Yes I saw that, but just thought it was a lottery when your car is being built at this current time.Motorhead said:
GTS 4.0
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Cars being built from now have the LED option reinstated. It's not the full PDLS+ system, rather the PDLS but with LEDs rather than a Xenon dipped/main beam.Motorhead said:
The cost over the xenon system is small and for me the benefits are twofold. They are slightly brighter, but more importantly the reports of headlight lens cracking/crazing problem seem to be heavily biased towards the higher output Xenons as used in PDLS. Possibly a result of their high heat output. That's enough reason for me to consider them an essential.
It looks like the options issue was being caused by the camera system required for the full PDLS+ functionality, other systems using it fell off the list at the same time. The current LED option is IMO perfect and worthwhile.
Is the 718 steering any heavier than the 981? I obviously don't have PSP and neither my wife or I have a problem with the steering weight at parking. So if there is no difference between models I will remove PSP.Wollemi said:
I don't want the race tex wheel, but do want heating. I have the multi function wheel in my Macan GTS and don't mind the small wheels for control.
I find ACC on the Macan superb and use it a lot in 30-40-50 zones, just set it and the car keeps the right speed or distance to the car in front and has saved points on my licence.
I will have to think about PASM, it's probably worth it come resale.
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Thanks for everyone's advice on here, placed my deposit this morning with expected delivery late 2024, probably not long before the EV is released.
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Cobydog said:
I received mine about 2 hours after they took the deposit.
Only just reading through it and looking at where the cancellation clauses are, just in case the exact car comes up early elsewhere or my situation changes dramatically.
I was assured by the OPC that the deposit purely reserves a build slot not a total commitment until the car goes to build and specification locked in.
It did make me wonder why I've heard nothing since handing over the deposit - as I've said before on this page, I am completely aware of what I have signed up to and like you, I will keep an eye on the used market as there are cars out there and I may go down that route whilst keeping the deposit at the OPC and leaving my options open......JurassicGTS said:
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I received mine about 2 hours after they took the deposit.
Only just reading through it and looking at where the cancellation clauses are, just in case the exact car comes up early elsewhere or my situation changes dramatically.
I was assured by the OPC that the deposit purely reserves a build slot not a total commitment until the car goes to build and specification locked in.
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Well, that's not quite correct, despite what the dealer wants you to believe. The deposit does not reserve you a build slot, it merely get you a place in your dealer queue for a car. They may / may not get a build slot for that car at all, and that they have no control over. That allocation is controlled by Porsche GB.
I received mine about 2 hours after they took the deposit.
Only just reading through it and looking at where the cancellation clauses are, just in case the exact car comes up early elsewhere or my situation changes dramatically.
I was assured by the OPC that the deposit purely reserves a build slot not a total commitment until the car goes to build and specification locked in.
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Well, that's not quite correct, despite what the dealer wants you to believe. The deposit does not reserve you a build slot, it merely get you a place in your dealer queue for a car. They may / may not get a build slot for that car at all, and that they have no control over. That allocation is controlled by Porsche GB.
I received mine about 2 hours after they took the deposit.
Only just reading through it and looking at where the cancellation clauses are, just in case the exact car comes up early elsewhere or my situation changes dramatically.
I was assured by the OPC that the deposit purely reserves a build slot not a total commitment until the car goes to build and specification locked in.
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Well, that's not quite correct, despite what the dealer wants you to believe. The deposit does not reserve you a build slot, it merely get you a place in your dealer queue for a car. They may / may not get a build slot for that car at all, and that they have no control over. That allocation is controlled by Porsche GB.
[/quote] No agree, you are correct it was just my wording..not my understanding, hence the reason for me searching the cancellation clauses
Bedtime reading
Did you get your paperwork through?Cobydog said:
What timeframe have they given you for an anticipated delivery date?
I have a test drive in a BGTS 4.0 on Tuesday
A friend of mine is lucky enough to have a part time job collecting/delivering cars for our OPC. He has just delivered one back after service and says it's one of the best cars he has driven...and he's a 911 guy.
OK so I sent another email today and copied in the OPC Manager - within an hour I got an email confirmation of the order plus an apology for the delay.
I don’t understand why I needed to do that to get a reply. Pay £3k and hear nothing.
Unfortunately this has just underlined everything thats been posted above.
ill keep the deposit at the dealer and i think I’ll look for a used in the meantime - theres a few about
I don’t understand why I needed to do that to get a reply. Pay £3k and hear nothing.
