Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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I'm not sure abut the stripe on the new Spyder,daro911 said:Very nice Terry + Now question is to Stripe or not to Stripe []
Especially the odd bit on the front wing
The old 987 door was flat and could take it but the new car has a far more pleasing design in that area and imho looks better without the edition of the stripe
Saturday I finally got to do a proper break-in drive of ~580 miles (now at 835 miles on the odometer) over about 12 1/2 hours of wall-clock time. About 11 hours in the seat keeping revs where they're supposed to be. I went from Boston to Maine (Bangor, then down the Bold Coast to Rockland, then back home). I had to leave early because eastern MA was scheduled to get some light rain, but not too early because southeastern ME was also raining with it scheduled to end fairly early. In, "told you I was hardcore" fashion, I fueled up, dropped the top and off I went. In fact, the top remained down for every second I was driving. So... Rain with top down in highway speeds (wind deflector not installed). What happens in the Boxster Spyder?
[ul][*]At a drizzle, nothing. Maaaaaybe a drop or two on top of the door panel after 15-20 minutes, and two or three on the paassenger seat headrest, despite the windows being down.[*]At a light rain, I rolled up the windows to keep myself dry. Part of this is when I set off it was 60F, and as I went north it would drop to 38F. For 20-30 minutes this was fine regarding water intrusion.[*]However, once there's enough water on the trailing edge of the A-pillar exterior trim, that water seems to very slowly seep through the front of the window and onto the top of the door panel (at the front). Not much. Perhaps 1/2 a teaspoon after an hour. Any weight transfer seemed to accentuate this.[*]A few drops would dress the top of the seat headrests as they rolled off the top of the window. Nothing much. The low pressure area behind the seats (again, no wind deflector was installed) also created vortices that slowly covered the rear-view mirror in a fine mist.[/ul] All-in-all, I drove for somewhere between 1.5 and 2 hours in the rain before I pulled into a service station, and quickly dried it up in a minute with a waffle weave towel. There MAYBE was an ounce of water between everything. If the seal at the front of the window was extended just a wee bit, the only thing that likely would've happened was the rear-view mirror getting misted (which could be prevented by putting the deflector in). So pretty good car top-down in light rain at legal highway speeds, though I think at a medium rain or worse (which will last more than 15 minutes) you should stop and raise the top. And yes, everyone looks at you like you're absolutely bat**** insane.
[ul][*]At a drizzle, nothing. Maaaaaybe a drop or two on top of the door panel after 15-20 minutes, and two or three on the paassenger seat headrest, despite the windows being down.[*]At a light rain, I rolled up the windows to keep myself dry. Part of this is when I set off it was 60F, and as I went north it would drop to 38F. For 20-30 minutes this was fine regarding water intrusion.[*]However, once there's enough water on the trailing edge of the A-pillar exterior trim, that water seems to very slowly seep through the front of the window and onto the top of the door panel (at the front). Not much. Perhaps 1/2 a teaspoon after an hour. Any weight transfer seemed to accentuate this.[*]A few drops would dress the top of the seat headrests as they rolled off the top of the window. Nothing much. The low pressure area behind the seats (again, no wind deflector was installed) also created vortices that slowly covered the rear-view mirror in a fine mist.[/ul] All-in-all, I drove for somewhere between 1.5 and 2 hours in the rain before I pulled into a service station, and quickly dried it up in a minute with a waffle weave towel. There MAYBE was an ounce of water between everything. If the seal at the front of the window was extended just a wee bit, the only thing that likely would've happened was the rear-view mirror getting misted (which could be prevented by putting the deflector in). So pretty good car top-down in light rain at legal highway speeds, though I think at a medium rain or worse (which will last more than 15 minutes) you should stop and raise the top. And yes, everyone looks at you like you're absolutely bat**** insane.
This one looks priced to sell no miles but no Spyder alloys either []
[h1]Porsche Boxster SPYDER (2010) For sale from Porsche Centre Swindon, in Wiltshire, United Kingdom[/h1]£42,850
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[/link][/ul] [h3]DESCRIPTION[/h3]Interior package Alcantara Boxster Spyder, Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module, Sports seats, Sports exhaust system, Porsche crest embossed on head restraints, Heated seats, 19-inch Carrera S II wheel, Wheel centre set, 6-speed manual transmission, Sound Package Plus including CD storage, Fully automatic climate control, Floor mats, Universal audio interface
][h1]Porsche Boxster SPYDER (2010) For sale from Porsche Centre Swindon, in Wiltshire, United Kingdom[/h1]£42,850
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Saw this one at Sheffield PC last week. [link=http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/details/details.ipl?cid=1]http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/details/details.ipl?cid=1[/link]
Seems a bit pricey at £46,850 but less than 10k miles.
