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My new 982 718 Cayman S PDK

Windscreen stone chip repair successfully completed. Impressive results. Only a tiny blemish visible if you know where to look.

Repair took around 45 minutes in total and much less stressful than a windscreen replacement.

Photos as follows.

Brian

 
Had the full front and rear brake service, brake fluid change and oil and filter change completed yesterday. after 12,500 miles and 5 track days both front and rear pads were 50% worn. The rear pads were down to 4mm and the brake wear sensors were starting to contact the discs. The front pads were worn to 6mm and showed cracks across the whole width of the pad material due to excessive heat. The discs on my car are good and do not need replacing. OPC's recommend replacing the brake discs when 1.5mm of wear is showing compared to OE new discs.

I also questioned the techie on the high oil temperatures showing when running in "normal" mode. Switching to "Sport" mode opens additional oil gallery valves and brings in to action all the ancillary oil pumps, reducing the oil temperature by as much as 12c. I was informed that the instrument panel oil temperature readings on the 718 are not true values. The actual temperature readings can differ significantly from those displayed. What is the point of this? Why provide temperature gauges that do not show the true values? I was brought up on the old fashioned analogue Smiths instrumentation, which showed oil pressure and temperature as it happened. I cannot see the point in providing gauges showing "nominal" or "artificial" readings. What are Porsche afraid of?

Photos below of my worn brake pads for those interested.

1. Front

2. Rear

Brian



 
Worn rear pads showing sensors starting to make contact with disc at 4mm thickness. Just proves the point about PSM, and PTV, applying rear brakes unknowingly to the driver. This is more prevalent with track day use, especially in wet conditions.

Brian

 
Brian,

I may be wrong but I was under the impression that the oil temperature reading is correct; it’s the coolant temperature which isn’t the true value.

I have to agree with you - what‘s the point? You might just as well have a big red light..!

Jeff

 
^^^ that is my understanding too on the 981 at least.

I once lost the vacuum tube to one of the rear boxes and therefore lost the vacuum driven coolant valve control. The dash temperature gauge remained the same for the 300 mile drive home but I could see the actual temperature going up and down within the ‘normal range’ via a Bluetooth iPhone app linked to the OBD port.

 
Motorhead said:
Brian,

I may be wrong but I was under the impression that the oil temperature reading is correct; it’s the coolant temperature which isn’t the true value.

Jeff

Certainly is with the 981.

Regarding the `false` temperature indication ... possibly due to `difficulty` positioning the sensor/s in the `correct for true` location/s ?

After discovering the higher oil temperature outwith Sport I now run `this` mode more often ... plus 14`C (90 - 104`) is well within spec. and in my mind beneficial ... my OPC senior tech. referred to it as the `efficiency` mode.

Brian ... good value from the brakes !

 
Motorhead said:
Brian,

I may be wrong but I was under the impression that the oil temperature reading is correct; it’s the coolant temperature which isn’t the true value.

I have to agree with you - what‘s the point? You might just as well have a big red light..!

Jeff
I did stress to the OPC techie specifically referring to the high oil temperature in "Normal" mode, never mentioning the water temperature reading. My understanding from the conversation was that the oil temperature readings are also not the true values. This is daft, in my opinion.

Whatever, I run in "Sport" mode all the time, as you also choose to do Andrew, with you 981CS. Properly warmed-up oil is essential for efficiency of lubrication and mechanical component protection.

The old Smiths gauges with copper conduit piping and spring loaded oil pressure release valves next to the oil filter were best. Electronics aren't always an improvement.

Brian

 
Ralph,

444bhp from the 2.5 is an indication of the potential of the single turbo flat-4. Are the cooling fans supplied with the modification? :ROFLMAO:

Brian

 
Brian,

No additional cooling arrangement. That's as far as he will push the power because the ECU will turn it down when it gets too hot. They do a lot of work to qualify their tunes which are developed on a multi-million Euro Maha dyno and track sensor and other relevant values during development.

Ralph

 
Ralph,

Just joking, but many a true word spoken in jest.....[;)]

Seriously, the engine cooling on the current 718 is a moot point. Especially in this current warm spell with ambient temperatures around 25c to 30c on a daily basis, even in the north of Scotland. I'm sure given time, after the warranties expire on the current batch of 718's, the aftermarket tuners will have no shortage of customers. For track day fans the tuning potential of the current 718 is a very attractive proposition.

Brian

 
Having had the full brake service, fluid change, and oil and filter change, my 718 CS is all ready for the next few weeks of touring and track days.

July 14th sees the PCGB Knockhill track day event, and it's the closest venue to where I live in the Highlands. Even so, Knockhill is still 160 miles south for me, and entails an overnight hotel stay. It's a short but wonderfully testing circuit.

Only 1.4 miles per lap, it provides the driver with an exhilarating blend of blind dips and crests, with a good measure of technical corners to keep you on your toes. It particularly suits rear wheel drive cars and Porsches in particular. The track was resurfaced earlier in the year, with new kerb profiles added to be "biker friendly" for the BSB rounds held there. For us car drivers this means the kerbs are smooth and grippy and are there to be used. Lap records have tumbled since the resurfacing work and the PCGB track day will be the first opportunity for us to sample the improvements. Be there if you can.

The week after Knockhill I am heading south for the long haul to the Silverstone Classic. I am staying with friends in Watford who are only an hour or so from Silverstone. On my return north after the SC event, I am taking the afternoon session at the PCGB Donington Park track day. I am looking forward to that, as my previous experience driving at Donington was in 1977. It'll be fun to drive it again.

Brian

 
Brian,

Looks like you've quite a trip lined up, one of the drawbacks of living at the extremities of the UK. I find it bad enough from Devon.

I'm doing the pm session at Donington too, so looking forward to making your acquaintance - a true legend of our forum !!

