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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

ORIGINAL: MrDemon "Private seller asking dealer money" I don't get the issue, if the private car is a warranty car, then I would be asking dealer money for mine also.
Mr D who said there was an issue [:D] It was merely an observation and when competing with dealers who can supply finance and comfort zones real or imagined it doesn't make life any easier for private sellers Personally I prefer to meet the actual owner and make my own judgement rather than have a dealer telling me his sales yarns on the previous owner [:D]
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imho looks one of the better cars up for sale and if anything up to cheap should be more £40k+ but private sales of expensive cars is tough as already said dealers can offer finance etc
 
ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: kitchens Daro911 Well what is the verdict M v PDK ? Brian
Well that is like asking Guards Red or Carrera White :ROFLMAO:   Both cars are tremendous performers but the complicated answer I guess is as follows bearing in mind I am a totally commited stick shifter[:D]   Drove both cars over identical route and back to back   PDK first out .... Drove the car strictly in manual mode absolutely zero interest in how she goes as an auto.    Driven in manual mode using the sport chrono and then sport + made no difference as I was in total control of all shifts up or down when in either mode.  Driven as a manual the gear changes are lightning fast in either direction and of course the throttle feel adjusts in the same fashion as my manual car when in sport chrono mode.    The biggest thrill in the pdk comes from no need to lift off when shifting up a gear and of course the perfectly matched revs when dropping down 1, 2, or 3 gears in a flash.  These PDK chracteristics make for a very rapid machine in the real world so where on paper we are talikng 0.01 secs quicker to 62mph in reality it is a lot more than that for reasons stated above   Without a doubt because of these characteristics I drove the car much quicker through the twisties especially when entering and exiting roundabouts.  A life long task of clutch and gear stick action removed from the equation by flicking a paddle made my drive feel so much faster for zero effort at the same time.  I exited the car beaming from ear to ear and very impressed indeed[8D]   Time to repeat the 35 miles odd in my short shift manual [&o]   Within a few gear changes I was once again having far too much fun but at a much lower rate of knots.   There is a satisfaction to shifting gears in the traditional fashion and because the clutch and shift are so beatifully matched I found myself grinning with each shift of the yesterdays technology which is disappearing slowly but surely   Conclusion:-   If I had a PDK Spyder for sure it would only ever be driven as a manual.  It would deliver all the fun and drama one would expect from a Porsche and I would have no regrets at owning a flappy paddle shifter but I fear I would always be travelling a lot faster than I do with my manual and their would be those occasions where a good spirited drive with a clutch and short shifter would be sorely missed from the adventure   As an aside on Trip 2 Readout (data for actual journey)I returned 26.5 mpg with my manual 6 speed box and only just 23mpg with the PDK over the same route and using 7th gear!  So much for more mpg but as stated I was driving it faster for sure   If you are someone like my brother, who has no love for a manual, then the PDK is as good as it gets giving him as much manual interaction as he wants with zero effort. If like me you really enjoy shifting gears with the best clutch and box out there then a PDK will always leave you wanting  [;)]    Could I forgo my manual for a PDK without having any regrets .... Probably but not 100% convinced :ROFLMAO:                 
I agree with MrD that being quick has a lot to do with reading the road ahead & being in the right gear based on what you see and anticipate. Although, my opinion on PDK was formed on the expectation that I'd most likely end up leaving it in auto, where the system is 'blind' to what is ahead. Driving it in manual removes the blind element from the system as you're choosing gears based on reading the road & so for a work out as described by daro I must admit I can't see how that can be anything other than a GOOD drive. I must force myself to keep it in manual the next time I get a loaner because I also have to admit that I more likely have the tendency let it make me lazy, as MrD mentioned a few pages back. In auto its a bit sluggish to get the system to react by stamping on the gas if you're pootling along in normal mode and need to have a quick aggressive squirt without a pre-meditated transition to sport mode. The lower powered cars suffer more I think. The more powerful 911's suffer less the feeling of being caught in the wrong gear. As others have said though, even if I drive it in auto, I should be prepared to take over when necessary. You've given me food for thought daro on trying 987 PDK again but forcing myself to use it as a manual (not at all thinking of swapping the Spyder to PDK). 991/981 PDK though is a better auto but I should start thinking about that in manual mode too to get even more out of it). My previous thoughts on PDK halfway down this page http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=43
 
