Some guy picked up the 997 on the same day as me! Your right, there not that bad, i guess its just something that plays on your mind.
Back from 2 weeks away. I was itching to get back in the car despite the jet lag as I had barely got to drive it before I went away. Coming from a Spyder to this car gave it a lot to live up to in terms of driveability. Took it to my local driving roads. I took some spurs that I hadn't taken before, in order to extend the drive. The first thing I have noticed with this car is that the sport shifter is not as notchy when cold as on a 987. Granted it is a completely different transmission on this car but compared to a 987 it's like its not notchy at all. I had tried it with the standard shifter before having the short shifter installed but I can defnitely feel the shorter shift compared to other 997's I have driven. The clutch pedal is softer than my Spyder's was for sure. Braking - it felt more powerful, but with the extra mass the stopping distances are no doubt similar and that is how it felt. Nevertheless it certainly appeared to live up to Porsche's philosophy for the brake to stop the car as quickly as the car can accelerate (can't speak for persistent braking and brake fade vs aftermarket pads / discs but I won't be running the car hard enough or long enough for that to need consideration). Under hard braking it did feel to squirm a tiny fraction whereas the Spyder would brake so composed. Will have to keep an eye on that... Pushed it through some corners. Then pushed some more letting the turbos kick in more aggressively to see if that might unsettle it. It didn't corner as flat as the Spyder but then I didn't expect it to. The main thing I was looking for was whether it is as confidence inspiring to drive as fast as the Spyder through corners, however it chooses to bring that about. I needed a few more miles to decide... Then I turned the PASM to Sport Mode, something I tended not to bother with on my 987 Cayman S as the oscillations on that setting made it a bit bouncy on anything but a track smooth road surface or crashy on broken surfaces. However here it was pliant enough to work with on imperfect roads. Now it cornered flatter. Confidence rose to my usual levels[
]. I find the steering pretty light and precise. Not sharp like the Spyder, but after reading about AWD numbness etc, I was expecting there to be some lack of response, despite driving a C4S around PEC before and really only finding its weight transfer the most apparent difference in the feel of its handling, which is a big difference, and made the car feel a bit lurchy. Here the car just seems well sorted. It doesn't feel apparent that it is AWD (coming from someone that has driven a Spyder as a daily for 2 years). Neither am I feeling the rear engined weight transfer that I felt in the C4S around PEC (coming from someone that has driven a Spyder as a daily for 2 years). Maybe its just me and others who have driven both will find them more night and day different. As I say, it is clear that the Spyder is more agile and sharper, but i'm looking mainly at what levels of confidence are offered and i'm driving the turbo as fast as I would the Spyder (though I accept that the cars are completely different and handle different and I am no Andy Fagan getting closer to the limits of these cars[8D]) It's no Spyder and I won't be watching prices and all that good stuff that you can do with a rare car like guys have, but i'm probably as happy as you Rob with taking the plunge into something different[] Now back to Spyders[]
Welcome back flat6 and must say your new mistress is looking very sharp [ORIGINAL: flat6 Back from 2 weeks away. I was itching to get back in the car despite the jet lag as I had barely got to drive it before I went away. Coming from a Spyder to this car gave it a lot to live up to in terms of driveability. It's no Spyder and I won't be watching prices and all that good stuff that you can do with a rare car like guys have, but i'm probably as happy as you Rob with taking the plunge into something different[
] Look forward to further reports as you bond and any ideas what sort of mpg you will be getting after those spirited blasts[] and how many of those extra horses can actually be used on our great British roads today [&o]Having seen your Spyder the condition at 22,000 miles was very good. Would have to agree with leaving it alone. Even with the paint code there can be multiple shades of the same colour and as you say, sometimes a re-spray can bring about disappointment unless it has been done very well so it looks like a factory job. Not saying there aren't places that can do that. Paint / body work is a bit of a grey area where the warranty is concerned. Have a check with your OPC about that. These cars are prone to developing corrosion around the front lid catch. It is rectified under warranty but only if the car passes a paintwork inspectionI believe. The thing with front end stone chips (and might it also be weathered around the side air vents?) is that you could have it done and pick up another stone chip on the way home[&o] I suppose it depends how much you intend to drive the car as to whether it is worth chasing your tail in that regard[8|] The more you drive it the higher the probability of it getting chipped again. If it was me i'd leave it until it really really needed doing.
