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964 RSR For Sale ... ?



To be honest I am not that bothered, the car will stay "standard". It has the Alzen new build number JA0010000000965T2 build number 1. They converted and sold all their 964 Cups. I know what the car is BUILT ON a Carrera 2 Cup Car. Not just any Cup Car but Jurgen Alzen Motorsport Cup Car built by the team to what it is today, this is important, a 1992 build following the 92 season in which Uwe won the championship. Both Cup Cars were made street legal for customers to pay for the 1993 SuperCup Car. They could not sell a 964 Raced Cup Car they were worthless. Mine commissioned by a customer to 965Turbo DP Motorsport spec engine and G50/50 gearbox, with factory steel RSR Wings.

Rick could be right and the car is a reshell, thus no chassis number, not uncommon on a race car ask a few owners here. Some teams would start only with a shell and recreate a Cup/RSR/N-GT. Would imagine the important thing here is ,as Rick says, what did the shell start life as. So a Cup Car on a Cup Car shell, RSR on a RSR shell, N-GT Clubsport on a Clubsport N-GT Shell. I can see where Rick is with the VIN as an original street N-GT, Clubsport, I hope he is successful in uniting them. All be it without the original engine etc ... Interesting the Turbo route was chosen on these cars, guess with no FiA regulations, was a no brainer.

So happy with what I have, without any doubt a Cup Car chassis, built by the original race team from their own race car into a customer street legal racer!
 
So no shell number? That's a shame as it looks like what Rick has found out you could have at least linked it back to the VIN and then got some cool history probably.

Ohhhh to have a car with a Porsche VIN! LOL. I don't think they are that important anyway, on race cars for sure....had long chat with Paul H this week and he reckons there is over a dozen of the most famous race 993GT2's that don't have one and never did.

At least you can drive yours on the road!

Nice thing with these cars is you are always finding stuff out on them, maybe because we look into them a bit more than a standard car? This week Mr McLean told me my engine has some uber rare Motorsport mods such as modified oil return tubes and Porsche 959 oil pump and scavenge take off together with the RSR ADAC exhaust system. Which was nice. If only I could drive the bloody thing like it deserves to be driven.... :(
 

ORIGINAL: jason

So no shell number? That's a shame as it looks like what Rick has found out you could have at least linked it back to the VIN and then got some cool history probably.

Ohhhh to have a car with a Porsche VIN! LOL. I don't think they are that important anyway, on race cars for sure....had long chat with Paul H this week and he reckons there is over a dozen of the most famous race 993GT2's that don't have one and never did.

At least you can drive yours on the road!

Nice thing with these cars is you are always finding stuff out on them, maybe because we look into them a bit more than a standard car? This week Mr McLean told me my engine has some uber rare Motorsport mods such as modified oil return tubes and Porsche 959 oil pump and scavenge take off together with the RSR ADAC exhaust system. Which was nice. If only I could drive the bloody thing like it deserves to be driven.... :(
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Jason it has a shell number, let's move on ....

Indeed Race Cars did not ALL have VINS, particularly reshelled cars or straight race team builds which were common with the early pre water pumper 911 .....
 

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

Jason it has a shell number
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ORIGINAL: carreraboy

Rick could be right and the car is a reshell, thus no chassis number, not uncommon on a race car ask a few owners here.
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If you have the shell number you should be able to ascertain if it's a reshell or not?? The shell number itself will help you identify this?

Shell numbers for spare shells sold to the race teams are not in the same order as the original factory produced cars. They were given different production numbers.

Mine starts 043 if that helps [:)]
 
Thanks Jason ... the 0 being a shell and a 1 being a car? the last number denotes the year? The middle bit model, i.e. Cup, RSR Clubbie etc .... ?
 
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