ORIGINAL: daro911 As an aside on Trip 2 Readout (data for actual journey)I returned 26.5 mpg with my manual 6 speed box and only just 23mpg with the PDK over the same route and using 7th gear!  So much for more mpg but as stated I was driving it faster for sure
This sums up real world use of PDK nicely. Obviously, if I could drive like mrdemon I would be in the right gear at the right time all the time [:D][:D][:D]
 
correct :) But the question about PDK is more like Gay vs Straight, Boy VS girl [;)] So many times you read "I need to have PDK for the wife" [:mad:] If all these cars are going to be PDK only in the future, lets enjoy what we have now.
 
You may be right mr d !! Linda would much rather have a manual it's me who " needs" pdk 😃
 
I covered 500 miles over the weekend in a little 5dr 1.4 Vauxhall Corsa (long story) hire car. No, I am not going to attempt to compare it to a Spyder!! But, i've just jumped back in the Spyder to pick my son up from school and wow, what I contrast. I rarely drive anything other than my Porsche and then the occasional other Porsche on loan. I drive the wife's car from time to time but that is a horrible traditional auto (I had no involvement in choosing her car) so I rarely drive any other manual car. I started to get the Spyder out of the garage. The car shot forward 2 feet as I lifted the clutch. I was pretty shocked, i'd only last driven it 4 days ago, but the 500 miles in the Corsa had recalibrated my left foot[:D] Yes you feel like you sit on the Corsa rather than in it, and if it had any less power it would have zero bhp, but it was OK to drive on the motorway when you finally got up to speed - just no poke in ANY gear. But now my clutch feels heavy and as I lifted my tired foot (it's been a long weekend) I completely misjudged where the bite point was and short forward without giving it any gas. Then as the car dropped down the small step out of the garage, it felt like it had zero suspension travel. It's a very short drive to his school and as I said, i'm very tired, but i'll have to give it some beans tomorrow and get back into the swing of what this car is about[;)]. I've had no issues with driving it as a daily driver, so it's really odd that i've come back so unfamiliar it[&:] The Corsa was a nice little car inside and out and gone are the days when little cars are not smooth at motorway speeds like big cars. I couldn't have a second car that didn't have any 'fizz' though. It'd drive me NUTS and i've never drive it!
 
I thought I had broke my Spyder two weeks ago. went to Donny Porsche, VIP treat, got in the car to drive off and had to stop, car juddered and then stopped "o shit" I thought that did not feel good and now no engine noise. then I noticed I had not put the clutch in when I went to stop at the junction. [:)] people will be doing auto only driving tests again soon, (My gf sister already is) sad skill to loose driving a manual.
 
ORIGINAL: MrDemon correct :) But the question about PDK is more like Gay vs Straight, Boy VS girl [;)] So many times you read "I need to have PDK for the wife" [:mad:] If all these cars are going to be PDK only in the future, lets enjoy what we have now.
Hypothetical question for you[;)] Choice of two evils which would you take [:)] Spyder PDK with Carbon Buckets or Spyder Manual with Heated Chairs [link=http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=987+spyder+seats&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=V0qxIZTIkSriiM&tbnid=6pp8TOBkVqkhGM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.porschearchive.com%2Frender.cfm%3Fsource%3D28000~Boxster_Spyder_RS60_(987)~2008-2009&ei=2TKJUcqxJem90QXE_IDQAQ&bvm=bv.45960087,d.d2k&psig=AFQjCNFLsvoEVQbd0_WdOfRoanVe3NS6lw&ust=1368032328750482]
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any thing as long as it was not red leather inside ;-) But it would have to be manual with Sports seats I just don't get the Spyder with PDK sorry :-( you could always have a new Boxster with PDK and Electric steering if you want to drive true playstation style here is the vid I took of one I had on loan lol do that in the SPyder and you would be across 2 lanes, and people say they cannot tell !!!! even my Audi was better [:-] http://youtu.be/JXlgfbgdoQ4
 
