So the best combination has to be a 968 engine coupled to a 5 speed box in a lightweight 944 shell... now why would I say that!!! [] MickORIGINAL: MarkK 968-great engine,sucky fragile gearbox!
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simkin911
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Fixed that for you with a minor adjustment!ORIGINAL: Swindon_MickSo the best combination has to be a 968 engine coupled to a 5 speed box in a lightweight 924 cgt rep shell... now why would I say that!!! [] MickORIGINAL: MarkK 968-great engine,sucky fragile gearbox!
There have been a few of those built and they have been, by all accounts, superbly capable machines. If I had a garage and a bit more spare time I'd be quite tempted to build one. Oli.So the best combination has to be a 968 engine coupled to a 5 speed box in a lightweight 924 cgt rep shell... now why would I say that!!! []
Neil Haughey
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He doesn't seem to post on here any more but the midlands one you would have all seen in the past was about 250 Bhp/tonne as it had that tweaked 968 engine in a lightweight cgt replica body that weighed no more than 1000 Kg, may have been lighter Be careful though with the fibreglass, I could save a lot of weight off my race car with stuff like fibreglass doors and rear quarters or quarter sections such as 944 widebody, cgt, le mans etc. kits but all of this is replacing steel which is welded to the structure and contributes to the crash worthyness with fibreglass.
Neil Haughey
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Having said that my temptation to keep my car long term involves turning it into a 944 turbo wide body track car so the rear arches would get hacked apart a bit. I quite fancy 300 Bhp/tonne rather than 180 []
edh
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Nick Ashby has it now - I've seen it at a couple of trackdays. It was at our Bedford day in 2013 I'd prefer a 968 motor in a "sleeper" 924S body.ORIGINAL: simkin911 I was thinking about the car owned by ? Lali when I wrote my comment - not sure where it is now but it was a cracker!
Ex Skyline
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You need a Saxo or, Corsa Oli [].ORIGINAL: zcacogp... and, in all seriousness, I'm not a great driver which may explain why I am also irrationally in love with my S2! Oli.ORIGINAL: Shark Another analogy - The wife could drive an S2 or a 968 but she'd struggle with a Turbo
Git! [&:] Oli.ORIGINAL: Ex Skyline You need a Saxo or, Corsa Oli [].
Frenchy
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Although mine spends most of it's life in the garage especially over winter, it is very rare more than 2 weeks pass and it has a minimum 10 mile run just to keep evrything happy, i would never pay a fortune for a long term laid up car way too much attention to the mechanicals and possibly bodyshell if not stored correctly. I leave my car in my other garage and the brake discs are still nice and shiny when i go back to it (dry garage)
Well my 944 is a stored over Winter, 67k on the clock garage queen that is rarely used , but it's had 3 belt changes in under two years, a water pump, cam chain and slipper, brakes stripped, new fogs, new clutch master, new clutch slave, new clutch pipe, fuel filter, oil filter, oil, air filter, alternator belt, idlers, tensioner, fuel hoses etc etc , all precautionary maintenance, never through fault or failure. Not all garage queens or low mileage cars have deferred maintenance waiting to catch the unwary purchaser, a lot of my annual mileage has been to Hartech and back. Just to explain the belt changes No 1 was carried out by the previous owner in November 2012 at GT One a few weeks before I purchased. No 2 was carried out by Hartech in March 2013 at my request as part of a major Gold service and vehicle inspection. No 3 was carried out by Hartech in March 2014 again at my request as they had been removed to carry out a precautionary water pump change and I am ever cautious of re-using belts even considering the very minimal mileage the car had covered. Like my good friend Frenchy I keep my car on a battery conditioner, I have a dehumidifier in my garage over Winter even though it's nice and dry, I also start the car and let it warm through thoroughly every 3 - 4 weeks, it fires with ease and not even a hint of tappet rattle. I hope the next owner appreciates my diligence . All the best, Paul
I'd love to race that combination. Pity I cant. Although I wonder if I'd be alloed to race it in the Special Saloons and Modsports series?ORIGINAL: edh I'd prefer a 968 motor in a "sleeper" 924S body.
