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Justin; if you can fit it into a 2002, then you can fit it into a 944! The OEM kit wasnt fantastic and most recovered parts will have failed, as Ed has already suggested. The heating and ventilation controls on series two 944s are quite complicated (and the vacuum controllers themselves prone to failure), so whilst its feasible to use these and integrate your own chiller: it may be better to simply vent your new kit to the existing ducting and control it through an additional switch (additional cooling, as opposed to climate control).

Simon
 
ORIGINAL: edh

trouble is, most of the ones that have a/c don't work ("just need re-gassing" [8|])

I love that phrase in adverts! It's akin to saying "the engine doesn't work but it probably just needs some petrol in the tank...."
 
If you've got the mechanical nouse and a source of reasonably priced parts that fit then I say GO FOR IT.

The normal response from Garages and Porsche Specialists for anyone wanting to retrofit A/C to a 944 is to allow ÂŁ2000 to do it wth factory parts. If you could come up with a solution to fit 944 owners meagre budgets you could have found yourself a nice little sideline [8D]
 
Mines got what I presume to be aftermarket aircon fitted and it still works. Bet it was an expensive retrofit
 
It's the only thing on my car that doesn't work and that I've mever felt worth getting fixed, tbh. I only use the car about two or thee times a month and, perhaps as a result of it being white and therefore frelecting most of the heat, combined with the sunroof, I've just never found myself wishing I had the a/c in action.
 

ORIGINAL: George Elliott

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It involves opening the drivers side window, and resting one's right arm on the door card with your hand positioned between the A-Post and the Door mirror, to bring in a marvellous supply of cool air. [:)]

George
944t

I used to rely on the hands-free version - front vent windows. When opened a little - the wind rushing past would extract air from the cabin; when pushed right around - strong air flow directly on you. Funny - as technology advances (one piece front windows) we have to add more technology (air con) to compensate for the loss of functionality. P.S. I'm old - when one piece front windows started in the 70's - I wasn't a fan...
 
I'am with Bruce on this. Front vent windows system was great. All cars had them. Japanese were the first who dropped them and european manufactures followed [:'(]
My old VW Beetle was so "air solid", that it helped to close door when you open a vent window.
 
I do miss the A/C as the dried air helps to demist the plastic rear window, but the cabriolet roof goes one better than the removable panel. just one drawback very fumy in traffic with the roof down. I am told that if you go to the trouble of changing all the seals and pipes (apparently the molecules of the latest spec refrigerants can bleed out through the older spec pipes) the A/C will not be as good as it was because the latest gasses have a higher boiling point than the good old cfcs and thus require larger evaporators to produce the same temperature drop.
 
Taken from Rennlist, how about the $10 A/C option? [:D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XPSsEBDUEAk
 
My white turbo is 28 years old, is running the original parts throughout, although all the seals are converted to R134a compatible ones and it all works as it should, I do give it an AC service every spring when it comes out of hibernation, but it often has only lost 100 grams of refrigerant over the year, which means it could probably go two years between top ups.

Every year I expect the condensor to eventually start to leak after 28 years of being exposed out the front of the car, but it is still hanging in there.

Blows really nice and cold, on a 35 degree day it can get the cabin down to 18 degrees.

It might not be quite as quick to get the temperature down as it might have on R12, or as quickly as say a Boxster or modern 911.. But then again they do have two massive condensors on the front and no where near as much glass letting in infra red radiation or cabin space to cool.

I never used to be bothered by AC, but these days I would not be without it in the summer or winter, but then again I am getting on a bit

Don't think the gas can make it through the aluminium pipes.. Maybe the hoses which I can believe, but even the modern hoses suffer from this as R134a does indeed have smaller molecules than R12, and even new Porsche require an air con service every two years at most.
 
I'm led to believe that with the right lubricant circulating it coats the inside of the pipes and prevents the refrigerant migrating through the hoses... My old Turbo lasted I think it was about 4-5 years working perfectly on R134A or whatever it is, and only had a problem after the car was stood up (cured by a regas), but the car was run up, and aircon used regularly - another good excuse to use the car regularly. [:D]
 
My S2 was refilled with R12 maybe 8 years ago and it's blowing as cold as it did on the first day... touch wood.
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Duracool-12a-natural-organic-refrigerant-substitute-R12-amp-R134a-6ozcan-/261405309345?_trksid=p2054897.l4275#ht_583wt_749

So what's the deal with this type of thing? Anybody tried anything like R12 replacement or equivalent?

I have what seems like a gass-less working a/c system. Still original R12. Have always wanted to get it re-charged and see what happens in case I get lucky!

Could you chuck this in and give it a bash?

Cheers

Stuart
 

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