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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

Wouldn't have said it was that high but they certainly king of the used Spyder sales. Anyone checked out the OPCs though? New to market (i can never make the links work) at Cambridge OPC is a black PDK car with Spyder alloys and buckets. F o r t y s i x grand!!!!!
 
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock Wouldn't have said it was that high but they certainly king of the used Spyder sales. Anyone checked out the OPCs though? New to market (i can never make the links work) at Cambridge OPC is a black PDK car with Spyder alloys and buckets. F o r t y s i x grand!!!!!
That's going to be a record ask price for a used Spyder but on the other hand it is a PDK[:D] That vin is 13 later than my genuine March 2011 build example!
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Porsche Boxster Spyder, £ 46,000 With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Transmission: Automatic Fuel: Petrol Colour: Basalt Black Metallic Colour (interior): Black leatherette and alcantara seats Vehicle Ident Number: WP0ZZZ98ZBS740846 Mileage: 4,649 m Registration Year: 10/11 Price: £ 46,000 Equipment ##19-inch Boxster Spyder Wheel ##Cup holder ##Floor mats ##Fully automatic climate control ##ParkAssist (rear) ##Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module ##Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) ##Preparation for mobile phone ##Roll-over bar in exterior colour ##Sound Package Plus including CD storage ##Sport Chrono Package Plus ##Sports Bucket Seats ##Sports exhaust system
 
They're testing the waters at £ 4 6 , 0 0 0 !!!!! Exciting times [:)] One thing it does show though, as far as the OPC's are concerned (and I think all of them have experience of selling Spyders) is that they believe they can ask for more for these cars than before. Anyone in the market for one will struggle to get a 'bargain'. The longer you wait the more you're gonna pay [;)]
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 They're testing the waters at £ 4 6 , 0 0 0 !!!!! Exciting times [:)] One thing it does show though, as far as the OPC's are concerned (and I think all of them have experience of selling Spyders) is that they believe they can ask for more for these cars than before. Anyone in the market for one will struggle to get a 'bargain'. The longer you wait the more you're gonna pay [;)]
Hope the water is RED hot !! It is 1 month younger than mine yet it is 74 numbers lower than my Vin No So is it the higher the Vin the younger the car is in production terms or the other way around ?? If i where to add on another years warranty taking it to Sept 2016+ pay for the next major service due in Sept 2015 i would be still ahead If they get £46K That one i lost out on looks like the Sale Of The Century ( remember the show )[;)]
 
ORIGINAL: kitchens So is it the higher the Vin the younger the car is in production terms or the other way around ??
The higher the vin the younger the car is and the nearer to end of production which was July 2011for Spyders [;)] As my car was made in March 2011 and that car is 13 vins further down the road I guess it was made at the same time as mine
 
ORIGINAL: philnotts99 Anyone got any idea how much that black car would of been new? Phil
Circa £54k before any dealer discounts probably OTR just over or under £50k back in the day
 
Not bad then on the re-sell value... I think they have gone high so they can come down. It will probably sell for 42-44k in the end but we will never know! I still don't understand why that black one hasn't sold yet! And no its not right for me :p Phil PS. Who's temped to sell theres at 44k - 46k then !?
 
ORIGINAL: philnotts99 Not bad then on the re-sell value... I think they have gone high so they can come down. It will probably sell for 42-44k in the end but we will never know! Phil PS. Who's temped to sell theres at 44k - 46k then !?
Form an orderly queue............you need to get your cheque book ready Phil, I suspect you might have a list to choose from.
 
ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: jdpef356
ORIGINAL: daro911 Bramley car is under offer in just one week[;)] Was on for £38850.00 2010/10 Mileage 9988 UNDER OFFER
Its those sports seats that sell em![;)]
I repeat myself but dealers to date have never said the Sports seats are a handicap to a sale which isn't what they use to say about the buckets I think all that has happened now is the guy looking for a Spyder that ticks his main boxes might more readily accept a car with buckets, just like our man kitchens did, rather than insist on sports seats which we all know are a very decent seat in the first place and have hardly changed with the introduction of 981/991. As much as I wanted buckets the fact my 2 Spyders to date had sports seats wasn't a deal breaker for me and I would guess it is the same story for the majority of wannabe Spydermen[:D] Await Mr D's flame thrower:ROFLMAO: Saturday weather looking like another outing for my garage queen [8D] http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/london-greater-london#?tab=fiveDay&fcTime=1392940800[8D] Any Spydermen with a smart phone should download this free fantastic speed ticket saving apps https://www.trapster.com
I was out in the Spyder and the 986 today. Spyder with buckets, 986 with sports seats, have to say for normal driving the sports seats are superbly comfortable. Noticeably more comfortable after getting out of the Spyder.
 
ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: homerdog No matter how often certain people go on about cars with bucket seats being worth more, the market has yet to show that to be true. If you must have a Spyder with a certain spec, then by all means wait for one to come along. In the meantime, I'll be driving mine and enjoying it... [:D]
Hear hear[8D] Would be good to hear from a major player in used Spyders like Tom/911V what he thinks about buckets v sports seats
"It’s difficult for me to pass judgement on this fascination / obsession with the Spyder and the need for a particular specification without it coming across as though I have an agenda. Any opinions I have are based on my own historical experience of selling these cars and have nothing to with cars we currently hold in stock or cars that we will acquire in the future. The notion that a Spyder without Buckets and Spyder wheels is worth significantly less than one with said options is simply not true. We’ve sold a number of these cars now (double figures). The split of those with buckets and those without sits at about 50/50. To buy a specialist car of this type or indeed any car on the basis of an options list is making the assumption that all these cars are the same in respect of their condition, their service state and their pedigree. Quality varies dramatically and buying a car is a very tactile exercise. People need to see cars and critique them in the flesh rather than disregard them on a computer screen. It’s all too easy when looking at the classifieds to judge a car on the basis of those headline grabbing options, the mileage and the number of owners. Every car being sold is perfect before you see it and herein lies the problem. When you see them rarely are they perfect, in fact most are cars that true enthusiasts would reject from 20 feet away let alone under close scrutiny. There is and always has been a market for quality, for the discerning buyer who focuses less on the bells and whistles on offer and more on the condition, service state and provenance of the car. I’ve sold countless cars over the years that on paper don’t look great. I’ve given the owners no less for them because of it. Why ...? because in the real world, away from internet chat rooms they are absolutely exquisite examples of their type and I put my faith in the product. The Spyder is an amazing car, one of my favourites to leave the factory in the last five years. A paint by numbers approach to buying any car might result in you getting a particular model with a particular specification but it will never get you a work of art and deep down that’s what everyone wants when they set out to look for a new vehicle. " Tom 911Virgin
 
ORIGINAL: Tom 911Virgin
ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: homerdog No matter how often certain people go on about cars with bucket seats being worth more, the market has yet to show that to be true. If you must have a Spyder with a certain spec, then by all means wait for one to come along. In the meantime, I'll be driving mine and enjoying it... [:D]
Hear hear[8D] Would be good to hear from a major player in used Spyders like Tom/911V what he thinks about buckets v sports seats
"It’s difficult for me to pass judgement on this fascination / obsession with the Spyder and the need for a particular specification without it coming across as though I have an agenda. Any opinions I have are based on my own historical experience of selling these cars and have nothing to with cars we currently hold in stock or cars that we will acquire in the future. The notion that a Spyder without Buckets and Spyder wheels is worth significantly less than one with said options is simply not true. We’ve sold a number of these cars now (double figures). The split of those with buckets and those without sits at about 50/50. To buy a specialist car of this type or indeed any car on the basis of an options list is making the assumption that all these cars are the same in respect of their condition, their service state and their pedigree. Quality varies dramatically and buying a car is a very tactile exercise. People need to see cars and critique them in the flesh rather than disregard them on a computer screen. It’s all too easy when looking at the classifieds to judge a car on the basis of those headline grabbing options, the mileage and the number of owners. Every car being sold is perfect before you see it and herein lies the problem. When you see them rarely are they perfect, in fact most are cars that true enthusiasts would reject from 20 feet away let alone under close scrutiny. There is and always has been a market for quality, for the discerning buyer who focuses less on the bells and whistles on offer and more on the condition, service state and provenance of the car. I’ve sold countless cars over the years that on paper don’t look great. I’ve given the owners no less for them because of it. Why ...? because in the real world, away from internet chat rooms they are absolutely exquisite examples of their type and I put my faith in the product. The Spyder is an amazing car, one of my favourites to leave the factory in the last five years. A paint by numbers approach to buying any car might result in you getting a particular model with a particular specification but it will never get you a work of art and deep down that’s what everyone wants when they set out to look for a new vehicle. " Tom 911Virgin
The power of the internet I make a wish for some professional views on the topic we continually debate and up pops the man himself .... Many thanks Tom for taking the time and trouble to reply and hopefully put this little chestnut to bed for a while although I am sure many more will arise should you wish to step back up to the plate again [:D] [:D] The usual suspects on here, myself included, are usually debating chairs, gear boxes, and of course wheels. You have backed up what I discovered way back in 2010 at the launch of this great piece of kit from no less than 4 visits to the PEC and then many dealer visits between pondering and finally buying my first Spyder in Feb 2011 ... All my personal market research strongly pointed towards a 50/50 split for and against the buckets but as I am sure we all know anyone can live with the sports chairs but not everyone can live with the buckets hence the 50/50 split was always a very consistent conclusion during my search and research I have always believed in decades to come the actual spec of any Spyder will not be as important to any collector / buyer as the cars total history and condition first and foremost
 
