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Am I expecting too much..??

Hey Bronco - Join the club?...absolutely. I did it the other way round and could have saved myself a lot of charging around.

Anyway back to your search. I have read intently the guys views and I agree with some and disagree with others. Why do you want the car? If it's to win concours competitions then no amount of original paintwork and low mileage barn find will make it. You'll need to build a new one and then tow it around on a trailer, never get it wet and then clean it once a week with a tooth pick to stand any chance...life's too short in my view, but each to their own.

I bought my black '87 Targa off ebay for £12k (the chap had it up for £14.5k and never had a bid). He had only had it a month, bought it to go track daying with and realised that he would kill it so bought a GT3 instead, but couldn't bring it home until he sold the 3.2. Hard life eh! Nice guy though. The previous owner had spent more on the car in a year than it was worth. All the bodywork done; full glass out re-spray; all new rubber; targa rebuilt etc. etc.

I take my car to shows and it looks great, but it's not perfect. There are things that always need doing, but that to me is the fun part of 3.2 ownership.

I organised a Dyno day the other weekend and it made 244.8bhp and my Steve Wong Chip is still to be fitted, not bad for an engine that's done 140k + miles.

Keep looking. Look everywhere and bargain hard. There are plenty out there and the price is what you are prepared to pay. I only ever made one offer and that bought me my car. The others I looked at were not good enough and didn't merit an offer. I told the owners the truth. Your cars too expensive because...and then I'd list the faults and the costs to put them right. The people who really want to sell their cars will bargain. However, there are a lot of people out there who don't really want to sell they are just playing at it to placate the other half. Ed was one of those guys in my view. They always throw in the phrase..."well if I don't sell it I'll keep it. I'll just have to buy an estate to fit the baby in."

My mother says her cats only eat Whiskers cat food...I say don't feed them for a week and they will eat a peanut butter sandwich! Harsh but true. Treat the sellers like the cats, wave the cash around you will be amazed the reaction it gets. January will be a good time when the post Christmas credit cards bills land on the door mat and the thing has been sitting in the garage for 4 months.

Play hard with the market and don't be afraid to make what appears to be a stupid offer... you never know. There are cars out there in good nick, within you budget. Don't give up. 3.2 ownership beckons and when you do find one for goodness sake drive it.

Steve
 
has anyone got any experienced / ever been to look at the the SC's / 3.2's you find in Autotrader around the £6K / £7K area? It has crossed my mind you could build a cheap stripped out trackday special from one of these?
 
ORIGINAL: graham tompkins

Iain,

OK point taken, but a black 3.2 coupe? Late model 3.2's are seldom found in the "unpopular colours" unless they have been re-sprayed. British Leyland Brown?,Allegro Orange, Ford Blue, even a 997 in those will be cheap.
Careful on colours though as its a sensitive subject with those who have them but won't admit it.[;)].
I was trying to be helpful to bronco, not cause controversy, but [:mad:]

Sorry Graham - hope it didn't sound like I was having a go. I was just speaking from experience.

By unpopular colours, I was mostly referring to GPW which seems to be notoriously hard to get rid of, although I like old Porsches in white.
 
Iain,
No problem my friend.
Tip of the week, if you are stuck with a GPW, stick a carerra stripe on the sides(red), paint the insdide of the wheels red, rip out the back seats and flog it on ebay as a Clubsport, people will buy anything on there I understand.
Seriously though, I really sympathise with Bronco. I did a couple of 200 mile round trips myself only to find that the cars were "H'sOFJ " or rather "not as described by the seller". It is very frustrating, and you almost feel conned. The only thing you do get from it is the experience which does help you recognise a good one when you find it. There is a temptation to compromise somewhere down the line as well. I,ve was looking through a few mags last night and I couldn't find any 3.2's that were any good going for Broncos budget. LHD possibly, or even a Cat D write off, but not sorted UK spec ones. There are a few nice SC's at that sort of money though and quite honestly he may be better off with a good SC than a 3.2 with issues.
Just had a look on e-bay. There's a red 86 on there at a buy now price of £6995! Looks like it needs some work but at that price it may be a bargain?
 
