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My Experience - 9XX KH Racing Chip

barks944

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For Xmas this year I bought my father, the new owner of my 1984 944 Lux, a Klaus Hoffman Racing chip from www.jmgshop.com. When I owned the car I fitted it with a 1986 DME and AFM which enabled me to chip the ECU. The car is still running on the original early model fuel injectors, I think the flow rate is nearly identical anyhow. This morning we finally round to installing it into the car. For those of you who have not changed the chip in a bosch motronic system before its very simple and took me about 15 mins from removal to turning the key. Do make sure you ground yourself to protect the electronics from any static charge your body may be harbouring.

I always felt that the lux engine in my car just felt a little lacking, there may have been the odd occasion where it went reasonably well but it always felt like it was struggling. Most people seem to think the same thing about it and I have certainly read a few reviews that say the same. It never really felt like a sports car engine and when I changed to the 1986 DME and AFM it also lost a little bit of the low down grunt it had with the early injection system. It left the car feeling a little dull and really prompted my recent purchase of a 951.

As such I really wasn't sure what to expect from the chip, I thought Porsche would have done a decent job maybe with a bit of compromise here and there. However from the first time I turned the key I knew somthing was different, after spening so much time working on the engine you get to know how it sounds and how it vibrates. The engine was now sat idling quieter and smoother than it ever had before, its slight lumpiness and stutters were gone. Sitting inside the car many of the little rattles and vibrations were now gone. So far so good, but lets be honest 944's are for driving and should not be sat about idling.

All I can say is the next 15 mins of driving left me and my Dad in awe, the previously slightly ropey and tired engine had been thorougly transformed. The engine wants to go now, across the rev range it is transformed, it feels like a sports car now. Yet in contrast it is smoother and quieter than ever before. I love the Lux again!!

Well done KH and JMG, I'm seriously considering buying my Lux back! If you are driving a Lux and its on the standard chip then you are missing out badly. I'm expecting an increase in MPG too! How many of you Lux owners out there have chipped your Lux?
 
Another convert to chippery [:D] It gets tiresome when people go on about the small bhp gains possible with NA engines they completely overlook many other far more important issues. I certainly gained better fuel consumption with mine (this was with a rolling road remap), I think mostly due to reducing the jerkiness of the throttle response allowing more measured progress to be made.
 
I think the ignition map is contributing massively to the improvements. I can remember how it used to be and the more I think about it the more I think that ignition was retarded. It's hard to describe but the sound it makes now seems more natural to the engine.

I think the important point here is that the effects of *chipping* a car are completely down to the competance of the person(s) designing the chip. This experience tells me that KH is very competant when it comes to chipping 944's.
 
Are you on the motronic injection or aftermarket Pete? I thought rolling road mapping a motronic ECU would be a total pain, do you have to keep writing new chips and swapping them over etc?
 
When the Lux was mapped it was on a standard ECU, I didn't watch how Wayne did it but I'm sure he must have used some kind of piggyback arrangement just like the Vitesse I have fitted on the current S2 engine.
 
I have one in my S2 - superb! Better mannered, smoother, awesome acceleration and cruising at 80 indicated (about 77 GPS) on the motorway about 32 mpg.
Love it!
 
i have just bought an ECU to do this just need the AFM now which chip did you get the ecu is part number 0 261 200 076

sy
 
I think the ignition map is contributing massively to the improvements. I can remember how it used to be and the more I think about it the more I think that ignition was retarded. It's hard to describe but the sound it makes now seems more natural to the engine.
ORIGINAL: barks944


I found with my stand-alone that you can get away with advancing ignition timing on the Lux quite a bit before getting knock.
Its hard to tell as its been over a year since I ran stock Motronic but I personally think the Lux was held back a bit in the map.
BTW still got that loom if you want it.
 
ORIGINAL: ashonen

i have just bought an ECU to do this just need the AFM now which chip did you get the ecu is part number 0 261 200 076

sy

Not sure about the part number, however the different chips are for 26 pin and 28pin DME's. Open up the ECU locate the chip and count how many pins it has. If its a 26 pin you need the 1986 model chip.

They go really well with it, especially as the early lux's carry less weight than those chubby later models :).
 
Tell me the Porsche or Bosche part number of the ECU (or which car its off, though this isnt the best way to do it) and I'll tell you the part numbers for the airflow meters thatll suit it: and which cars theyre from (in the morning!).

Simon
 
Saturday was a great day for my 944's one Lux transformed by a simple chip and now my turbo is up and running with an apexi AVC-R boost controller. Now holds pretty much 1 bar to the redline :D. Sweeet.
 
ORIGINAL: 944 man

Tell me the Porsche or Bosche part number of the ECU (or which car its off, though this isnt the best way to do it) and I'll tell you the part numbers for the airflow meters thatll suit it: and which cars theyre from (in the morning!).

Simon

Thanks the ecu is part number 0 261 200 076
 
ORIGINAL: SteveSJS

I have one in my S2 - superb! Better mannered, smoother, awesome acceleration and cruising at 80 indicated (about 77 GPS) on the motorway about 32 mpg.
Love it!

Steve, that's very interesting - how long have you had it fitted? ...was considering the ProMax chip as I already have the ESS decat and I need to replace my blowing back box pretty soon.

I don't suppose anybody can comment on the difference between the KH chip and the ProMax? Anybody else got the KH chip on an S.2?
 
I too will be watching this thread with interest looking at the S2 owner's comments.

Before anything though I'll be changing the HT leads and rotor arm/cap (currently, the stock arm wants to eat caps (hopefully the new one will cure this).
 
Ooooooh, timely thread. I'm contemplating chippage on my S2 as well, and it seems that Promax is the accepted way to go with that model.

KH? Sounds like it is worth a look. Thanks.


Oli.

ETA: Just looked at the website linked to in the first post. While it seems KH do chips for the S2, they are £150 - compared with the £100 of the Promax items. Given that Promax seem to be the ones that everyone talks about, and the quoted BHP gains are very similar (not that BHP is the thing to go for - point taken - but it's the only comparable metric given), I think I'll need some fairly serious persuasion before I part with the extra £50. Sorry.
 
Oli,

Isnt it time you stopped contemplating and just got the chip? I know our S2's are fast already (especially compared to those turbo's) but I've heard you talking about getting a chip for the past year now, just do it, you wont be disappointed.

Edd
 

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

It's more like three years ... >shame<[:eek:]

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Oli is quite right to think this through properly and in a timely manner (maybe not years though [:-] ).

Lets not forget that after chipping his S2 he may have nearly the same amount of power as a poorly Turbo. He needs to make sure his driving skills and reactions are up to this new found power [;)] :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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