Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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Another OPC another heavy spec Spyder [&:]
Price: On application With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Mileage: On application Exterior Colour: Jet Black Metallic Displacement: 3,800 cc Power Output: 375 HP Previous Owners: 1
[link=http://www.porsche.co.uk/leeds]Porsche Centre Leeds[/link] The Boulevard, City One West Park LS12 6BG Leeds Great Britain [link=http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/details/details.ipl?cid=1]Pre-Owned car stock[/link]
[h3]Vehicle Data[/h3] Displacement:3,800 ccPower Output:375 HPDrivetrain:2-WDTransmission:ManualFuel
etrolExterior Colour:Jet Black Metallic Vehicle Locationorsche Centre LeedsVehicle Ident Number:WP0ZZZ98ZGS150920Interior Finish:Black leather / alcantara in conj. with Silver stitchingMileage:On applicationRegistration Year:2016 (16)Price:On application
[h3]Equipment[/h3]20-inch Boxster Spyder Design wheels6-speed manual gearbox64-litre fuel tankAdaptive Sports seats Plus (18-way, electric)BOSE® surround sound-systemCarbon interior package (with leather interior package)Centre console trim in leatherFull colour wheel centre capsNet-type wind deflectorPorsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module Reversing cameraSeat heatingSmoking packageSteering wheel rim and gear lever in black smooth-finish leatherStitching in contrasting colourStorage net in passenger footwellTelephone module
Price: On application With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Mileage: On application Exterior Colour: Jet Black Metallic Displacement: 3,800 cc Power Output: 375 HP Previous Owners: 1
[h3]Vehicle Data[/h3] Displacement:3,800 ccPower Output:375 HPDrivetrain:2-WDTransmission:ManualFuel
etrolExterior Colour:Jet Black Metallic Vehicle Locationorsche Centre LeedsVehicle Ident Number:WP0ZZZ98ZGS150920Interior Finish:Black leather / alcantara in conj. with Silver stitchingMileage:On applicationRegistration Year:2016 (16)Price:On application[h3]Equipment[/h3]20-inch Boxster Spyder Design wheels6-speed manual gearbox64-litre fuel tankAdaptive Sports seats Plus (18-way, electric)BOSE® surround sound-systemCarbon interior package (with leather interior package)Centre console trim in leatherFull colour wheel centre capsNet-type wind deflectorPorsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module Reversing cameraSeat heatingSmoking packageSteering wheel rim and gear lever in black smooth-finish leatherStitching in contrasting colourStorage net in passenger footwellTelephone module
Will the next Spyder be a flat 4 [] What is it?
This is your entry point to open-top Porsche motoring, the new 2-litre 718 Boxster. Where once you had a sonorous naturally aspirated flat-six boxer engine, you now have two fewer cylinders, a single turbocharger and the second smallest engined Porsche you can buy after the base model Macan.
In the 20 years since the original was launched, the Boxster has been a constant contributor to Porsche’s profits, a serial group test winner and the car of choice for those who have outgrown their Audi TT but aren’t old enough for a Mercedes SLK (or SLC as it’s now known). But is the Boxster still the roadster of choice? The more powerful 2.5-litre S still tops its class, but we stripped it of half a star due to its engine’s lacklustre performance. With a smaller capacity and less power the 2-litre 718 Boxster has a tough task ahead of it.
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The engine in the 2-litre 718 Boxster is a sleeved down version of the flat-four fitted to the 2.5-litre S. Its 1988cc capacity is 509cc smaller and its 296bhp and 280lb ft is 49bhp and 29lb ft down on the larger unit. It is, however, a 35bhp and 74lb ft increase over the outgoing 2.7-litre ’six.[/h3]Peak power arrives at 6500rpm but it’s the arrival of peak torque at 1950rpm that represents the biggest change and indication of what’s to come. Unlike the more powerful S engine, the 2-litre motor does without Variable Geometry Technology for its turbocharger.
A six-speed manual gearbox is standard, the seven-speed PDK available as an option and fitted to our test car. If previous sales figures are anything to go by this will be one of the most popular driveline specifications.
Performance improves, with 4.9secs (4.7 if you go for the optional Sport Chrono) all that’s required for the 0-62mph sprint, and 11.1secs to reach 99mph (three-tenths quicker still if Sport Chrono is fitted) and it maxes at 170mph. The new engine produces lower CO2 (158g/km) and Porsche has plucked 40.9mpg from the auto industry’s random fuel consumption generator.
