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964 RSR For Sale ... ?

Really nice 73RS at 300k euro and 73RSR at 500k euro are long gone!!!

Double it and you might be slightly closer...
 
Well they are coming out of the dark corners...
Hexagon Classics claiming they've got a 3.8 RS arriving at their showroom right now... love to know what they are going to ask for it because u can be sure the seller just saw the auction and thought it's time to take profit...
 
Unless of course they were the buyers from the auction that won the 3.8 RS, so the same car.
 
Hexagon also quote;

Hexagon Classics "Our RS has loads of history - we would be surprised if there many if any 1 owner examples available for sale today".

One owner, as was the silver car from Bonhams......as PaulMc-RSR says, it all seems to add up?
 
It will be interesting to see if that hangs around the showroom...?

The car looks incredible in the photos, the rear aspect with the arches and the extra wide alloys.

I'm not in a position to buy, but I am not keen on road spec cars with engine lid & luggage pins drilled and fitted, unless the car has a decent race heritage to back that up.
 
Apparently the pins front and rear are the legacy of a couple of shunts on the track according to Tom... also early engine rebuild in it's life... def. no virgin this one.
Astonishing to me that the dealer thinks he's got big enough mugs for clients that someone is going to walk in and buy that without doing some research. Also impressed that he's put a 50% mark-up on his cost price... more front than Blackpool.
But hey, if it sells, he's single-handedly repriced the market, which makes us owners smile!
But personally I think he's a total clown who's done no research himself... but there we go. We'll see...
 
Dscboy. I thought yours was a spare shell with a Turbo lump?

How on earth do value a car like that?

Surely some of the premium of the silver 3.8RS is down to the "implied" togetherness of factory build and matching shell and engine numbers etc....?
 
Rick you got any more pics of your car now it's been stripped and repainted?

Are you keeping that rather 'loud' leather interior or are you going to strip it out and put in a proper clubsport interior now?

Actually I can't remember was your shell a standard RS one or the Clubsport one?



EDIT: Found your post last time I asked (I can never remember what happened it seems lol!!)


ORIGINAL: DSCBoy

Right, long story short...
My car started out as one of the 7 * 3.8 RS Clubsports known to have been built.
Original owner had a 3.8 RSR built up from a factory shell and decided he wanted to road register that after a heavy rear-end impact that broke the motor put him off any more track days.
In order to do so he removed the engine and the VIN from mine, replacing my motor with a Turbo Technic Pietz (Gemballa) biturbo based on motor out of a 993 C4S and the VIN from a very early 964 RS C/S (#030).

I've now managed to confirm the shell number on the rear parcel shelf of mine does indeed match the build number of the 3.8 RS C/S (#117) so the above story would appear to be true.

Still investigating what rights I have to the original VIN, but as you will all know there are plenty of historic cars out there that have identical VINs on them and I'm guessing that my car has as much or more rights to the number than a car that only has the engine of the original car?

As I said, if I can pick up a nice 3.8 RS motor and original rear wing/ front splitter I will do so. But I think the history of the "Infineon" is sort of special in it's own right so I'm not going to muck with it for now.

Paul, you're an expert on these things, I assume there's not much difference between a 3.8 RS and a RSR motor?

Cheers
Rick
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So do you know if your VIN is out there on another car still and with your engine?

Can you not get someone to do a search on this....if it's in Germany they have logs of the VIN's with police etc....I know as I got stopped last time I was there and they did a check on it!

Let's see the pics...
 
Mines a Clubsport RS 3.8 with the wrong engine/ gearbox. VIN was taken for another car but is being discussed currently as under much of European law that was an illegal act. Either way my car has been identified by the shell number as the real deal and will be identified as such in the upcoming book which is nice!
Will dig out some photos of her right now...

http://imageshack.com/a/img593/3808/0s5d.jpg


Cheers
 
????????

My car is complete Des bar engine/gearbox. It's a full clubsport car, so the cage is integral. It's not a cup car.

Good to hear you've managed to related your shell number to a real Cup VIN already Des! Really thought you'd struggle with that... let us know how you've done it?
Cheers
 
Well it's true they built 55... but pretty much everything else they say in this video is rubbish!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwOhargnREs

"One fastidious owner" who only shunted it twice and buzzed the motor once....

"We believe it to have been the last built" apart from the nearly 20 cars built after it... hmm...

Interestingly, mine was the last clubsport built.
 
Rick....let it go. It's not yours so don't worry about it. You're getting far too stressed over one car...it won't be the last dealer to get lots of things wrong in an advert![:D][:D]

Plus they may be only reiterating what they actually know...
 

ORIGINAL: RSGulp


ORIGINAL: carreraboy

Cool Rick, my shell number is also a genuine Cup Car.
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You found a shell number?
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yep Rich it is what it is .... but like Ricks missing the engine and gearbox and gone Turbo route .....

Forgive me Rick, I thought your car was not caged, I stand corrected.
 
So have you found a shell number Des? I remember a long conversation at Goodwood about the shell number possibly being ground away on the rear shelf. Have you found one elsewhere or is it on the rear shelf under the paint? Would be worth asking Rick for contacts at the factory if you have.
 
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