles, and then we have the latest battery giving a range of 1500 miles, a battery using a new electrolyte and made from recycled cans... that range would last some people a month. The same company is bringing out hybrid kits next year to convert petrol or diesel car, prices around £4.5k.. this is probably one of the fastest-growing sectors on the planet just now...what they have now won't be recognisable even in a couple of years time....as I said, 'things are a-changing'...:)

Pete
 
PSH said:
ah, but things are a-changing Tony, much faster than many would think..... we now have the ability to charge a car for 10 minutes giving a range of 200 miles, and then we have the latest battery giving a range of 1500 miles, a battery using a new electrolyte and made from recycled cans... that range would last some people a month. The same company is bringing out hybrid kits next year to convert petrol or diesel car, prices around £4.5k.. this is probably one of the fastest-growing sectors on the planet just now...what they have now won't be recognisable even in a couple of years time....as I said, 'things are a-changing'...:)

Pete
Rapid heating /cooling can reduce the damage to lithium ion batteries allowing theoretical 200 miles in 10 mins but how much current do you need to deliver for that? How thick will the cables have to be? How far would the grid need to updated to support multiples of cars doing that at once? The fact it is one of the fastest growing sectors means that people are working hard to attract development money - that also means people are making exaggerated claims. Costs will also have to come down and some of the materials required for electric cars are already scarce.

A maclaren 720s will do 0-100 in 5.0s it doesn't mean we have all swapped our 30 year old 944s for one, and if a 10 year old golf will get you to the shops and back why spend 30k on a leaf or £20k on a smaller Zoe that makes planning a trip of more than 100 miles an exercise in logistics.


Tony

 
944Turbo said:
PSH said:
ah, but things are a-changing Tony, much faster than many would think..... we now have the ability to charge a car for 10 minutes giving a range of 200 miles, and then we have the latest battery giving a range of 1500 miles, a battery using a new electrolyte and made from recycled cans... that range would last some people a month. The same company is bringing out hybrid kits next year to convert petrol or diesel car, prices around £4.5k.. this is probably one of the fastest-growing sectors on the planet just now...what they have now won't be recognisable even in a couple of years time....as I said, 'things are a-changing'...:)

Pete
Rapid heating /cooling can reduce the damage to lithium ion batteries allowing theoretical 200 miles in 10 mins but how much current do you need to deliver for that? How thick will the cables have to be? How far would the grid need to updated to support multiples of cars doing that at once? The fact it is one of the fastest growing sectors means that people are working hard to attract development money - that also means people are making exaggerated claims. Costs will also have to come down and some of the materials required for electric cars are already scarce.

A maclaren 720s will do 0-100 in 5.0s it doesn't mean we have all swapped our 30 year old 944s for one, and if a 10 year old golf will get you to the shops and back why spend 30k on a leaf or £20k on a smaller Zoe that makes planning a trip of more than 100 miles an exercise in logistics.


Tony


Who needs a Mclaren 720s when a guy who converted his beat up 944 could not only beat the Mclaren on the drag strip but beat it by a bigger margin than any other supercar has managed to date...again..as I said...things are a-changing.....:)

 
Standard Audi A3 1.6 £23,000
Audi A3 e-tron same trim level £32,000

9k buys an huge amount of unleaded,
 
PSH said:
Who needs a Mclaren 720s when a guy who converted his beat up 944 could not only beat the Mclaren on the drag strip but beat it by a bigger margin than any other supercar has managed to date...again..as I said...things are a-changing.....:)

over a 1/4mile - what about on a lap around the Nurburgring or a drive from London to Scotland. Electric cars instant torque makes them great drag racers especially if you can dump the whole contents of the batteries into a 3 second run!
Tony


 
Who knows...in other news today all private diesels are to be banned from Bristol city from 2021....
 

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