ORIGINAL: MrDemon I thought I had broke my Spyder two weeks ago. went to Donny Porsche, VIP treat, got in the car to drive off and had to stop, car juddered and then stopped "o shit" I thought that did not feel good and now no engine noise. then I noticed I had not put the clutch in when I went to stop at the junction. [:)] people will be doing auto only driving tests again soon, (My gf sister already is) sad skill to loose driving a manual.
[:D][:D] You'll have to get a chauffeur[:D]
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And they can also take care of the general upkeep, like checking the tyre tread depth[:D][:D]
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ORIGINAL: MrDemon you could always have a new Boxster with PDK and Electric steering if you want to drive true playstation style here is the vid I took of one I had on loan lol do that in the SPyder and you would be across 2 lanes, and people say they cannot tell !!!! even my Audi was better [:-] http://youtu.be/JXlgfbgdoQ4
Crikey, it looks detached![:D]
 
Did anyone else think it was a bit strange that there is a Spyder in this pic?. I was a bit surprised to see a Spyder in a Porsche motor show display at the time of launch of the Black Edition. Wasn't the Spyder close to being end of production by then? [&:] Perhaps it was the final push before closing the order book in July 2011.
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ORIGINAL: kitchens I rather like that photo of the Red car with the black wheels and the Red cheese graters [;)] and with mine having the Red hoops it would blend in and be nice i think ?? If the air intakes front and rear where painted Black or even Red perhaps you technical guys could do a Photo shop to see how it would look. Brian
Sorry Brian, i've never dabbled with photoshop. Is there anyone on here who has photoshop skills? We could add 'Customisation Booth' to the list of activities going on in here[;)]
 
Just back in from a club Fish and Chip shop run down the coast .great night top down all the way fantastic ,this is the best way to drive the cars .Short lived back to rain tomorrow[:eek:]
 
ORIGINAL: MrDemon here is the vid I took of one I had on loan lol do that in the SPyder and you would be across 2 lanes, and people say they cannot tell !!!! even my Audi was better [:-] http://youtu.be/JXlgfbgdoQ4
Pretty shocking by any standards but when driven normally I must confess to not have noticed anything strange about the electricity driven racks [&o] When you hop between your Spyder and Kman are their any obvious differences between the pair in the fashion they perform and handle on the highways or is it fair to say same backside other cheek [:D] Either way great pair to own at the same time I am sure [8D]
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Six now at PC's around country I think a new one at Briston at 15.k miles and just shy of £41.K http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/uk/clients.show_cars?reihe_=98X&art_=boxspy&bauart_=all&vpreis_=&bpreis_=&vezl_=&bezl_=&postcode=&pcenter=&sid_=12375945MDN3N9H36T6D5MIJX5C7RGS&styp_=s
 
ORIGINAL: flat6
ORIGINAL: MrDemon you could always have a new Boxster with PDK and Electric steering if you want to drive true playstation style here is the vid I took of one I had on loan lol do that in the SPyder and you would be across 2 lanes, and people say they cannot tell !!!! even my Audi was better [:-] http://youtu.be/JXlgfbgdoQ4
Crikey, it looks detached![:D]
P.S. MrD, you should try a 981 Cayman and compare the difference in steering set up to the 981 Boxster. You will definitely be able to tell the difference.
 
ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Six now at PC's around country I think a new one at Briston at 15.k miles and just shy of £41.K [link=http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/uk/clients.show_cars?reihe_=98X&art_=boxspy&bauart_=all&vpreis_=&bpreis_=&vezl_=&bezl_=&postcode=&pcenter=&sid_=12375945MDN3N9H36T6D5MIJX5C7RGS&styp_=s]http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/uk/clients.show_cars?reihe_=98X&art_=boxspy&bauart_=all&vpreis_=&bpreis_=&vezl_=&bezl_=&postcode=&pcenter=&sid_=12375945MDN3N9H36T6D5MIJX5C7RGS&styp_=s[/link]
only problem is its the nondesirable carrara white manual with bucket seats and sportshifter[:D]
 

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