Seems a bit pricey at £46,850 but less than 10k miles.
I think that is where these cars should be ..given it will have full OPC history recent major service and a 2 year warranty in the price now't to pay till Dec 2017 .The ones at under £40K are value but possibly price driven as the owner is moving on to a 981 SPY or CGT4 and wants a quick sale to fund it and doesn't have a spare £65/70 k hanging around .
Wait till spring and prices will reach the high 40's If the new model had not been launched and less stock around the prices would be staring with a 5 imo .
Wait till spring and prices will reach the high 40's If the new model had not been launched and less stock around the prices would be staring with a 5 imo .
[link=http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1101277_2016-porsche-boxster-spyder-first-drive]http://www.motorauthority...ter-spyder-first-drive[/link]
[link=http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2016-porsche-boxster-spyder-first-drive]http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2016-porsche-boxster-spyder-first-drive[/link]
Some me nice reading material;-)
[link=http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2016-porsche-boxster-spyder-first-drive]http://autoweek.com/article/car-reviews/2016-porsche-boxster-spyder-first-drive[/link]
Some me nice reading material;-)
Nice review winding up with[8D]
Get the Boxster Spyder. It sits at maybe the optimal point between the raw, hairy Porsches of James Dean's past and the hypercar science experiments of Porsche’s turbocharged, hybridized future. It's the kind of car we're less and less likely to see down the road, especially from Stuttgart. To compare it to the ever-evolving, ever-improving 911 is to miss the point entirely.
Sure, 911 nuts might look at you sideways because you could have bought the car but you got this thing instead. You won't care, because you'll be blasting away from them, probably in second gear, in the driver's seat of a Boxster Spyder. And the driver's seat of a Boxster Spyder is a very, very nice place to be.
Get the Boxster Spyder. It sits at maybe the optimal point between the raw, hairy Porsches of James Dean's past and the hypercar science experiments of Porsche’s turbocharged, hybridized future. It's the kind of car we're less and less likely to see down the road, especially from Stuttgart. To compare it to the ever-evolving, ever-improving 911 is to miss the point entirely.
Sure, 911 nuts might look at you sideways because you could have bought the car but you got this thing instead. You won't care, because you'll be blasting away from them, probably in second gear, in the driver's seat of a Boxster Spyder. And the driver's seat of a Boxster Spyder is a very, very nice place to be.
[/ul]I reckon this car was sold early this year by Barr Tech.daro911 said:This one looks priced to sell no miles but no Spyder alloys either [
[h1]Porsche Boxster SPYDER (2010) For sale from Porsche Centre Swindon, in Wiltshire, United Kingdom[/h1]£42,850
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Another terrible review
[link=http://www.forbes.com/sites/markewing/2015/12/09/road-testing-the-porsche-boxster-spyder-hallelujah-this-is-the-boxster-to-own/]http://www.forbes.com/sites/markewing/2015/12/09/road-testing-the-porsche-boxster-spyder-hallelujah-this-is-the-boxster-to-own/[/link]
[link=http://www.forbes.com/sites/markewing/2015/12/09/road-testing-the-porsche-boxster-spyder-hallelujah-this-is-the-boxster-to-own/]http://www.forbes.com/sites/markewing/2015/12/09/road-testing-the-porsche-boxster-spyder-hallelujah-this-is-the-boxster-to-own/[/link]
I don't know whether you read Evo, but whilst flicking through the latest "Ratings Database" at the back it struck me that they have listed their choice of best Coupe to be a GT4, and of Sports Car / Convertible to be a Boxster Spyder. Can't be bad.
This week's Autocar is also very complimentary.
This week's Autocar is also very complimentary.
MrDemon
PCGB Member
I got my Spyder out the other day, not having driven the R for 2 months (sold) been driving the GT4 and my new TTS
the old 987.2 SPyder felt like a 20 year old car !
the plus point was HOW much feel and fun it was, hope you new owners don't regret the sale, nothing new comes close to the drive of the org ;-)
what a car, yes it rattle and shakes, and the steering wheel moves over a peanut, but that's what my weekend car is all about when not wanting to go for a Caterham or a Elise.
just shocked they are so cheap still should be £60k by now looking at other Porsche stuff, I am sure they will get there and maybe over take 981 prices at some point.
Maybe go back to April EVO and re read about my car, where they do say the new steering is in fact unforgivable ;-) you just have to drive an older car to see how good they were before
the old 987.2 SPyder felt like a 20 year old car !
the plus point was HOW much feel and fun it was, hope you new owners don't regret the sale, nothing new comes close to the drive of the org ;-)
what a car, yes it rattle and shakes, and the steering wheel moves over a peanut, but that's what my weekend car is all about when not wanting to go for a Caterham or a Elise.
just shocked they are so cheap still should be £60k by now looking at other Porsche stuff, I am sure they will get there and maybe over take 981 prices at some point.
