August Porsche Post Editorial

[Helen Goff]

the whole thing seems very unlike Stephen, it crossed my mind that his been offered a better job else where and this artical along with the nice picture of a replica is his way of giving the PCGb the bird[][][][]

 

[Guest]

I don't mind opinionated

Does that means that you accept/tolerate me, then ?!?!

ps I don't do smilies

 

[Mark_Bennett]

You're worrying me now John...

 

[Helen Goff]

ORIGINAL: John Bellringer

I don't mind opinionated

Does that means that you accept/tolerate me, then ?!?!

ps I don't do smilies

accepted and tolerated, john (i like the smilies[])infact the PCGB forum and events wouldn't be the same without you.

 

[Guest]

You're worrying me now John...

Good, that's how I like it !

Keep the punters guessing.

 

[Guest]

Alas, the spell checker wasn't used before the article was published

the title of the piece reads as "Opening Shot"........... surely a typo !

Great weather forecast for the weekend, top down, full throttle, go like the
clappers.

Happy Boxstering

 

[bones]

ORIGINAL: Sundeep993

Stating a 5K oil change will prevent engine failures is quite another.

would have to agree it was a surprising thing to read ! now being new (!) my first impression is that the driver of the 'older' porsche may not be fully aware of how modern technology has moved on ?

but to add... being new (yes that again!) the ed's artcile is the one I always read.. sets the scene and being the 1st one.. is thus by the far the most important and to make such a major technicial statement for a car range that has spanned decades would 'appear' to make that the position of the PCGB (?)..

so as a newbie I was suddently thinking that I should be doing an oil change every 6k miles rather than the 12k mile service intervals.. but at £200 a go.. that's making my porsche ownership much even more expensive than I had budgetted for ...

Sundeep you are way off track and being seriously patronising if you think the drivers of older model Porsches are technical ludites! We choose to drive such cars because we love them for what they are and increasingly it would seem their engineering integrity and excellence something which it seems the modern Porsche is not gracing us with. After such a long admiration of the marque that makes me rather sad and angry that the company has ever arrived at such a position.
BTW I can change your oil for a lot less than £200.00

 

[bones]

lol....good point I shall retire to a safe distance.
How much are you paying per litre for Mobil 1?

 

[Mark_Bennett]

A lot more at the OPC than anywhere else.
As they buy in bulk, I don't quite get why this is...?

 

[Diver944]

ORIGINAL: MoC2S
If you have a cheap source of quality Porsche Approved synthetic 0W-40, own up now !!

I don't want to get too far off topic but Oilman (who has been negotiating with the club to offer a member discount) sent me a price list with 16 litres of Mobil1 0w40 listed at £102. That's £6.41 a litre. A filter is no more than a tenner and while I admit I know nothing about changing 911 or Boxster oil, it takes me no more than 30 mins to change my 944 oil (and most of that is spent drinking tea while the old stuff drips out). I have two spanners in my signature so I'm happy to change oil at £100 a go and you can share my pot of tea while I do it. I do use smilies but there is not one for tongue in cheek, so here is a wink []

Stephens editorial does seem to have sparked a bit of debate which is healthy and while I appreciate that regular oil changing will not increase the life of an oil seal I do often get a bit bewildered when I hear owners of newer cars complaining about the cost of regular servicing being over a few hundred pounds. Then in another thread they are accepting dreadful trade in values where they have lost thousands and thousands of pounds over a year in depreciation.

It is my very strong personal opinion that car companies are increasing service intervals purely to pander to lower fleet costs, because it looks good in the sales brochure and because owners complain about high servicing costs? They are not increasing the intervals because the car can take it, or the oil can take it, and they are being very clever to ensure that 'most' engines last until the end of the warranty. After that I seriously think that long term, these cars will not last as long as the older ones which have a £200 oil change and a check over by a mechanic at least twice a year and then go on to do over 200,000 miles before any major work. I would not want to own a car capable of over 150mph that is only looked at by a mechanic every 20,000 miles. Other things wear out apart from oil getting dirty.

 

[75pno]

It's good to see that such a minor thing realy winds up you water cooled drivers !
Why do Boxter drivers never wave back ?

75 PNO
911 sse very white very wide !

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Paul,

The servicing schedule for my 2001MY car calls for the car to be looked at every year.
If less than 9000 miles have been covered, then a checkup is all that is required, but the oil is not changed.

So it does get looked at regularly, even if the expensive components - the oil, and 2 filters, pollen and oil (guess which is the most expensive of those two?!) don't get changed untl next time...

 

[Mark_Bennett]

ORIGINAL: 75pno

Why do Boxter drivers never wave back ?

Because there's no such car?[]

 

[75pno]

Well spelling was never my strong point!
My wife has a 03 beetle, me being a bit old fashioned rang to book a service at a year old, told 'has it beeped yet and is the service light on'
if not it will tell you when it needs service ! this could be up to 18,000 miles, or 3 yrs !!
Paul 75 pno

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Nice!

Or there is the other option - Pre-pay for servicing at the time of sale, like the mini, which seems extaordinarily good value (for servicing)

 

[Diver944]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

The servicing schedule for my 2001MY car calls for the car to be looked at every year.

Ah, cheers Mark, that makes much more sense. I knew if I spent 20 minutes writing more than a two line post I would get something wrong [8|]

 

[Mark_Bennett]

[]

I did say my car... The newer ones have a longer schedule.

Actually I agree - if I was hammering down the Autobahn at 150 everyday (and I would be![8D]) then I would be looking to get it checked over somewhat more often. Just as doing a few track days means getting the brake fluid and oil changed more often.

 

[Ivor]

Paul 75 pno

I wave!

 

[oilman]

If you want to save money, supply your own oil.

Make sure it's the correct grade and Porsche Approved and you'll have no problems apart from saving 50% of what the Dealer Charges.

By all means email me if you wish.

Cheers
Simon

 

[Sundeep]

ORIGINAL: bones

ORIGINAL: Sundeep993

Stating a 5K oil change will prevent engine failures is quite another.

would have to agree it was a surprising thing to read ! now being new (!) my first impression is that the driver of the 'older' porsche may not be fully aware of how modern technology has moved on ?

but to add... being new (yes that again!) the ed's artcile is the one I always read.. sets the scene and being the 1st one.. is thus by the far the most important and to make such a major technicial statement for a car range that has spanned decades would 'appear' to make that the position of the PCGB (?)..

so as a newbie I was suddently thinking that I should be doing an oil change every 6k miles rather than the 12k mile service intervals.. but at £200 a go.. that's making my porsche ownership much even more expensive than I had budgetted for ...

Sundeep you are way off track and being seriously patronising if you think the drivers of older model Porsches are technical ludites! We choose to drive such cars because we love them for what they are and increasingly it would seem their engineering integrity and excellence something which it seems the modern Porsche is not gracing us with. After such a long admiration of the marque that makes me rather sad and angry that the company has ever arrived at such a position.
BTW I can change your oil for a lot less than £200.00

steady on matey ! I was obviously referring to the chap who wrote the article.... [8|]

although I know what you mean in referring to the modern cost cutters.. personally I blame all the software& technology..... I mean what to do, your new 911 breaks down, so who do you call.. PC World or the RAC ! [&:]

but more importantly an oil change on a 993... what you think.. 100 notes ?