time for a new clutch- advise please!

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: peanut
don't worry oli you'll have 50 armchair mechanics here waiting to give you advice and support

Yeah, but what good is that, eh? A bunch of good armchair mechanics giving advice - what I want is a load of PORSCHE mechanics giving advice! Or, more specifically, PORSCHE 944 CLUTCH mechanics!

You'll be telling me how to re-upholster the arches on a nice Queen Anne chesterfield, when what I need to know is how to get the left-handed clutch lever arm spigot wangelflinget out!

Tsk! Forums eh? Can't get the members, can you ... >ShakesHeadInDisgust<


Oli.

 

[peanut]

oi wachit m8 you lookin fora smacinna marf ? yor takin dapis anya![]

 

[944Turbo]

It isnt that scary it all comes apart fairly logically, I would do mine again if required, but it is very time consuming and getting to the belhousing bolts is tricky. Lowering the transaxle might be tricky without a suitable jack, it has to be rotated a bit as it comes out (after removing fuel filter and lines which looked like they would never come undone) And obviously you have to disconnect the gear linkage on top and move it out the way. Torque tube needs to be spun through 180 degrees as it comes backwards, bell housing can be modded so that sensors can be spaced in situ before refiting. The earth on top of the bellhousing was a complete ********** I jacked the engine to improve access, may not be the same on an S2. Worth speaking to Simon Peckham or Jon about refurbing the fork shaft - they become very pitted from the bearings they run in. The plastic tube through the transaxle bell housing can also be a pain - mine had a nobble cut off which made it easier.
I would describe it as (very) time consuming and awkward rather than difficult.
I am pleased to have done it, but had lots of assistance to keep me at it. It took a long 2.5 days with a couple of side issues like having to replace the over axle fuel lines with proper flexis. There is a bit more in the way on a turbo though.

Tony

 

[JamesO]

" when I discussed it with him, and suggested I wouldn't be getting much change from a one-er if I was to ask him to do it.)

Yes, tub of waxoyl (or similar) will be on hand. Along with a new clutch and a bag of bits I am likely to brake. And a decent toolkit and a good friend. I hope ...

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Nick,

Nah - bliss would be having the cash to have the whole job done by my favourite indy, and something nice as a hire car to rag around while it's being done!

(Snag is, favourite indy described it as "a monster of a job" when I discussed it with him, and suggested I wouldn't be getting much change from a one-er if I was to ask him to do it.)

Yes, tub of waxoyl (or similar) will be on hand. Along with a new clutch and a bag of bits I am likely to brake. And a decent toolkit and a good friend. I hope ...

And, yes, I will do a full photorecord of the job. I fear it will be very frightening. Did I say I wasn't looking forward to it? []


Oli.

Its not that bad, did mine on my driveway with axle stands.
I found the hardest bit getting the gearbox back in using a jack and some blocks of wood, with a pit and a transmission stand should be easy.
You will need all new exhaust seals/hardware, rear main seal, clutch bolts, flywheel bolts and spigot bearing. (Wouldn't want to do it twice)
Might as well repack the cv joints too and maybe change the fuel filter.
Not sure about the s2 but I cut a notch in the bellhousing for the crank sensors to make future work easier and re-assembly easier.

 

[333pg333]

Just to digress, I would look around and see what is available in place of the exhaust. The stock one is very heavy and is very small internally after the downpipe. If you are doing even some mild upgrades this is a good one. Just not sure what's available in the UK but I would definitely make some enquiries.

 

[Indi9xx]

to do a clutch on a 944 (all of them)

Drop the exhaust (86 you drop the crossover pipe too)
drop the starter motor
Drop the transaxle
unbolt the torque tube from the bell housing at the front
rotate the torque tube through 90 degrees
pull the torque tube back (about a foot for good access.
unbolt the bell housing (after removing the flywheel sensors)
and.. ta da.. hello clutch!

Porsche book time is about 12 hours for the 87 on cars, 24 hours for the 86 cars.

Our record on a turbo is 6 man hours.

We still do fixed price clutch changes

Lots of odds and ends not mentioned because I am about to go home!

For the fuel lines, you need to drop the rear beam if your using expensive pucka Porsche ones.

Otherwise we do some lovely 4000 psi flexible sections which replace the part that rusts (from rear fuel line to behind the rear beam) which can be fitted without dropping the beam. Maximum fuel pressure seen by the hoses on a tuned 944 turbo is 4.5 bar or about 65 psi.

 

[pauly]

ORIGINAL: Indi9xx

Our record on a turbo is 6 man hours.

Get 5 mates round and you could do it in an hour then ?, [][][].

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I remember when my old mobile guy did Andy Mais' clutch. Side of the road, jack and axle stands, miserable weather. Took 5 hours all in IIRC, and people moaned that he was expensive at £40 per hour.....[8|]

 

[jackregan]

At the side of the road! Good on him, who needs garages lol

 

[zcacogp]

Flip me! Got his number, Paul?

I'd pay him £200 for that ...


Oli.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Flip me! Got his number, Paul?

I'd pay him £200 for that ...


Oli.

Sadly no - he's semi-retired and lives on the IOW. Real pain, as he was based near me and came out at a moment's notice.

 

[peanut]

what are the property prices like in the IOW ? []

 

[nicholaswgmay]

Thank you to everyone who posted usefull advice on this thread, much appreciated.

In conclusion; anyone want to buy a 944turbo with a slightly slipping clutch... go on think how much money can be saved on rear tyre wear!

Nick