[h3]Technical Highlights[/h3]It’s not only a case of Porsche fitting new four-cylinder turbocharged engines in the 718, but how the whole car is built has been thoroughly overhauled, too. An aluminium and steel composite is used throughout, with the lighter material used for the underbody, doors and front and rear luggage lids. However, this lightweight construction has been required to keep the weight down because the smaller, but heavier turbocharged engine results in a 25kg overall increase over the old car (1365kg for the new car).
18-inch alloy wheels are standard, so too are passive dampers and four-piston calipers with 330mm front discs. A Sport button is also standard and switches the engine mapping and sharpens PDK shift speeds.
The spoiler integrated into the bodywork between the rear lights is not only home to some pretty crass badging but also rises into position at 74mph.
Despite its entry-level credentials the 2-litre 718 Porsche comes as standard with Bi-Xenon headlights and four-point brake LED brake lights.
[h3]What’s it like to drive?[/h3]Disappointing. Underwhelming. Soul destroying. All words and phrases I never thought I’d write about a Porsche sports car, but the 2-litre Boxster is a poor Porsche and the disappointment focuses on the moment the engine starts.
If you, or a friend, ever owned an air-cooled VW Beetle you’ll immediately recognise the unsophisticated clatter when you hear a 2-litre Boxster for the first time. Unfortunately it’s no better from inside, where the tone switches from that of a Beetle run on a student’s budget to an Impreza turbo with a blown exhaust.
Normally, in these situations things improve when the engine’s under load, but even Porsche hasn’t managed to pull off the impossible here. On the move the engine sounds broken, like it’s dropped a valve or two.
Then there’s the throttle response, which is far slower than expected and when hooked up to the PDK ’box brings the very worst out of the double-clutch unit. On a motorway or A-road with drive selected it will kick down two ratios as a matter of course at the smallest twitch of your right foot sending the engine into a thrashy and embarrassing flare of revs. Want to add 5mph to your speed to clear the middle lane of do-gooders? That will be three gears dropped and 5500rpm, this from an engine that delivers its peak torque between 1950-4500rpm. At times I question if the engine’s ECU has been calibrated with the one fitted to the gearbox, because on the majority of occasions it certainly doesn’t feel like it.
The engine’s turbocharged characteristics just don’t suit the car. The mountain of torque arrives with a thump and pushes through to 4500rpm but it’s only when the engine starts to reach its peak above 5000rpm does it begin to perform as you expect and want it to. The throttle sharpens and gains some precision so you can start playing with the revs and controlling the car on the throttle, working that brilliant chassis. But it’s such a narrow operating window it’s inaccessible for large proportions of a drive.
And that engine sound? Sadly it doesn’t get any better, actually it gets worse because at high engine speeds the flat-four just drones on and on and on…
So the engine’s pretty awful, but thankfully Porsche hasn’t ruined the rest of the car. The chassis still has the best balance in its class, and is so involving and rewarding that even the latest EPAS steering doesn’t ruin the enjoyment. The chassis loads up quickly and oh-so sweetly, and what the steering lacks in feel it makes up for in accuracy and a nicely balanced rate of response and speed. Get the Boxster up on its toes and the engine working hard (you may want some ear plugs at this point) and it’s still one of the most talented, involving and rewarding sports cars you can buy for less than £100k. It’s a shame the engine is no longer in the same league as the chassis.
[h3]Price and rivals[/h3]£43,661 is what Porsche will ask you for in return of a 718 Boxster 2-litre with a PDK gearbox, which is a £2,929 increase over the old 981.
Rivals? Previously there were few that could touch Porsche’s roadster, and in pure subjective terms it still has the best chassis and brakes in the business and while the engine’s a flop in terms of noise and usability, it still delivers a performance that less than a decade ago you’d need a 911 to replicate.
While it may be a little stripped back for some, Lotus’ 1.8 Sport 220 at £36,500 has the dynamic repartee to challenge the 718 and at just 918kg its 217bhp and 184lb ft isn’t the handicap you think it is.
At £46,360 the Mercedes-AMG SLC43 outguns the Boxster for both power, torque and cylinder count; its chassis may not be as talented but the more responsive turbocharged V6 does allow you to get more from it.
