991 Turbo PDK Only
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Peter
For once Helen liked the GT3, well almost, the rear spoiler created a bit of face pulling but she even accepted the colour I had chosen ( yellow ).
At the moment, like a lot of people, I am trying to let my head rule my heart, I don't need a new one, I don't need a new one, I don't need a new one, I've only done 9k in 2 years.
Steve
For once Helen liked the GT3, well almost, the rear spoiler created a bit of face pulling but she even accepted the colour I had chosen ( yellow ).
At the moment, like a lot of people, I am trying to let my head rule my heart, I don't need a new one, I don't need a new one, I don't need a new one, I've only done 9k in 2 years.
Steve
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Come on Steve, you know you want to... a GT3 would suit you sir. (not sure Helen would agree mind you)
I thought it was £1 per mile or £1000 per month, whatever is greatest. So 2 years would be £24k loss. Minus any options of course as they lose their value instantly they leave the factory.
Mind you. I have also heard 15% loss year 1, 10% loss year 2. So on a £140k Turbo S that would be £33k loss over 2 years, taking down to £107k.
Depends if you're talking about trade-in value or outright sale.
There's a McLaren M4-12C in Exeter same colour as Gary's, 2011 4K miles plenty of carbon. Lists @ £203K on sale now @ £142K. That's a drop of nearly 3½ grand a month or £14.5 per mile at the asking price.
Recently a member's Turbo S sold showing a drop of £2½K per month or £3.65 per mile. So you may need to rethink your criteria. [8|]
Regards,
Clive.
There's a McLaren M4-12C in Exeter same colour as Gary's, 2011 4K miles plenty of carbon. Lists @ £203K on sale now @ £142K. That's a drop of nearly 3½ grand a month or £14.5 per mile at the asking price.
Recently a member's Turbo S sold showing a drop of £2½K per month or £3.65 per mile. So you may need to rethink your criteria. [8|]
Regards,
Clive.
Ah, so a two year 12C is in new 991 turbo S territory.....I think claims that it (991 turbo S) is getting close to Ferrari/Mclaren/Lambo price levels is a little exaggerated then?
I reckon, optimistically, that mine has dropped about £1.3k per month or £2 per mile - for what that's worth![
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Well just to bring a degree of fact to this debate my 2 yr old Turbo S cab is only worth low £80's to a dealer as a trade in despite the fact they are advertised on the Porsche website for up to £100k. So much for a £7K margin
So on Alex basis give me £90K and you have a bargain !!!!
Geoff
What would make me move to the 991 turbo would be if it provdes a better ride on UK roads. 80% of my miles have been in Germany where it feels better suited to the roads compared to the bone-jarring nose-bobbing ride over here plus of course I can enjoy - when the conditions are right - the dark side beyond 150mph.
That is one area where the 991 is a significant improvement, the tyre noise that has plagued the 996/7 is much reduced, so you can hear the exhaust instead [
] and the bobbing front end has gone because of the change in wheelbase and the front wheels being further forward. I expect the TT will follow this trend.
Porsche 911 GT2 Turbo to get 552bhp
New 911 GT2 will have a 552bhp 3.8 flat six, a dual-clutch gearbox and rear-wheel drive
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The new GT2 is expected to be followed by an RS model, with more than 620bhp, in 2015
by Greg Kable
12 May 2013 6:32amThe Porsche 911 Turbo will again form the basis of a hardened 911 GT2, which is set to appear at next year's Geneva motor show.
Depicted here in an exclusive computer-generated image, the new GT2 borrows the mechanical package of the new Turbo S, including its 552bhp twin-turbocharged 3.8-litre flat-six engine and dual-clutch automatic gearbox.
A top speed of more than 200mph and a 0-62mph time of close to 3.0sec is expected.
In keeping with its motorsport brief, the new Porsche 911 GT2 will ditch the 911 Turbo S's four-wheel drive system in favour of rear-wheel drive. Other features include the new four-wheel steer system.
An RS version is expected to develop upwards of 620bhp when it is revealed during 2015.
