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Thinking about buying an ex-OPC demonstrator 987 Boxster S to replace the BMW M3 Convertible (that replaced my 986 Boxster S about 4 months ago). I'm well aware that it unlikely to have been run in with care, and that I'll need to pay almost full (new) price for it - but it saves me waiting for a new build slot. Given the likelihood that it has been driven hard for all 2500 miles of its life, what do you think that the downsides of owning it are likely to be? Clearly, I'll be checking the tyres, clutch, brake discs and pads etc - but what else? Thoughts?

Del[;)]
 

ORIGINAL: Delbox

Thinking about buying an ex-OPC demonstrator 987 Boxster S to replace the BMW M3 Convertible (that replaced my 986 Boxster S about 4 months ago). I'm well aware that it unlikely to have been run in with care, and that I'll need to pay almost full (new) price for it - but it saves me waiting for a new build slot. Given the likelihood that it has been driven hard for all 2500 miles of its life, what do you think that the downsides of owning it are likely to be? Clearly, I'll be checking the tyres, clutch, brake discs and pads etc - but what else? Thoughts?

Del[;)]
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Del there are "just had an order cancelled" cars out there. They are pre specced up OPC cars looking for punters! I would go for one of those any day of the week.
 
Thanks for that; I'll ask my OPC about 'cancelled orders'. But surely the ex-demonstrators can't be all bad? After all, the Boxster S is a sports car - and designed to be driven hard! Are Porsche GB and its OPCs sitting waiting for 'suckers' to buy the ex-demonstrators - or should the cars be a sound investment? The warranty will cover all things mechanical - and even some those 986s that were run-in with care suffered engine and / or gearbox failures; these, I believe, were replaced without problem. So what is the underlying problem with the ex-demonstrators - and the scepticism that they constitute a bad buy?

Del
 
Good point Rob,

This months 911 & Porsche World has some good info on this buried in their "how to buy an import 997" article...
 

ORIGINAL: Delbox

Thanks for that; I'll ask my OPC about 'cancelled orders'. But surely the ex-demonstrators can't be all bad? After all, the Boxster S is a sports car - and designed to be driven hard! Are Porsche GB and its OPCs sitting waiting for 'suckers' to buy the ex-demonstrators - or should the cars be a sound investment? The warranty will cover all things mechanical - and even some those 986s that were run-in with care suffered engine and / or gearbox failures; these, I believe, were replaced without problem. So what is the underlying problem with the ex-demonstrators - and the scepticism that they constitute a bad buy?

Del
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Del I can't answer how much abuse / damage a demo may or may not have suffered but I would imagine 2500 demo miles would show far more wear and tear than 15000 miles in my hands [&o] But switching channels for a minute if you can buy a brand new 987(for almost same money) is that not the obvious route to take rather than buying a second hand "unknown"
 
You're absolutely right - and I'll take that option if it is open to me. But, if the truth be known, I want one and I want it now! I regret trading in my 986S for the M3; it's not that the M3 is a bad car, I just had some problems with mine. So, understandably, we're coming back to Porsche - one way or another. It's so nice to own a prestige, limited availability car - rather than a clone of a 'rep-mobile'. However, the performance of the M3 is very impressive, the standard specification is good - and the price offers good value and bhp/£; but it's not a Porsche!

Del
 
Helen, I hear what you say - but we want a 987S; so I'm back to asking for further comments on my first two comments within this thread.

Del[;)]
 
ORIGINAL: Delbox

You're absolutely right - and I'll take that option if it is open to me. Butr, if the truth be known, I want one and I want it now!
Del
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Tip for you:- Only back in February whilst cruising one of the Porsche GB owned retail dealers the salesman got out a list of pre specced 987's about 8 in total all being delivered within 2-6 weeks so basically they had cars Ex Stock!! I believe this situation still exists and PM me if you want further info should you draw a blank... Good luck either way [;)]
 
Delbox,

Just bought a cancelled order - I think there are quite a lot of them about and even managed to get a few freebies with mine. If I was buying an ex-demo I'd be concerned about the run in. My mini was run in a bit harshly and it uses an awful lot of oil. Hope that helps.
 