You’ll need to find £59,050 if you want the keys to Jaguar’s 335bhp/332lb ft 3-litre supercharged V6 F Type (although we suspect you’ll be able to negotiate discount on the slow selling F type), which offers a chassis between the Mercedes’ and the Porsche and an halfway house engine, too.
The 2-litre Boxster’s biggest challenge comes from its own family in the shape of Audi’s £42,800 TTS Roadster. Its offers both more power and the same level of torque (306bhp/280lb ft) but the Audi icon also has a more refined powertrain and a premium badge that for those put off by the Porsche’s poor engine will find comfort in Audi’s four-wheel drive roadster.
] What is it?This is your entry point to open-top Porsche motoring, the new 2-litre 718 Boxster. Where once you had a sonorous naturally aspirated flat-six boxer engine, you now have two fewer cylinders, a single turbocharger and the second smallest engined Porsche you can buy after the base model Macan.
In the 20 years since the original was launched, the Boxster has been a constant contributor to Porsche’s profits, a serial group test winner and the car of choice for those who have outgrown their Audi TT but aren’t old enough for a Mercedes SLK (or SLC as it’s now known). But is the Boxster still the roadster of choice? The more powerful 2.5-litre S still tops its class, but we stripped it of half a star due to its engine’s lacklustre performance. With a smaller capacity and less power the 2-litre 718 Boxster has a tough task ahead of it.
[h3]
A six-speed manual gearbox is standard, the seven-speed PDK available as an option and fitted to our test car. If previous sales figures are anything to go by this will be one of the most popular driveline specifications.
Performance improves, with 4.9secs (4.7 if you go for the optional Sport Chrono) all that’s required for the 0-62mph sprint, and 11.1secs to reach 99mph (three-tenths quicker still if Sport Chrono is fitted) and it maxes at 170mph. The new engine produces lower CO2 (158g/km) and Porsche has plucked 40.9mpg from the auto industry’s random fuel consumption generator.
[h3]Technical Highlights[/h3]It’s not only a case of Porsche fitting new four-cylinder turbocharged engines in the 718, but how the whole car is built has been thoroughly overhauled, too. An aluminium and steel composite is used throughout, with the lighter material used for the underbody, doors and front and rear luggage lids. However, this lightweight construction has been required to keep the weight down because the smaller, but heavier turbocharged engine results in a 25kg overall increase over the old car (1365kg for the new car).
18-inch alloy wheels are standard, so too are passive dampers and four-piston calipers with 330mm front discs. A Sport button is also standard and switches the engine mapping and sharpens PDK shift speeds.
The spoiler integrated into the bodywork between the rear lights is not only home to some pretty crass badging but also rises into position at 74mph.
Despite its entry-level credentials the 2-litre 718 Porsche comes as standard with Bi-Xenon headlights and four-point brake LED brake lights.
[h3]What’s it like to drive?[/h3]Disappointing. Underwhelming. Soul destroying. All words and phrases I never thought I’d write about a Porsche sports car, but the 2-litre Boxster is a poor Porsche and the disappointment focuses on the moment the engine starts.
If you, or a friend, ever owned an air-cooled VW Beetle you’ll immediately recognise the unsophisticated clatter when you hear a 2-litre Boxster for the first time. Unfortunately it’s no better from inside, where the tone switches from that of a Beetle run on a student’s budget to an Impreza turbo with a blown exhaust.
Normally, in these situations things improve when the engine’s under load, but even Porsche hasn’t managed to pull off the impossible here. On the move the engine sounds broken, like it’s dropped a valve or two.
Then there’s the throttle response, which is far slower than expected and when hooked up to the PDK ’box brings the very worst out of the double-clutch unit. On a motorway or A-road with drive selected it will kick down two ratios as a matter of course at the smallest twitch of your right foot sending the engine into a thrashy and embarrassing flare of revs. Want to add 5mph to your speed to clear the middle lane of do-gooders? That will be three gears dropped and 5500rpm, this from an engine that delivers its peak torque between 1950-4500rpm. At times I question if the engine’s ECU has been calibrated with the one fitted to the gearbox, because on the majority of occasions it certainly doesn’t feel like it.
And that engine sound? Sadly it doesn’t get any better, actually it gets worse because at high engine speeds the flat-four just drones on and on and on…
So the engine’s pretty awful, but thankfully Porsche hasn’t ruined the rest of the car. The chassis still has the best balance in its class, and is so involving and rewarding that even the latest EPAS steering doesn’t ruin the enjoyment. The chassis loads up quickly and oh-so sweetly, and what the steering lacks in feel it makes up for in accuracy and a nicely balanced rate of response and speed. Get the Boxster up on its toes and the engine working hard (you may want some ear plugs at this point) and it’s still one of the most talented, involving and rewarding sports cars you can buy for less than £100k. It’s a shame the engine is no longer in the same league as the chassis.