I'm looking forward to a 991 GT2 incarnation[]
Porsche's traditional 911 portfolio makes it easy for these journalists to predict. But as the turbo S has come early what does that mean for the intended power for the GT2. So, the turbo S has 560HP / 552bhp. Is this figure of 552bhp for the GT2
a guess? Might the GT2 have more power or will it have the identical turbo S engine & just shed weight & 4WS?
The looks are no doubt a guess but then its not hard to be not too far out. But let hope Porsche has us fooled with some unexpected element of it[]
If Porsche manage to wind the DFI motor to 620HP that put to bed almost all the 'Mezger vs DFI' debates. Well, except the "why don't they race the DFI?" debate but surely that's just a matter of time.
But that's what I like about Porsche. They're predictable to an extent, most of which is for the good, but they never do quite as you'd expect[]
]Porsche's traditional 911 portfolio makes it easy for these journalists to predict. But as the turbo S has come early what does that mean for the intended power for the GT2. So, the turbo S has 560HP / 552bhp. Is this figure of 552bhp for the GT2
a guess? Might the GT2 have more power or will it have the identical turbo S engine & just shed weight & 4WS?
The looks are no doubt a guess but then its not hard to be not too far out. But let hope Porsche has us fooled with some unexpected element of it[
]If Porsche manage to wind the DFI motor to 620HP that put to bed almost all the 'Mezger vs DFI' debates. Well, except the "why don't they race the DFI?" debate but surely that's just a matter of time.
But that's what I like about Porsche. They're predictable to an extent, most of which is for the good, but they never do quite as you'd expect[
]
On the configurator my 991C2S weighed in OTR at £94,524. To complete the deal I gave them my 2010 turbo S and £12,500. However, because there are (at least) two variables it is not exactly clear what my old car was worth as a trade in but say £75k. Using Alan's man maths that is around £16.5k/ year or £3 per mile. Not exactly an investment then .............but a lot of fun.
Although I am very pleased with the new car and would be happy to run it for a year or two, I have decided to send in a deposit and join the queue for a turbo and see how things work out. At this stage I always seem to press the S button on the configurator but despite not seriously constraining my options I never get higher than the base price of £140,852.
It will be interesting to see how things develop.
Although I am very pleased with the new car and would be happy to run it for a year or two, I have decided to send in a deposit and join the queue for a turbo and see how things work out. At this stage I always seem to press the S button on the configurator but despite not seriously constraining my options I never get higher than the base price of £140,852.
It will be interesting to see how things develop.
I tend to agree.
My only must have is a rear window wiper at a modest £235.00 (standard on every other hatchback) and protective carpets (girlfriend owns a horse) but I do like a sunroof and a fire extinguisher (having had to help out a friend whose track car caught fire).
I would quite happily dump the digital radio and telephone module and I can do much better than the Porsche VTS at £1,1140.00 but these are obligatory along with the 3rd year warranty although I would take the latter anyway.
My 2008 Turbo 25,000 miles (no VAT paid just 5% GST and VED total about £7,000) appears to be worth only £35,000.00 against the new Turbo S around December.
Cheers
And of course for years the rear wiper was NCO. That having been said, its pretty rare that I have ever used mine when reversing, and in normal driving the airflow seems to keep a Porsche rear window nice and clear; as distinct from a hatchback which you can't see out of after a couple of miles in the wet.
I think the most difficult decision, other than parting with the cash, is whether to stick with the centre locks or go for the NCO turbo wheels, which are slightly smaller. Though I have consistently maintained that CL on a road car are nothing more than a marketing exercise, I have to say that in 3 years I never had any trouble with mine (save of course the recall!). Would that change affect trade in? Maybe but its going to lose plenty anyway so isn't really a factor.
I find that the wiper is essential as I am crap at parking anyway!
I hadn't realised that the S wheels were smaller but they cost a considerable amount more to add them to the "ordinary" Turbo and I think that it would lower the trade in price when you come to sell.
However as you say the depreciation is horrendous anyway!!
Cheers
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