MartinRS2K
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Same for me, all 3 cars are in a dry garage with a Ebac dehumidifier running on Auto setting all the time and connected to Ctek MXS5 battery chargers/reconditioners. I haven't started them for 5-6 weeks but they will get a start up and warm through in the next 2 weeks with a short run to keep things turning. The 944's will be getting another coat of Dinitrol sprayed into the arches and sills and a good lashing of grease will be put on all visible unions and joints to protect them from water when they are back on the road. I also remove all the wheels in turn from each car over the winter and check brakes etc. A couple of coats of wax will be applied to help protect the paintwork and I also put a coat on the wheels when they are off the cars. Come March/April they will be taken for an MOT and an oil/filter service with a check over at the same time. Any jobs required will be done before they go on the road. Some say it's anal, I think it's taking pride in my cars and doing preventative jobs to protect them in the long term []
I think it comes down to how you get your kicks... I now have a car with only 30k miles, as well as one with over 300k miles. Neither are, nor will be for sale if I have my way, so value is academic. The 300+k car has cost me I think k it is about £47k now over the past few years... That is all in, petrol, insurance, but I have maintained it myself, so no labour. Not a very good investment, but hasn't it ever given me some fun. But so has the low mileage car, it has cost me next to nothing in maintenance, but probably one of the more expensive cars I have owned. (the 300k one, in cost per mile, one of the cheapest). So now as well as those that like to drive them, and those that like to polish them, we also have a group that like to watch the value go up... Something tells me that even for them it is a hobby in which they are kidding themselves they are "good value", as maintaining condition will far exceed the increase in value over time. I have yet to see any exceed original purchase price plus the cost of regular servicing, so hardly a good "investment"... It is, I guess a double-edged sword for the rest of us... We could use it to "justify" our expensive hobby (I cannot deny a Polo diesel would have been a lot cheaper than 300k in my 944), but only if we plan on selling one day, but also means perhaps they aren't so expendable to enjoy quite a recklessly as we might have been able to until more recently. He says having just carried double-doors home on the roof-rack on mine![]
pauljmcnulty
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I'd say it was only basic common sense! [&:]Some say it's anal, I think it's taking pride in my cars and doing preventative jobs to protect them in the long term
ORIGINAL: trefNow that's what it's all aboutHe says having just carried double-doors home on the roof-rack on mine!
MarkK
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As i have mentioned before,i am glad the values are going the right way not because I consider a 944 to be any form of investment,it's just nice that the cars I am so fond of are being recognised at last as a bit special,the bills do add up when the cars are maintained properly,and it just feels nicer when you swipe the visa card that the car is becoming more solid in value.Not that I intend to sell them any time soon touch wood. My cars don't do massive miles but I rotate them and bring them out of the garage where it is heated,bone dry and on conditioners and press them into service and do some miles,I trip down to Cornwall for example.When a car is stored correctly,maintained correctly they will last and work superbly,I don't agree with the low miles cars self destruct theory at all,if it's done the right way.
pauljmcnulty
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I agree, but most cars aren't pampered like the examples on this thread. I think the issue is twofold. Firstly, all cars that are sold as "low miles" have had long periods of non-use: that's obvious. Non-use sitting in a heated garage and being warmed up every few weeks is different from being left on the drive for 10 years then given a machine-polish! Secondly, servicing does tend to be neglected on low mileage cars sometimes. We've all seen 944s for sale where they've done a couple of thousand miles since a belt change, but that was over ten years ago. We see S2s that have never had a water pump or timing chain, tyres that have tread but are cracking, original clutches where the centre breaks up as soon as it's driven regularly again, that sort of thing. Parts do age, even in a heated garage, so things will need replacing sometimes. You can't say low mileage is better or worse than high mileage: it has to be down to the individual car. What I would say is that, if you are starting a restoration project, a low-miler will have more chance of a better value when you've finished it. Just as a turbo will over a Lux.I don't agree with the low miles cars self destruct theory at all,if it's done the right way.
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