I was offered one of 7 brand new prespecced 987 "S"'s from OPC Colchester a couple of months ago, 2 of which were on site, the rest due over the next few weeks. Sadly none had the spec I was after - missing on the bits I really wanted rather than the nice to have's. The ones that did have my essentials also had PASM, Sports Chrono and sat nav which I didn't want which meant that they were about 5 grand over budget. Whatever, there are cars out there.

About ex demos.... nothing inherently wrong with it as the cars are designed to put up with abuse but you could be getting something that has spent 2000 of those miles on the Test Drive Plus job, or have been on the Reading Press Fleet and you DO NOT want your pride and joy to have been b*ggered by Tiff Needel and co in a previous life.
 
The early ex demos will have bene used for both the dealer familiarisation sessions and the test drive plus' sessions

They will be more heavily used than a normal demo. This might be a bargaining tool tho [;)]

 
ORIGINAL: Delbox

Helen, I hear what you say - but we want a 987S; so I'm back to asking for further comments on my first two comments within this thread.

Del[;)]
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yes i guess what i ment to say was. haggle the price of the 987 down or get lots of extras thrown in. if the salesman won't talk deals then insist on talking to the boss( if its notts OPC then simon kemps the man in charge) if he won't talk deals then walk away and look elsewhere.
 
Have got rid of the M3 already so no trade in; suppose it depends how eager they are to deal! As 'Black80XSA' says, there must be some flex given the car's likely use - and that Porsche UK will have subsidised these cars heavily. I might be surprised: perhaps it won't have been used for TD+ and only suffered short local test drives - although the latter may cause more wear and potential damage than the former. I just hope that the dealership answers my many questions honestly; but you're right - I can always walk away, because there are another 33 UK OPCs to try!
 
no p-ex is a bonus when haggling. your in a win win situation here and your also lucky to live in a bit of the country with the most OPCs within a reasonable drive.

notts,shefield,sutton coldfield and sollihull.
 
For the test drives I have had, the dealer has taken the car out with me in the passenger seat, and run it for a few miles relatively gently until warm. Only then have they let me drive the thing.
If this is the norm, then I would guess that in general the demo cars may not be quite so thrashed as you might think.
This also assumes that the people who drive them actually know how to drive, and didn't miss gearchanges etc. Although in my experience most people actually drive quite gently, when in a quick car that they don't know.

If it has been driven hard straight out of the box, then I guess higher oil consumption would be the most likely factor.
 
Del, I didn't think you would last long out of the club, but where will your passenger go??[;)]

garyw
 
Good to hear from you Gary! Looks like it'll be Max and me in the Boxster and Michelle will need to tag along in her MX5 with Kirsty as a passenger!

Regards,

Del[;)]
 
Dellbox, if the car is as you want re colour and spec and its a dealer car not PGB press demo, then drive a hard bargain. If no response then as Helen said leave it.

As regards thrashed demo's have to agree with Stuart plus, no salesman/salesmanager wants to lose his or her job/future career/life/customers life, by letting somebody do anything stupid in a £40k+ car that they are responsible for.

Look at it how the trade do. Your neighbour pays £40k for his/her new Boxster. You pay £35k for the same car done 2k miles.
Three years later with the same milage you both part exchange and both get £25k offered.
Your neighbour lost £15k. You lost £10k.
Demo + one to trade means OK one owner. Two owners on a Porsche in a short time span is not a prob as they are that sort of car.

At the moment it is very quiet out there. Tell them what you want to save re new, if you find a dealer with a new demo sat ready to go to help the March target then that old demo will be yours.

Final thought chap, Michelle AND Kirsty!!! [:)][&:][:)]
I know we love our Porsche's but crikey, they can drive mine and I'LL tag along in the MX5!! [:D]

Cheers
DPH
 
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