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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

ORIGINAL: homerdog
ORIGINAL: tyinsky
ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson New Spyder to market http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-rare-purist-spec------------------2010/4013805
Will be interesting to see how quickly that car sells. No aircon? Looks a very decent spec with carefully chosen options (and deletions!) if someone wants a genuine lightweight one. Porsche warranty too.
It's a press car, same as MrD's - probably thrashed to within an inch of its life!
ORIGINAL: MrDemon You AC guys are crazy lol no one buys soft tops in sunny climates you notice you would burn your head ! , every one has coupes with AC on, the UK is the soft top mecca and we don't need AC here, you take the roof off !
Some of us drive ours abroad in the sun - A/C is a godsend when you're driving in 34 degree temperatures!
Had my A/C on today in sunny London. Use it a lot in the summer, and a lot to clear the windscreen too - probably more often than in other cars due to it being open and letting in more moisture. I like the idea of the super lightweight cars a lot but for the sake of a few kilos I'm way too soft. Would hate to be without aircon. Full credit to the sweaty fu©kers who are hardy enough to drive without in the pursuit of bonding man and machine. I drove an aircooled car with no aircon for years and although mostly it wasn't a problem in the summer, there were days where it was horrible because of it. And many nights where the windscreen never really fully cleared. To be clear. I'm not knocking the non-aircon cars.
 
ORIGINAL: daro911 Rob ... As you have 987 Spyder 981 Cayman S on the CV where would a 981 Spyder or GT4 rank in your future wish list[;)] [/color]
It's all down to use... I'd love either but I enjoy doing my trips to Cornbury House in a Porsche. I know Mr D would say I should have leased a Golf R and kept my Spyder (he on many levels would be right) but whilst I am on the Board, both Spyder and GT4 are too extreme for my all weather high mileage use. I miss having the roof down on days like today though. It's funny isn't it - 5 years ago I sat in an unloved and unwanted Spyder that had been sat in an OPC for weeks - I loved it and wanted it and bought it. These days you have to commit £5k up front to be in with a chance of paying full list for something you can't see in the flesh, drive or even touch...
 
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock
ORIGINAL: daro911 Rob ... As you have 987 Spyder 981 Cayman S on the CV where would a 981 Spyder or GT4 rank in your future wish list[;)] [/color]
It's funny isn't it - 5 years ago I sat in an unloved and unwanted Spyder that had been sat in an OPC for weeks - I loved it and wanted it and bought it. These days you have to commit £5k up front to be in with a chance of paying full list for something you can't see in the flesh, drive or even touch...
Wind the Porsche clock back to 1989 911 Speedster brand new £55500 OTR and then after 12 months of madness where cars did change hands for 6 figures the bubble burst and the cars were stuck at circa 30-36k for the next 18 years then bingo today we see the same cars for between £100-160k depending on miles and history of course Maybe the next bubble burst will happen after May7th has been and gone[:eek:] and Geoff could have had Mr D's unloved GT4 for £10k below list [:D] New Page New Pic
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People must have real concerns of 85mph 2nd gears, electric steering, high tax and low mpg. I hate buying blind, but there is a lot of hype around Porsche ATM.
 
ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson
ORIGINAL: homerdog It's a press car, same as MrD's - probably thrashed to within an inch of its life!
Wouldn't rev range activity tell you if that's the case or not?
I thought I'd do a MrD and was just making a sweeping statement, it wasn't based on facts! [;)]
 
ORIGINAL: homerdog
ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson
ORIGINAL: homerdog It's a press car, same as MrD's - probably thrashed to within an inch of its life!
Wouldn't rev range activity tell you if that's the case or not?
I thought I'd do a MrD and was just making a sweeping statement, it wasn't based on facts! [;)]
Looks like it's more than just your cars that you have in common then, ironic really as you seem to be one of those who are quick to tell MrD to 'shut up' when he does the same.
 
ORIGINAL: MrDemon People must have real concerns of 85mph 2nd gears, electric steering, high tax and low mpg. I hate buying blind, but there is a lot of hype around Porsche ATM.
There is also a lot of total bullsh*t around Porsche ATM but always amusing to see whatever model is being tested it always comes out in 1st place against the opposition time and time again[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: MrDemon People must have real concerns of 85mph 2nd gears, electric steering, high tax and low mpg. I hate buying blind, but there is a lot of hype around Porsche ATM.
There is also a lot of total bullsh*t around Porsche ATM but always amusing to see whatever model is being tested it always comes out in 1st place against the opposition time and time again[:D]
we are all buying into the bullshit it seems
 
ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson
ORIGINAL: homerdog
ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson
ORIGINAL: homerdog It's a press car, same as MrD's - probably thrashed to within an inch of its life!
Wouldn't rev range activity tell you if that's the case or not?
I thought I'd do a MrD and was just making a sweeping statement, it wasn't based on facts! [;)]
Looks like it's more than just your cars that you have in common then, ironic really as you seem to be one of those who are quick to tell MrD to 'shut up' when he does the same.
I was being ironic, I thought that was obvious! You sound a bit touchy about it though, is it your car that's for sale?
 
this might be my treat till my GT4 arrives :) new spyder has missed a trick imo, PDK-s and electric roof I would have been all over it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xOdCFf1BFQ
 
Can you just imagine - you take your wife away for a nice weekend but on arrival at the hotel it's raining / freezing / dark / windy. To get her coat and bag out of the boot, or, indeed, your own, you have to put the roof down... Major flaw in my view. And you can't shut the boot without touching the paintwork, there isn't even a badge to press on like the 987.
 
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock Can you just imagine - you take your wife away for a nice weekend but on arrival at the hotel it's raining / freezing / dark / windy. To get her coat and bag out of the boot, or, indeed, your own, you have to put the roof down... Major flaw in my view. And you can't shut the boot without touching the paintwork, there isn't even a badge to press on like the 987.
What's in the front boot? Cash to pay the hotel bills [:D] Are you saying when you pop the rear boot the flying buttress's can't be unattached, boot opened, coat bag removed - buttress's re-attached boot closed Job done[&o]
 
yes looks like you can just un attach the 2 rear wings, but that's crazy to open the boot. :-( esp if you have to release tension on the top 1st. I'll stick with my older car for me for fun and a R8 Cab for usable posing. going to store the R for the rest of the year. I think my end goal is still a 458 depending of GT4 sale prices.
 
ORIGINAL: daro911 What's in the front boot? Cash to pay the hotel bills [:D] Are you saying when you pop the rear boot the flying buttress's can't be unattached, boot opened, coat bag removed - buttress's re-attached boot closed Job done[&o]
My stuff in the front boot - bottle of champers in a chiller, gets too warm in the rear boot and too dear at hotel prices [:(] Even if you just have to undo the flaps, that is still a pain in the rain. Albeit not a deal breaker. [:D]
 
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock My stuff in the front boot - bottle of champers in a chiller, gets too warm in the rear boot and too dear at hotel prices [:(] Even if you just have to undo the flaps, that is still a pain in the rain. Albeit not a deal breaker. [:D]
Let's take a step back - The Spyder has a manual roof and takes a casual minute to raise or lower this will be a deal breaker for probably 90% of Boxster owners if not more[:D] Now the brave 987 Spydermen who ignored the suncap & scarf arrangement bought the car discovered what a cracking Porsche had been bought by the few who now know the full facts beyond the roof Fast forward 5 years and Porsche have kept the same look, refined the fit & finished product to a totally new level even allowing the max speed to be achieved with roof on! If one has to access the rear boot with the slight inconvenience of undoing two flying buttress's in my book that's one massive step forward for Spydermen and something to celebrate [:D] I think the biggest flaw in the Spyder Gen 1 has just been brilliantly re-engineered in Gen 2
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ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock My stuff in the front boot - bottle of champers in a chiller, gets too warm in the rear boot and too dear at hotel prices [:(] Even if you just have to undo the flaps, that is still a pain in the rain. Albeit not a deal breaker. [:D]
Let's take a step back - The Spyder has a manual roof and takes a casual minute to raise or lower this will be a deal breaker for probably 90% of Boxster owners if not more[:D] Now the brave 987 Spydermen who ignored the suncap & scarf arrangement bought the car discovered what a cracking Porsche had been bought by the few who now know the full facts beyond the roof Fast forward 5 years and Porsche have kept the same look, refined the fit & finished product to a totally new level even allowing the max speed to be achieved with roof on! If one has to access the rear boot with the slight inconvenience of undoing two flying buttress's in my book that's one massive step forward for Spydermen and something to celebrate [:D] I think the biggest flaw in the Spyder Gen 1 has just been brilliantly re-engineered in Gen 2
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Depending on how you look at it, the roof on both cars is either stupidly inadequate by comparison to the regular Boxster, or an interesting quirk of difference at a time when everything is becoming more automated. Neither roof looks easier to use to me - both require you to stop, get out and go through a series of procedures and manually lower it. The newer car will take 60-seconds less time at the expense of being able to realistically use the rear trunk. The original car has the benefit of three roof configurations, with the roof on and rear section removed being highly unusual and not something I can remember seeing on another current production car. The 981 has a more powerful engine. Other than that I can't see how it is any better?
 

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