Maybe go back to April EVO and re read about my car, where they do say the new steering is in fact unforgivable ;-) you just have to drive an older car to see how good they were before
Andrew Killington
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o April EVO and re read about my car, where they do say the new steering is in fact unforgivable ;-) you just have to drive an older car to see how good they were before
Steering feel is better in the 987 but overall imho as an owner of both the new car is in a different league for the average joe; if I wanted to make steering feel my top priority I would have stuck with the 996 RS. its horses for courses what floats your boat; look at the changes you've made to your 987, I would say good luck to you but I dont believe you are the average joe who just wants to get in the car and drive it for what it is; will you keep the GT4??
Steering feel is better in the 987 but overall imho as an owner of both the new car is in a different league for the average joe; if I wanted to make steering feel my top priority I would have stuck with the 996 RS. its horses for courses what floats your boat; look at the changes you've made to your 987, I would say good luck to you but I dont believe you are the average joe who just wants to get in the car and drive it for what it is; will you keep the GT4??
MrDemon
PCGB Member
I won't keep the GT4 long term as a gen 2 GT4 will be a better car or the RS will come out, so I'll part ex for either of those I guess.
I think the 981 GT4 and Spyder have room to get better and the new ones should be better esp in steering and bhp, to buy a car with a detuned engine just to me sound daft, the 3.8 should be 430BHP GTS lump lets hope the Cayman RS has the extra go faster bits which make the 991 GTS engine rev to red line nice.
The 987.2 car was at the top of it's game, last of the last 987.2's and they made a bloody good job if it.
will have to wait and see I guess what Porsche do.
As for "ave Joe" they buy a GTS, with a nice roof, and if they want it sporty you add x73 and buckets, hence finding a segment for the 981 Spyder is hard imo, it's a bit in no mans land for me, and no ones buying 2nd hand ! , Romans Spyder is a nice spec/car but still for sale, where top555 sold their yellow GT4 in about 3 hours at £110k !
don't get me wrong I would love a 981 Spyder if I could have 20 cars but for me at least it's a bit stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place. No adjustments still a crap roof and now less feel/fun, not a car for me, but I can see the appeal of them to some.
these 3.8 don't have the zing of the 3.4's ,so no need to rev out and you may as well just change at 6k revs, the 3.4's was a very sweet engine and would rev out really nice.
I think the 981 GT4 and Spyder have room to get better and the new ones should be better esp in steering and bhp, to buy a car with a detuned engine just to me sound daft, the 3.8 should be 430BHP GTS lump lets hope the Cayman RS has the extra go faster bits which make the 991 GTS engine rev to red line nice.
The 987.2 car was at the top of it's game, last of the last 987.2's and they made a bloody good job if it.
will have to wait and see I guess what Porsche do.
As for "ave Joe" they buy a GTS, with a nice roof, and if they want it sporty you add x73 and buckets, hence finding a segment for the 981 Spyder is hard imo, it's a bit in no mans land for me, and no ones buying 2nd hand ! , Romans Spyder is a nice spec/car but still for sale, where top555 sold their yellow GT4 in about 3 hours at £110k !
don't get me wrong I would love a 981 Spyder if I could have 20 cars
but for me at least it's a bit stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place. No adjustments still a crap roof and now less feel/fun, not a car for me, but I can see the appeal of them to some.these 3.8 don't have the zing of the 3.4's ,so no need to rev out and you may as well just change at 6k revs, the 3.4's was a very sweet engine and would rev out really nice.
MrDemon said:
That's the beauty of the Spyder Gen 1 & now Gen 2 only petrol heads get it as proven without exception in every review to date and your man in the street can't see the wood for the trees
Yellow GT4 sells in 3 hours very nice for the flipper and dealer but the buyer of that car is guaranteed to lose a whole heap of cash eventually and I have been told by several big used GT3 dealers the GT4's are being bought to thrash around the tracks as their GT3 customers now have to look after their garage queens which are far to precious to use for the intended purpose
So I can understand why they fetch far higher premiums in quicker times than any 3.8L GTS is ever going to achieve with its manual folding roof system [
]For me personally if depreciation proves as bullet proof as a Gen 1 then its job done I will have a low volume unique Porsche convertible that looks far more exotic than its list price suggests and will no doubt deliver me many miles of pure pleasure with a sound track to match the looks[8D]
Roll on summer 2016
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