991 Turbo PDK Only

[flat6]

Just curious but, is there any downside to Power Steering Plus i.e. is there any reason why someone would not want it. Just seems strange for them to develop 2 different versions of power steering, for one to probably be left on the shelf in many cases. As they're 'only' charging £178 for it, they might as well throw it on a car like this as standard, even if they adjust the price accordingly. That would more cover the cost of developing the Power Steering Plus, rather than hoping enough people upgrade to it.

Am I missing something?

 

[fireblade]

ORIGINAL: sidicks

ORIGINAL: fireblade

Sorry Alan, not sure what the above means!

Cheers

Michael

You can have 'Turbo' or 'Turbo S' written on the door sills in black or silver!

Yes, got that but thought that this was Alan being devious!

Cheers

 

[fireblade]

ORIGINAL: flat6

Just curious but, is there any downside to Power Steering Plus i.e. is there any reason why someone would not want it. Just seems strange for them to develop 2 different versions of power steering, for one to probably be left on the shelf in many cases. As they're 'only' charging £178 for it, they might as well throw it on a car like this as standard, even if they adjust the price accordingly. That would more cover the cost of developing the Power Steering Plus, rather than hoping enough people upgrade to it.

Am I missing something?

Yes I had wondered what this does apart from the obvious. To keep within budget I left it out.

Does anyone have experience of it and is it worth it? I would rather have the rear wiper.

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: fireblade

ORIGINAL: sidicks

ORIGINAL: fireblade

Sorry Alan, not sure what the above means!

Cheers

Michael

You can have 'Turbo' or 'Turbo S' written on the door sills in black or silver!

Yes, got that but thought that this was Alan being devious!

Cheers

Only that, personally, I wouldn't have something like this on the side of mine![]

 

[tscaptain]

Although I must confess the one Porsche have in mind is rather less shouty![]

 

[fireblade]

ORIGINAL: tscaptain

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ORIGINAL: sidicks

ORIGINAL: fireblade

Sorry Alan, not sure what the above means!

Cheers

Michael

You can have 'Turbo' or 'Turbo S' written on the door sills in black or silver!

Yes, got that but thought that this was Alan being devious!

Cheers

Only that, personally, I wouldn't have something like this on the side of mine![]

Alan, yours is Red, isn't thta eye catching enough!

I had something like that in white on my Red MG midget plus black painted wheels and red brake drums in the very late sixties but I kept getting "stop checked" by the police. Bought a green MGB no adornments and the harassment stopped!

Cheers

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: tscaptain

and it's all done in the best possible taste!

 

[tscaptain]

I can improve that..[]

 

[tscaptain]

I can improve on that....[]

 

[flat6]

Do you mind! I've just bought that car![]

Not really

The inside probably looks like this[]

 

[garyw]

Well I've finally been contacted by my dealer regarding my deposit []
Might have to spend some time on the configurator... although liking the spec's already put here...

Mind you a discussion with the Mrs first... deliveries from possibly October- I always seem to end up with winter cars [&:] although with no factory collection it's not that much of an issue this time round.

edit .. £146K [][]

 

[Dylan1]

has the mclaren itch been scratched sufficiently gary?

 

[garyw]

not even the surface yet [] just browsing...

 

[Lancerlot]

One or two on the underside though, I wager! []

Regards,

Clive

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: sidicks

The Turbo / Turbo S will undoubtedly be an amazing car, but I'm left a bit cold on the looks (certainly compared to the GT3) and the performance on offer, whilst still incredible, doesn't appear to take things beyond the old Turbo S. However, i might well be proved wrong!

My plans to trade out of a GT3 into a Turbo S after around 18 months might therefore be changing! This would allow me a longer ownership period with the GT3 (learn to drive it properly), probably reduce the average depreciation cost a bit, allow me to have a proper drive in a Turbo S and then consider a change when the facelift comes out...!