LOLz But you would still have chosen buckets twice if you could. [;)] And PDK is rubbish, blue is the best colour, ceramic brakes are terrible, sports exhaust useless and turbo2 wheels the best!! As we've said for time - condition, pedigree, mileage, fluff
 
I've got to disagree with what has been said, and here are my reasons. The internet has changed the sales side of motor trade beyond recognition in the last 10 years, and even more so for the sellers that specialize, whether it be in high end cars or in to specific Marques, so I am very surprised that Tom has said what he did. I spent 30+ years in the sales side of the motor trade at managerial level and as a proprietor of my own garages, and when I bought my CR I looked on the net for a while until I found one with the spec I wanted and I bought it UNSEEN. The reason for this was that I knew it was still under Porsche warranty and the pictures and description sold it to me. Also at the end of the day if I wasn't happy when I got to see it I could always pull out (For wanting of a better motor trade expression). For high end cars that are thin on the ground it makes it very difficult for said caliber of customer to spend endless hours/days chasing up and down the country to view a car that doesn't tick all their boxes. As I said I'm surprised Tom said what he did as I'm sure he sells a large percentage of his cars as unseen these days.
 
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock LOLz But you would still have chosen buckets twice if you could. [;)] And PDK is rubbish, blue is the best colour, ceramic brakes are terrible, sports exhaust useless and turbo2 wheels the best!! As we've said for time - condition, pedigree, mileage, fluff
Rob you never commented on the core comment [:D] "The Spyder is an amazing car, one of my favourites to leave the factory in the last five years. A paint by numbers approach to buying any car might result in you getting a particular model with a particular specification but it will never get you a work of art and deep down that’s what everyone wants when they set out to look for a new vehicle. "
 
That has to be right. 911V have such a strong reputation I would happily buy from them blind based on their description.
 
The best cars have always sold outside of 3rd party dealers I find. so to quote this is not something I agree with :) "The notion that a Spyder without Buckets and Spyder wheels is worth significantly less than one with said options is simply not true" lets ask a know buyer Phil. would he buy the 911V car at 34k or my car at 36k ? I act think he would buy my car at £40+k and I doubt he would buy the 911V car even at 33k now lets look at OPC cars up at 46k , the 911v car at 36k is a long way from the OPC car at 46k and the OPC car still does not have leather. The Spyders Tom has sold he has sold cheap, cheap because of the spec, or miles, it's that simple imo. He has also bought cheap so he can sell cheap, he can buy cheap because the sellers cannot sell their cars at 38k !!! he must have only paid 31k or even less for his new Spyder but the seller could not sell it, because of the low spec. He would not buy my car at 36k to sell at 42k I put money on it. it's not his business model. he would not buy my GT3 at 36k which I offered to him which he could have sold all day long at 42k because he was selling ok spec GT3's at 38k My GT3 was never a retail 38k GT3 like wise my SPyder is not a 35k spyder, like wise I paid 45k for my R not 38K because it's a bloody good hi spec one ;-) My GT3 sold private with in a week, so on a plus side I am happy Tom did not take my car in :) So hence why I don't agree with that statement :) nothing wrong with 911V cars either, he buys nice stock he sells nice stock, but it's not top tier stock ....... the spyder he has now must be the lowest spec of any I have seen, he took on a risk imo, but has 5k to play with to move it on and it's still the cheapest out there, so we will never know what it sold for unless the buyers posts what he got it for. 911V has a business model to move loads of cars, it works, end of imo.
 
He ain't got £5k to play with because it is being sold with a major 4 year service from an OPC and we know what the seller was advertising it for before Tom bought it. I wish my business was as profitable, - it is a great model with obviously high levels of customer satisfaction and a national reputation .
 

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