Unfortunately this has just underlined everything thats been posted above.
ill keep the deposit at the dealer and i think I’ll look for a used in the meantime - theres a few about
Update
Decided not to wait and with permission from SWMBO, I made some enquiries over the weekend on the available manuals that are out there.
Spent the past 2 days talking to a hugely helpful couple of guys over at Porsche Cardiff who did everything they could to get me into their GT Silver GTS - credit where credit is due, they came up trumps on my trade in and moved the asking price to make the deal right for me.
So my early Xmas present to myself is a stunning, nearly new GTS 4ltr which will keep me entertained until I hear more about my new order - which may or may not be some time in 2024
Decided not to wait and with permission from SWMBO, I made some enquiries over the weekend on the available manuals that are out there.
Spent the past 2 days talking to a hugely helpful couple of guys over at Porsche Cardiff who did everything they could to get me into their GT Silver GTS - credit where credit is due, they came up trumps on my trade in and moved the asking price to make the deal right for me.
So my early Xmas present to myself is a stunning, nearly new GTS 4ltr which will keep me entertained until I hear more about my new order - which may or may not be some time in 2024
Awesome and congratulations.Cobydog said:Update
Decided not to wait and with permission from SWMBO, I made some enquiries over the weekend on the available manuals that are out there.
Spent the past 2 days talking to a hugely helpful couple of guys over at Porsche Cardiff who did everything they could to get me into their GT Silver GTS - credit where credit is due, they came up trumps on my trade in and moved the asking price to make the deal right for me.
So my early Xmas present to myself is a stunning, nearly new GTS 4ltr which will keep me entertained until I hear more about my new order - which may or may not be some time in 2024
Presumably you test drove it, how did you find it vs your 981?
I will do a write up on my thoughts of my 90 minute test drive today in the Viper Green BGTS 4.0, but was pleasantly surprised.
Did you see the Carrara White 4.0 PDK they have in stock?
I had my Driving Experience day at Silverstone last week, which was a great fun as I got to blat about in Boxster GTS for a few hours learning skid control and racing lines. It confirmed my preference for a manual car, as for me, half the fun of driving is balancing the gear changes with throttle and steering inputs. It also made me 100% certain that I want the rear parking cameras, as I couldn't see a thing in the demo car when reversing into the parking bays. The other key decision for me to still make on the spec is to choose the body colour. Much as I like Aventurine Green, it can look really dull in poor light, so I'm now leaning back towards GT Silver with a red roof, red-accented GTS interior and platinum wheels.
Another item I may look to get fitted after-market is an exhaust, or at least a valve controller, to make the most of the lovely engine sound. I am currently looking into the Cargraphic controller, which keeps the valves open in the otherwise 'quiet' rev range from 2-4,000 rpm. The (clearly more costly) alternative would be to fit Lichfield's own GTS/GT4 slip-on exhaust, which happens to add 20 bhp too, so matching the GT4 & Spyder. I have huge respect for Lichfield, and they completely transformed the sound of my current GR Supra with an Akrapovic titanium exhaust a couple of years ago, as well as providing a bespoke ECU tune that really suited that car, which had felt lacking in power in standard tune beforehand (unlike the GTS).
However, I'm still waiting for a formal allocation from Porsche, despite having put in my order back in October last year. The latest guess from my OPC is a built slot around Easter, but that would be fine, as would early summer. I wouldn't bet on either though!
Another item I may look to get fitted after-market is an exhaust, or at least a valve controller, to make the most of the lovely engine sound. I am currently looking into the Cargraphic controller, which keeps the valves open in the otherwise 'quiet' rev range from 2-4,000 rpm. The (clearly more costly) alternative would be to fit Lichfield's own GTS/GT4 slip-on exhaust, which happens to add 20 bhp too, so matching the GT4 & Spyder. I have huge respect for Lichfield, and they completely transformed the sound of my current GR Supra with an Akrapovic titanium exhaust a couple of years ago, as well as providing a bespoke ECU tune that really suited that car, which had felt lacking in power in standard tune beforehand (unlike the GTS).
However, I'm still waiting for a formal allocation from Porsche, despite having put in my order back in October last year. The latest guess from my OPC is a built slot around Easter, but that would be fine, as would early summer. I wouldn't bet on either though!