[h3]Price and rivals[/h3]£43,661 is what Porsche will ask you for in return of a 718 Boxster 2-litre with a PDK gearbox, which is a £2,929 increase over the old 981.
Rivals? Previously there were few that could touch Porsche’s roadster, and in pure subjective terms it still has the best chassis and brakes in the business and while the engine’s a flop in terms of noise and usability, it still delivers a performance that less than a decade ago you’d need a 911 to replicate.
While it may be a little stripped back for some, Lotus’ 1.8 Sport 220 at £36,500 has the dynamic repartee to challenge the 718 and at just 918kg its 217bhp and 184lb ft isn’t the handicap you think it is.
At £46,360 the Mercedes-AMG SLC43 outguns the Boxster for both power, torque and cylinder count; its chassis may not be as talented but the more responsive turbocharged V6 does allow you to get more from it.
You’ll need to find £59,050 if you want the keys to Jaguar’s 335bhp/332lb ft 3-litre supercharged V6 F Type (although we suspect you’ll be able to negotiate discount on the slow selling F type), which offers a chassis between the Mercedes’ and the Porsche and an halfway house engine, too.
The 2-litre Boxster’s biggest challenge comes from its own family in the shape of Audi’s £42,800 TTS Roadster. Its offers both more power and the same level of torque (306bhp/280lb ft) but the Audi icon also has a more refined powertrain and a premium badge that for those put off by the Porsche’s poor engine will find comfort in Audi’s four-wheel drive roadster.
Looks like Porsche are allowing cars to be advertised at over list again! Price: £ 98,000 With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Mileage: 677 m Exterior Colour: Racing Yellow Displacement: 3,800 cc Power Output: 385 HP Previous Owners: 1 [link=http://www.porsche.co.uk/midsussex]Porsche Centre Mid Sussex[/link]
[h3]Vehicle Data[/h3]Displacement:3,800 ccPower Output:385 HPDrivetrain:2-WDTransmission:ManualFueletrolExterior Colour:Racing Yellow Vehicle Locationorsche Centre Mid SussexVehicle Ident Number:WP0ZZZ98ZGK188620Interior Finish:Black (stitching in Racing Yellow) Leather interiorMileage:677 mRegistration Year:2015 (65)Price:£ 98,000
[h3]Equipment[/h3] 12-o'clock marking in Yellow20-inch GT4 wheels6-speed manual gearboxBalance of 3 years warrantyBi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) in blackCarbon interior packageCentre console trim in carbonDigital radioDoor sill guards in carbon, illuminatedFuel tank 64-litreFull bucket seatsInner door sill guards in leatherLight design package Mobile phone preparationPassenger footwell storage netPorsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interfacePreparation door-sill guards, illuminatedRacing Yellow seat beltsRear wing supports in blackSmoking packageSound Package PlusSport Chrono Package incl. Porsche Track Precision App and preparation for laptriggerSteering column casing in leatherStitching in contrasting colourTwo-zone automatic climate control
[h3]Vehicle Data[/h3]Displacement:3,800 ccPower Output:385 HPDrivetrain:2-WDTransmission:ManualFuel
etrolExterior Colour:Racing Yellow Vehicle Locationorsche Centre Mid SussexVehicle Ident Number:WP0ZZZ98ZGK188620Interior Finish:Black (stitching in Racing Yellow) Leather interiorMileage:677 mRegistration Year:2015 (65)Price:£ 98,000 [h3]Equipment[/h3] 12-o'clock marking in Yellow20-inch GT4 wheels6-speed manual gearboxBalance of 3 years warrantyBi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) in blackCarbon interior packageCentre console trim in carbonDigital radioDoor sill guards in carbon, illuminatedFuel tank 64-litreFull bucket seatsInner door sill guards in leatherLight design package Mobile phone preparationPassenger footwell storage netPorsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interfacePreparation door-sill guards, illuminatedRacing Yellow seat beltsRear wing supports in blackSmoking packageSound Package PlusSport Chrono Package incl. Porsche Track Precision App and preparation for laptriggerSteering column casing in leatherStitching in contrasting colourTwo-zone automatic climate control
Out of curiosity, why choose to take the old one, and not the new one?