You are probably going to have to spend upwards of 5k to get one of these low priced cases fit for the road and more for the track, they are not priced like this for nothing. If you look at any take all the carpets out of the bonnet area and check the inner wings behind the carpets, this area is easily overlooked after satisfying oneself that the rear end and door shuts are good.
 
There's one on Pistonheads in GWP with high mileage, but as everyone says "buy on condition". It's an '85 so a 915 box and it's in N. Ireland so more than a little tricky to pop and have a look at.


 
Thanks alot lads.

Twinny.. I thought the way Ed talked about you, you were mates or something.!! his car was the best I've seen , what did you find wrong with it..?

The search continues..off up to Glasgow to look at an SC in a dealers at £12990 see Autotrader ( it has been totally restored and resprayed to a high standard ..apparantly!! will be taking the magnet along!!!)

 
Bronco - I met him once, the day I looked at his car! I don't think I'm on his Christmas card list yet.

Nothing great, I only looked over it for 10 minutes in the garage and then started it up. There were a couple of reverse dents on the bonnet and engine lid, like something had been underneath when they were being shut. The bumpers would need respraying due to the paint bubbling over the aluminium. Little things, but that was without getting underneath it and really taking my time. Overall the paint finish was much worse than mine.

The cigarette lighter didn't work - no big deal until you get a puncture and pull out the compressor (missing) to inflate the space saver.

I think you should make him an offer. He had no takers from ebay at the asking price and Strasse in Leeds had offered to buy it back at a much lower price.

If you never ask you'll never know.

Regarding your Glasgow trip. They use a hill of salt up there from October 'til Easter and outside those times it rains a lot, so check how long the car has been in the area and get it up on a ramp to get right into all the dark places!

Please accept my apologies if that sounded like teaching Grandmother to suck eggs.

Good luck.

 
ORIGINAL: graham tompkins

Iain,

OK point taken, but a black 3.2 coupe? Late model 3.2's are seldom found in the "unpopular colours" unless they have been re-sprayed. British Leyland Brown?,Allegro Orange, Ford Blue, even a 997 in those will be cheap.
Careful on colours though as its a sensitive subject with those who have them but won't admit it.[;)].
I was trying to be helpful to bronco, not cause controversy, but [:mad:]

Sorry Graham - hope it didn't sound like I was having a go. I was just speaking from experience.

By unpopular colours, I was mostly referring to GPW which seems to be notoriously hard to get rid of, although I like old Porsches in white.

Won't admit it! Knock me over and paint me allegro brown! Open season - for a laugh then anyone who thinks GP White (on a 3.2 or earlier) sucks please enlighten me! Maybe I'll go for a Rosewood Metallic Re-spray.... only kidding whitechameleon & co ....it's a lovely colour[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: jerry911sc

...anyone who thinks GP White (on a 3.2 or earlier) sucks please enlighten me!

You tell 'em Jerry, GPW is ace.

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ORIGINAL: jerry911sc
Won't admit it! Knock me over and paint me allegro brown! Open season - for a laugh then anyone who thinks GP White (on a 3.2 or earlier) sucks please enlighten me! Maybe I'll go for a Rosewood Metallic Re-spray.... only kidding whitechameleon & co ....it's a lovely colour[:D]

Jerry, I'm with you - I think white suits old Porsches very well.....but I had a white Targa which I eventually sold but it would have gone for more money and far more quickly if it had been any other colour (well maybe not ANY!). I had so many "don't really want a white car" from punters and "white cars are really hard to get rid of" from dealers, I have to say that I was quite surprised.

Having said that - Clarkson said about 12 months ago that he thought white cars were on the up - so maybe it would be shrewd to buy five now!