Would you not be concerned about "playing" with the exhaust invalidating your warranty?owensc1 said:
How long after you paid your deposit to reserve your place on your OPC waiting list, did you get the PDE date?
I had a 90 minute play in a BGTS 4.0 PDK at a SW OPC yesterday.
It was 90 minutes drive from me also, so I had a real chance to compare to my 981 both before and after the test drive.
The OPC were great, basically went out with me to fuel the car then just gave me the keys.
So onto my views of the car.
Exterior: It is still a very pretty car, I love the satin black wheels, particularly on a light coloured car. I do still prefer the front wings and lights on the 981, just slightly less angular than on the 718.
Interior: I really don't think they have improved on the 981, the dash is less cohesive. I am not a fan of the stick up vents and forward position of the chrono clock and whilst the new position of the sport/sport plus control is close/handy , without my reading glasses I struggled to see which mode it was in, but the little button in the middle is great. It also leaves too many spare buttons in the central panel.
The 981 GTS seats have leather side bolsters, which I prefer to the full Alcantara bolsters on the 718.
Driving: Wow! This engine is superb. It pulls from any revs and is a real step up from the 3.4, which it should be with 400 bhp, but even so the performance surprised me. I agree with what most posters say about the noise though, it does sound good but not in the same league as the 981 3.4. It wouldn't put me off buying one it just sounds a bit more mature! On this car there was an odd fluttering type sound at around 2k revs.
The suspension seemed firmer, this car had the -20 setup, maybe the -10 is a little more forgiving, but it still gave a lovely ride. I did bottom out on a couple of rough road patches.
Overall I do like the package it and will probably go forward with my eventual new order. This car didn't have a good enough specification to encourage me to buy and driving my 981 back made me realise how b****y great it is and that I wouldn't swap it for a used 718. It would only be the opportunity to spec and own a brand new car right at the end of the production run and ICE that will get me to move on.
The above is purely my thoughts and I am sure others will both strongly disagree and agree, but just thought I would share.
It was 90 minutes drive from me also, so I had a real chance to compare to my 981 both before and after the test drive.
The OPC were great, basically went out with me to fuel the car then just gave me the keys.
So onto my views of the car.
Exterior: It is still a very pretty car, I love the satin black wheels, particularly on a light coloured car. I do still prefer the front wings and lights on the 981, just slightly less angular than on the 718.
Interior: I really don't think they have improved on the 981, the dash is less cohesive. I am not a fan of the stick up vents and forward position of the chrono clock and whilst the new position of the sport/sport plus control is close/handy , without my reading glasses I struggled to see which mode it was in, but the little button in the middle is great. It also leaves too many spare buttons in the central panel.
The 981 GTS seats have leather side bolsters, which I prefer to the full Alcantara bolsters on the 718.
Driving: Wow! This engine is superb. It pulls from any revs and is a real step up from the 3.4, which it should be with 400 bhp, but even so the performance surprised me. I agree with what most posters say about the noise though, it does sound good but not in the same league as the 981 3.4. It wouldn't put me off buying one it just sounds a bit more mature! On this car there was an odd fluttering type sound at around 2k revs.
The suspension seemed firmer, this car had the -20 setup, maybe the -10 is a little more forgiving, but it still gave a lovely ride. I did bottom out on a couple of rough road patches.
Overall I do like the package it and will probably go forward with my eventual new order. This car didn't have a good enough specification to encourage me to buy and driving my 981 back made me realise how b****y great it is and that I wouldn't swap it for a used 718. It would only be the opportunity to spec and own a brand new car right at the end of the production run and ICE that will get me to move on.
The above is purely my thoughts and I am sure others will both strongly disagree and agree, but just thought I would share.
The warranty shouldn’t be affected with a valve controller - it’s a simple plug-in device and so involves no modifications. I’ve had no issues with Toyota with my Supra either despite a new exhaust - I think it would be different if the cats were removed / replaced, but it was a ‘slip on’ exhaust instead, as would be the Lichfield version. The ECU tune is a potentially different matter, but Toyota designed the car with after-market tuning in mind and the dealers haven’t noticed it at all anyway in several visits -but annoyingly overwrote it when doing a warranty recall for safety system software! However it was easy to reinstall at a modest cost.
Re the driving experience, I think I got the invite around May, so that would be 8 months after I paid my deposit.
Re the driving experience, I think I got the invite around May, so that would be 8 months after I paid my deposit.
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