Sidicks

Hi Simon. Please take my comments as a discussion point rather than a challenge of your personal choice but, I think from a looks perspective, the 991 GT3 and turbo are pretty much as expected. The GT3 looking like a menacing race car and the turbo looking like a discreet cruise missile. With regards to performance, its also not surprising to me that the GT3 is taking a bigger leap forward. Through the 997 development, the turbo had a lot of new tech thrown at it - too many to name, but PDK being one of them. The GT3 'stood still' (too strong a term I know) a bit e.g. having manual only was a bit behind the times. With PDK, 4 wheel steer etc, the GT3 is taking a bigger leap forward in tech and no doubt a bigger leap forward in performance. If the 997 GT3 RS 4.0 had just PDK added to it's arsenal, the new 991 GT3 launch times and Nurburgring lap times may also appear not to move the game on much either.

On the turbo charged side of things, it will be interesting to see what the next GT2 produces in terms of performance, assuming it gets a DFI engine which will unlock PDK etc. etc. The 991 turbo cannot defy the laws of physics within it's design envelope (as a luxury GT rocketship and associated weight) and so I expect the performance increments will be small over short distances (and brutally tyre shredding over longer ones[] )

 

[sidicks]

ORIGINAL: flat6
Please take my comments as a discussion point rather than a challenge of your personal choice but, I think from a looks perspective, the 991 GT3 and turbo are pretty much as expected. The GT3 looking like a menacing race car and the turbo looking like a discreet cruise missile. With regards to performance, its also not surprising to me that the GT3 is taking a bigger leap forward. Through the 997 development, the turbo had a lot of new tech thrown at it - too many to name, but PDK being one of them. The GT3 'stood still' (too strong a term I know) a bit e.g. having manual only was a bit behind the times. With PDK, 4 wheel steer etc, the GT3 is taking a bigger leap forward in tech and no doubt a bigger leap forward in performance. If the 997 GT3 RS 4.0 had just PDK added to it's arsenal, the new 991 GT3 launch times and Nurburgring lap times may also appear not to move the game on much either.

I find it hard to disagree with anything you've said, and certainly am not offended by your 'challenge'.

I guess I've surprised myself as I while I've always admired the GT3, I've always thought of myself as more of a 'Turbo' person. Yet currently with the 991 I'm thinking the opposite!

Maybe once I've owned the GT3 I'll realise I'm a Turbo person after all! Shame I can't afford both, really!

Sidicks

 

[flat6]

No doubt the new GT3 will be the easiest to live with to date and you won't be the only one switching attention from turbo to GT3.

You lucky man![]

 

[SteveJC]

I had been looking at changing my 2011 turbo S for a couple of months now, originally I had decided I didn't want another Turbo and fancied a C4S but when I saw the GT3 it got me thinking.
I specked a GT3 up and it came in as near as anything to £114K, not bad I thought.

When my car was due for its first service a couple of weeks ago I requested a C4S for a loan car for the day, on the due day it was there waiting, finished in white with PSE and Sport Chrono, what a day, loved the car, the noise the drama even the sat nav, even my wife liked it. Again specked the C4S up and it came in at an astonishing £108K and I could have added a bit more.
Then the new Turbo was announced, which for a short while put the cat amongst the pigeons, the Turbo S with a few bits added comes in at £144K.

Cars as specked for me all rounded up or down to nearest full K.
------------------ Base----------------------------- For Me----------------- 2 Years old with 10K miles ???
GT3--------------100K------------------------------114K-------------------------90K?
C4S----------------88K------------------------------108K-------------------------65K?
Turbo S----------140K------------------------------144K--------------------------95K?
Other peoples thoughts on 2 year resale?.
After all this, I got back into my own car following the service and realized mine was still superior, all but the noise, so my decision at the moment, I will be keeping the Turbo S but for how long I don't know.
What I do know is the GT3 looks good and on paper is probably be the better deal.

Steve

 

[Lancerlot]

Interesting post Steve and definitely the right decision.

I think you eventually would envy the sheer exhilaration of the turbo grunt if you bought a GT3 and of course you would also miss us all in the 997 Register! []

Congratulations on a well thought out process. (You know it makes sense! []

Regards,

Clive.

PS. Your 2 year residual predictions look optimistic to me. [&:]

 

[pwebb]

Come on Steve, you know you want to... a GT3 would suit you sir. (not sure Helen would agree mind you)