Anyway, the point is that if they're harder to get rid of and if Targas are harder to get rid of then Bronco is more likely to be sucessful with a white Targa than any other 3.2.
 
arrff arrff [:D]

think we'd better start a new thread rather than clutter up Bronco's. I'll do it later if no-one beats me too it (feel free).

 
I really like Grand prix white 3.2 targas, especially with plain black leather interiors they look great and really represent the 80's along with Guards red and black. May not be fashionable now but who knows?

Theres an off white 997 coupe near me that even the missus likes, the colour really suits the car IMHO

Bruce
 
Hello all.. just got back from another 400 mile round trip to view a 85 3.2 Carrera in Black. 129K, Pristine condition, Mechanically superb. 12 month MOT and TAX. FSH 16" wheels etc etc.. asking price £10950 ono .. .. .. .. Very nice man.

After questioning this owner at length ( before I set off ), I was hopeful of a real find with this one.......... ...... it wasn't.

How much (roughly) would it cost to repair the bottom of the door post ( A-post..? ) with a "cut out and patch" and say 10-15 minor blemishes around the car's edges..? Plus some respraying over its origional respray!!!!........ Mechanically I think it was good and general appearance and impression was good. How much are engine cover stays..? I could go on but I told Chris the owner I wouldn't write anything on here about it.....that was before the dissapointment of another waste journey to see another mis-described car.

Never mind no harm done.

Db
 
Hi Bronco :)

I went to see Colin's in Donny on saturday - very nice car in good honest condition by the looks of it with a stack load of history. Like you said, just a touch over priced at £13,950, but from what the guys on here are saying, maybe not?

I think there are cars out there though, just a shame you want Black and I ideally want white ...

Yes guys white! ... so if anyone knows of a 3.2 coupe in white let me know :)


You mentioned black underseal looking stuff on top of the suspension turrets on one car. Colin's had this as well but didn't look like it was hiding anything. Is this black finish not usual?
 
[quote[Hello all.. just got back from another 400 mile round trip to view a 85 3.2 Carrera in Black. 129K, Pristine condition, Mechanically superb. 12 month MOT and TAX. FSH 16" wheels etc etc.. asking price £10950 ono .. .. .. .. Very nice man.

After questioning this owner at length ( before I set off ), I was hopeful of a real find with this one.......... ...... it wasn't.
/quote]

Bronco, in all seriousness, I'm going to be selling my much admired 3.2 targa '84
in slate blue metallic, I've had the car for the last 6 years and same for the owner before me, both of us summer use only.

Please feel free to email me directly to discuss if appropiate, I'm only selling 'cause I have just placed an order for a new Cayman! Other than this mention here due to your post, I wont start to advertise my car until Feb/Mar 06. Should you wish to pursue this enquiry, some of who have previously posted, know of my car...it may be of help to you!
 
ORIGINAL: Bronco

Hello all.. just got back from another 400 mile round trip to view a 85 3.2 Carrera in Black. 129K, Pristine condition, Mechanically superb. 12 month MOT and TAX. FSH 16" wheels etc etc.. asking price £10950 ono .. .. .. .. Very nice man.

After questioning this owner at length ( before I set off ), I was hopeful of a real find with this one.......... ...... it wasn't.

Db

Keep smiling, this is all part of the 3.2 register desensitisation programme carefully developed to prevent you from hyperventilating when you do find a really good car. This way you will be match fit and able to keep a clear head in the negotiations!

Steve
 
Thanks alot men...... by the law of averages, I'm bound to come across a good one sooner or later..Christ knows I've seen most of the adventurously described stuff..!! LOL.


The car in Wolverhampton had a very thick covering of the rubbery black stuff,, but it was also covering some recent welding work and a hole about an inch long, half an inch thick, surely thats not factory,, to me it was a cover-up of accident damage.

Its getting really cold up here now, which is going to slow down my willingness to travel long distance.....good... Cash isn't doing anything in the bank.....I'll just have to wait.. .. .. patience isn't my thing.. .. .. however being wise with my money/ investments is.!!

Db
 

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