Steve
Two reasons the car had only covered 17 miles since Sept last year where it was given a full service and 2 years warranty added so needed to be used .Secondly like so many field events I attend the entry in and out can be rutted and with the lower clearance on the 981 could end up damaged the splitter .Was out in the new one tonight at a chip shop run with PCGB guys . Doing the Silverstone Classic and the 987 will be getting used for that .
Two reasons the car had only covered 17 miles since Sept last year where it was given a full service and 2 years warranty added so needed to be used .Secondly like so many field events I attend the entry in and out can be rutted and with the lower clearance on the 981 could end up damaged the splitter .Was out in the new one tonight at a chip shop run with PCGB guys . Doing the Silverstone Classic and the 987 will be getting used for that .
The overpriced Porsche Ctek Battery Conditioner doesn't work with the 981 Spyder would like to know if it works with the 981's in general
I have discovered to my cost that all the power sockets including the cigarette lighter socket shut down approximately 6 minutes after you exit the car causing the Ctek conditioner to go into loss of power mode ie fast flashing orange battery charge light
Anyone else experienced this too on a 981 [&:]
I have discovered to my cost that all the power sockets including the cigarette lighter socket shut down approximately 6 minutes after you exit the car causing the Ctek conditioner to go into loss of power mode ie fast flashing orange battery charge light
Anyone else experienced this too on a 981 [&:]
Hi Animal - Yes I read the manual having waited so long for oneTheAnimal said:I may be wrong Daro, but I read something similar on PH and someone suggested you could have the OPC re-program one of the sockets to have continuous power.
Have you checked the manual. Have you even got a manual yet?
and I discovered the flashing orange light = loss of power to Ctek and then I doubled checked by leaning in and found lighter & power sockets are all programmed to shutdown soon after exiting the car - Waiting for a dealer response regarding if the factory settings can be over written but others have told me the only way you can get a conditioner to work would be direct connection to battery terminals which is obviously a pain, would need a very long lead from power socket to battery and the Porsche Ctek unit only comes wired for sockets []Hi I took my trickle charger to the OPC to double check it was the the correct one ( the manual shows two types of connector that exist, one correct and one that isn't) and the Service engineer said it wasn't necessary as battery was larger and that the car systems shut down more quickly (6mins!) obviating the need for the trickle charge. Time will tell
That maybe the case today however I understand the idea of a battery conditioner is to never let the battery fall below a certain level thus eliminating the the surges when starting up that eventually lead to a cell breaking downwoodstock said:
All I know is after regularly wearing out past Porsche batteries within 2/4 years max since using a conditioner I have never changed a battery. My 2005 987 S after 6 years ownership was starting perfectly and my 89 Speedster which was on battery number 3 when I first started using a conditioner was 7 years later still on that 3rd battery when I sold the car
I didn't think the 'Porsche' Ctek was any different to the generic Ctek ??
I have a couple of the non Porsche logo ones, just used the end with the eyes and left connected to the battery with the plug fed through the cover panel, so easy to connect.
I cut the eyes open and just slide them behind the battery terminal nut which I loosened slightly for fitting, so no actual disconnecting of the battery required.
I have a couple of the non Porsche logo ones, just used the end with the eyes and left connected to the battery with the plug fed through the cover panel, so easy to connect.
I cut the eyes open and just slide them behind the battery terminal nut which I loosened slightly for fitting, so no actual disconnecting of the battery required.
Andrew Killington
New member
Autocar claiming that top of the range 718's will be 6 cyl.
CTEK works perfectly with my 2013 981, using the footwell socket. Plug it in, turn it on, lock the car. A long time ago somebody said that yes, the sockets shut down after 6 mins, but if you plug the charger in and turn it on within 6 mins of turning off the ignition it keeps the socket live. I have never tested that, but I typically have just unlocked the car before I plug in the charger, which probably has the same effect. In this respect the footwell socket works just the same as my 987.2 Cayman S did. I have two CTEKs (MXS 5.0) of slightly different vintage (the newer one has an AGM setting and the other says use the winter setting for AGM) and they both behave just the same, working their way along the sequence of lights until they eventually get to the last green one. Hope that helps.daro911 said:
Oh, and by the way, as far as the driver's manual is concerned the footwell socket doesn't exist...
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