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Why such little difference in Price between 964RS M002 (Carpet) & M003/1 N-GT/CUP

As much as I hate to agree with Des on anything... I had been thinking that Cup cars had been a bit left behind. But to be honest, race/track cars have been struggling more at auction than road cars recently IMHO so there is something in people just wanting an investment, while people perhaps don't have the cash flow to wedge out for entry fees, transport and tyres etc each time they use their car.
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Rick
 
True Rick, motorsport if you are competing seriously would be expensive but just look at the beardies that turn up in their historic Fezzas, Astons, Jags, Pre-73 911, who rag them head to head. We are in a rich mans sport here where cash is not an issue.

Thus the attraction of a economic 90's racer will appeal and yes there are the rare garage queens and non racers who will buy to do track days and show and shine.

Having now looked in Europe the difference in value would seem a lot greater than I thought.
 

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Having now looked in Europe the difference in value would seem a lot greater than I thought.
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You will hardly find a good Cup car or N-GT in Europe. Most of them are mongrels and have a tendency of being rubbish. If you find a good one, it´ll be expensive. Ande Votteler (German dealer) has a virgin monkey bum Cup car (if he still has it) for top money.

Cup cars on offer for 50k EURO, which appear from time to time, are normally far away from a Cup car.
 
I know of an excellent one that will be for sale soon, I think. It is an iconic 993 though. [;)]

The owner want to go to Group C, maybe.
 
Unless it's a very special original cup car with good Cup race provenance then I think good carpets will continue to outdo them in the future.

There was a small premium on them when carpets were relatively 'cheap' compared to today as they were a good alternative for the occasional racer/serious track day enthusiast. But now prices are so much higher for carpets they don't look like such value anymore for what a lot of them are.

Special cars will command special prices. But like Hacki says an average Cup will not do as well as an average carpet going forward...
 
Tend to agree and disagree a tad Jason... am feeling some of the road cars are a bit "fully priced" and while inflation will probably help everything higher over the coming years, there could be a boost to the cup cars if they become eligible for a decent historic Championship.
The only problem with that of course is that the historic Championships AREN'T extending their cut-off dates for the logical reason that they will just upset those customers who have competitive cars that would immediately be obsolete.
So you'd need a new Championship to a) get off the ground and b) become "desirable" to the point where real money would get involved. And we are talking about at least a 10yr hold until then I'd guess when you might be better off buying Ur-Quattro's and Ford Sierra Cossies that are just beginning to sneak into eligibility for stuff.

In agreement, the "Carpets" are just so much more usable for Tours etc that people really want to do these days so I can see them holding their bid if nothing else.

All IMHO of course.

Rick
 
Agree Rick and it's all hypothetical of course.

Still the advice of buy the best car you can for your budget and needs is sensible imho.

Buying for investment or simply to try and turn a profit is always going to be luck more than great judgement at the moment I suspect....especially the way prices have already risen in the classic car market.
 
Seriously I think NG-T and Cups are destined for the breakers yard, Douglas Valley will be full of them come Summer ... does not really MATTER:ROFLMAO:
 
So when you picking up the yellow car then? [;)][;)]

I guess it will straddle both Registers too....like all the best cars do [:D][:D]
 
Ah yes! - thanks, stunning car, although I would keep it as its original in period spec, i.e. 3.3 Turbo motor, not make it an RSR rep. I'm sure I've got video of this car at the ring.

Having said that I'm sure these days as a decent RSR rep (and it could be) its probably quite a good proposition too.

 
Interesting dilemma ... I think keeping the Turbo S motor as it was originally built by Alzen for a wealthy customer in 1993 after the finish of the Cup series is the only WAY forward. It is and never will be an RSR. Original Cup Chassis is more the car's heritage .... no doubt at the time Alzen and customer went the lazy 3,3 Turbo 360 BHP as opposed to the 3.8 375 BHP RSR 10 hour life route.
 
I think you are right Des, keep it original (as in how it was built in period with a 3.3T engine). lovely motor!
 
One for your scrapbook Des.....complete with a 964RS celebrity in the passenger seat! [:D]

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