I have started a new thread on this, as I didnt want to hijack the other one, well more than I already have !
To all those who are interested in the whole V8 into 944 idea read on... to those that are rivet counters and think that a V8 in a 944 is the work of the devil.....well read on anyway!
We have been talking about this conversion for a couple of years now - basically its transplanting a 6.0 Litre LS2 V8 engine, as found in the Vauxhall Monaro into a 944 Turbo.
We bought a renegade hybrids "kit", threw half of it in the skip, and made the rest work. The problems were that of making it right hand drive, keeping the air con, keeping the PAS, and keeping a brake servo.
To that end, we used a scrap 944 turbo, and put the bits in. Its a non running mock up, but proves on the whole the conversion can be done - with a degree of sympathy to the car. We like to make things look like they should of been there!
So, down to the nitty gritty. The LS2 is a simple engine, and very capable. We have been tuning to various levels Vauxhall Monaros and Pontiac GTO (US derivative) since they were new. In terms of reliability, we tuned new cars
from 2004 - we have a lot of customers that have done in excess of 60k miles with no issues, and a few that have topped 100,000 miles, still with no issues.
Thats from mild tuning such as an exhaust and remap, to cam changes and forged internals with superchargers. Those who have been to see us will have seen a car park strewn with Monaros - we have seen and worked on well over two thirds of the cars imported.
So, reliability will not be an issue - in the 944 we would run a mild cam and expect around 450bhp. At that power level the engine will go on forever - reliability is key with a project like this .
We can introduce torque management into the PCM (ECU), meaning that the drivetrain can have less stress low down.
The 944 would retain the factory LSD gearbox and drivetrain, weight distribution is almost the same as the 944. with a very slight increase in weight to the front.
In terms of price, thats a tricky one. We would not do the first one on a customers car - there is always the possibility of a problem that cannot be solved, and we will not "develop" the project on someones car, with the inevitable outcome of keeping the car for months or years at a time.
We would supply the conversion in a car, as a finished MOT`d and taxed car. We would include the car in the price, it would be a 1989 ish M030 model, we have a few (three at present) available from stock. After we have done the first one, and proved the conversion as reliable and fun, we could then price for converting a customers car.
Finally the price, £19,995 will buy you a 1989 ish 944 Turbo, with a 6.0 Litre engine pushing 450 bhp. Thats the first one only. Finshed, with an MOT, road tax, inc vat. No risk on your part, if it doesnt work and cannot be done,
then thats that, but we are more than confident that it can be done, having done most of the development work already.
It will be an awesome car - on track or off!
To all those who are interested in the whole V8 into 944 idea read on... to those that are rivet counters and think that a V8 in a 944 is the work of the devil.....well read on anyway!
We have been talking about this conversion for a couple of years now - basically its transplanting a 6.0 Litre LS2 V8 engine, as found in the Vauxhall Monaro into a 944 Turbo.
We bought a renegade hybrids "kit", threw half of it in the skip, and made the rest work. The problems were that of making it right hand drive, keeping the air con, keeping the PAS, and keeping a brake servo.
To that end, we used a scrap 944 turbo, and put the bits in. Its a non running mock up, but proves on the whole the conversion can be done - with a degree of sympathy to the car. We like to make things look like they should of been there!
So, down to the nitty gritty. The LS2 is a simple engine, and very capable. We have been tuning to various levels Vauxhall Monaros and Pontiac GTO (US derivative) since they were new. In terms of reliability, we tuned new cars
from 2004 - we have a lot of customers that have done in excess of 60k miles with no issues, and a few that have topped 100,000 miles, still with no issues.
Thats from mild tuning such as an exhaust and remap, to cam changes and forged internals with superchargers. Those who have been to see us will have seen a car park strewn with Monaros - we have seen and worked on well over two thirds of the cars imported.
So, reliability will not be an issue - in the 944 we would run a mild cam and expect around 450bhp. At that power level the engine will go on forever - reliability is key with a project like this .
We can introduce torque management into the PCM (ECU), meaning that the drivetrain can have less stress low down.
The 944 would retain the factory LSD gearbox and drivetrain, weight distribution is almost the same as the 944. with a very slight increase in weight to the front.
In terms of price, thats a tricky one. We would not do the first one on a customers car - there is always the possibility of a problem that cannot be solved, and we will not "develop" the project on someones car, with the inevitable outcome of keeping the car for months or years at a time.
We would supply the conversion in a car, as a finished MOT`d and taxed car. We would include the car in the price, it would be a 1989 ish M030 model, we have a few (three at present) available from stock. After we have done the first one, and proved the conversion as reliable and fun, we could then price for converting a customers car.
Finally the price, £19,995 will buy you a 1989 ish 944 Turbo, with a 6.0 Litre engine pushing 450 bhp. Thats the first one only. Finshed, with an MOT, road tax, inc vat. No risk on your part, if it doesnt work and cannot be done,
then thats that, but we are more than confident that it can be done, having done most of the development work already.
It will be an awesome car - on track or off!
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