].....And as mentioned i could get one driving home anyway!... For a 4 year old car and 22k on the clock it’s in very good condition, even if Rob visited the kitty litter a few times [8D] Looking around the car last night, i think my biggest problem is going to be tar marks on the white. Never owned a white car before but you can really see them. Autoglym intense tar remover was working quite well though.
White or Red [
] WHITE is a combination of all colours within the light spectrum, and is associated with goodness, perfection, purity, innocence, truth, faith, sincerity, cleanliness, peace and harmony, refinement and dignity. Those who choose to drive a WHITE car are often ‘neat-freaks’ who value order and organization, and who prefer to be up-front and honest in both their professional and private lives. Driving a WHITE vehicle may indicate someone who is truthful and honest, and at times, fastidious and fussy. Drivers of WHITE cars can also be seen to be frivolous and lacking in financial caution. Those who drive WHITE cars are often generous and outgoing people who are earnest and accommodating, and often have very trusting personalities. People who choose to drive WHITE vehicles often have average self-confidence about the course of their lives, and are quite consistent in regards to their moods and attitudes. A clean WHITE car indicates someone who pays great attention to detail and who is cautious and careful in life. WHITE car owners can be critical and discerning, detail-minded and overly-cautious. A dirty WHITE car can imply that the owner is indifferent, lazy and sloppy. RED RED is associated with danger, excitement and speed. RED is an exciting colour that embodies vitality, fun, ambition and achievement. RED gives off a high energy vibration that has been found to raise the blood pressure and stimulate the senses, and those who own and drive RED cars may be inclined to take more risks than others. While RED cars don’t necessarily don’t go any faster than any other car, the owners of RED cars are most often the ones trying to get ahead of the pack. Those who choose to drive a RED car often resonate with high-action, sex appeal, moving quickly and being flashy. A RED car can indicate a passionate person who likes to take charge of situations, and who at times can seem a little ‘wild’. RED car owners are not afraid to get things done. RED cars denote those who have ‘high performance’ energy and drive, and who are full of zest, courage, ambition and verve. They can be impatient characters who live their lives at a fast pace. People who drive RED cars are often enthusiastic about life and are passionate about their interests and themselves. Those who drive a RED car can be described as being extroverted and ‘out there’. They have a ‘go-getter’ type of personality and enjoy adventure and action. Those who drive RED cars are ‘take charge’ kinds of people who like to get things done quickly and efficiently. RED car owners can be impulsive and aggressive and can be prone to emotional ups and downs in quick succession. Physically aggressive types of people will be attracted to a shiny RED car. BRIGHT RED subconsciously sends others the message that the owner is in a high income bracket. 
[ORIGINAL: daro911 White or Red [
][][] Yup, that's me, Cecil, John and Brian to a tee. We're sexy and we know it.
lol, i'll grab the popcorn [ORIGINAL: MrDemon I hate to say it again but with todays cars being less involving even the GT3's of this world, owning/driving a manual is one of lifes joys. I even question myself thinking what sort of person even wants PDK in a Spyder ? my answers i'll keep to myself
]]My advice FWIW is the last thing you want to be doing is changing gear mid corner or one handed steering at any time. Keep both hands on the steering wheel. All braking and gear shifts need to be dealt with in a straight line and before entering a corner otherwise you run the risk of a significant amount of engine braking, potentially locking up the wheels, transferring weight to the front wheels, all of which will result in a loss of grip - not a fun situation to be in. Have a go in a caterham without all the aids the Spyder has and you soon realise it's really good advice.
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock[ORIGINAL: daro911 White or Red [
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock[ORIGINAL: daro911 White or Red [
Totally agree. Would never change gear mid corner as that'd really upset the car. It's only if there is a combination of corners and i'm trying to downshift to enter the next corner but still have some lock on from the last corner. Good point though, may be better to find the best gear to get through a sequence of corners if possible but sometimes on the roads I haven't planned that well ahead to just reacting to how the road unfolds ahead.
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