I got a bit nostalgic reading your comments on the old Smiths guages. I remember feeding the pipes around the engine, through the bulkhead and into the dashboard and trying not to kink them. Also, adding washers behind the oil pressure spring to get the pressure higher.

It was all much simpler then.

Rob

 
BJ Innes said:
July 14th sees the PCGB Knockhill track day event, and it's the closest venue to where I live in the Highlands. Even so, Knockhill is still 160 miles south for me, and entails an overnight hotel stay. It's a short but wonderfully testing circuit.

Only 1.4 miles per lap, it provides the driver with an exhilarating blend of blind dips and crests, with a good measure of technical corners to keep you on your toes. It particularly suits rear wheel drive cars and Porsches in particular. The track was resurfaced earlier in the year, with new kerb profiles added to be "biker friendly" for the BSB rounds held there. For us car drivers this means the kerbs are smooth and grippy and are there to be used. Lap records have tumbled since the resurfacing work and the PCGB track day will be the first opportunity for us to sample the improvements. Be there if you can.

It does sound great Brian and I know Chris will be there to fly the GT4 flag. I've come back from Spa/Zolder with too much work to catch up on so will not be able to make a late entry after all. Hope you can get some video for us. [:)]

 
Steve,

Shame you can't make it to Knockhill. It's fabulous track to drive. Kevin would love Knockhill his CR, a car which the agility and handling poise are ideally suited to the quick changes of direction and plunging dips.

For interest, my best motorsport lap in my CR manual, in full race trim shod with Toyo R888's medium compound, was 60.19 seconds. Last year, Rory Butcher the resident pro and current BTCC driver, piloted my 718 CS PDK around, two-up, in 58 seconds.........and that's on P-Zero N1's. I'll not match that, but for sure the 718CS is hugely faster than my CR particularly on the long uphill straight. For the record, the outright Porsche Carrera Cup fastest laps are shared between Michael Meadows and Dan Cammish, who both did laps in the 49 second bracket, albeit in different years and evo versions of the Cup cars.

It's good that Chris is making the trip north in his Manthey GT4. I'll be giving him a sighting tour lap in my 718 CS to help him get in the quick groove for Knockhill. I'll be taking my GoPro of course to record some of the action.

Rob,

Good to hear that you are also doing Donington. See you there.

Brian

 
Back home after a superb PCGB track day at Knockhill. The glorious weather, 24c for most of the day, made Knockhill even more special. With an entry of 40 cars there was plenty of space on the 1.4 mile track. A diverse selection of Porsches were represented, including several 991.1 991.2 GT3 RS's, and a 991.1 Carrera Cup car. There was also a Radical sport racer doing a few shakedown laps during the quieter afternoon session. With a few track day newbies present, there was a problem early on in the morning with some of them not giving way to faster cars. Following words with Steve Kevlin this was soon sorted out.

The resurfaced track and new kerbing profiles are a big improvement to Knockhill. The kerbs are smooth and grippy and are there to be used to maximum effect. With track temperatures being so high, tyres pressures had to be adjusted accordingly. I started off with 32psi and had to lower the pressures to 29psi as the hot conditions made on-track tyre pressures soar.

This Knockhill event was my first properly dry track experience with the new Michelin PS4S N0 tyres. So, what is my verdict?

To say I was disappointed would be putting it too strongly. Shall we say it was more a case of the PS4S N0's falling somewhat short of my expectations. Having had previous track experience with Michelin Pilot Sport Super Sports on my CR, at Silverstone GP circuit no less, I was hoping the PS4S N0 would offer an improvement in durability of grip over it's highly respected predecessor. Not so I'm afraid to say. On this hot day at Knockhill, the PS4S N0's would provide no more than 3 hot laps at motorsport pace before going all slidey, just like the Pirelli P-Zero N1's did last year on the same track, albeit in cooler ambient conditions. I expected more high speed performance by way of grip durability from the new PS4S N0. The G-Force readings recorded on Sport Chrono we're not all that impressive either. At the same track last year on P-Zero N1's I recorded a maximum of 1.38 lateral G, compared to 1.31 lateral G recorded this year on PS4S N0's. Not what I wanted to see. In my layman's opinion, I would say the dry grip durability problem lies in the tread compound and sidewall construction being focussed more on wet weather performance. The PS4S N0 is predominately a road tyre, Michelin say 80% road, 20% occasional track use. I would say it's more like 95% road and 5% track, in hot dry conditions that is. In the wet, on a track, the PS4S N0 is the best wet weather tyre I have ever experienced, period. In streaming wet conditions the grip is truly astonishing, let me be absolutely clear about that. I'm just sorry Michelin have chosen to trade-off some dry weather grip in favour of wet weather performance. I'm not saying the PS4S N0 is a bad tyre, far from it. For general road use, at road legal speeds, and in all weathers, the PS4S N0 is an absolutely top class premium tyre. However, for experienced track day exponents such as myself, they are nothing to write home about. Michelin Cup 2's are the tyres I would fit next time for my track day exploits. The parting shot? Michelin Pilot Sport Super Sports are the better tyre for general road and occasional track day use by being more durable in sustaining grip levels consistently in dry conditions. In my opinion I can't be fairer than that.

Brian



 
A very interesting report Brian, and I'm sorry to hear that the PS4Ss didn't live up to your expectations in the hot and dry conditions.

 
Brian, Concurs with my findings at Brands GP circuit again earlier this month. Initially started at 29psi cold (20 inch wheels), bled a lot off after first run, and later I did try reducing pressures yet again to 32 hot after advice from Cayman racer which gave a marginal improvement. An excellent road tyre and in wet, but comes up short on track in the dry.

 
penguinman said:
Brian, Concurs with my findings at Brands GP circuit again earlier this month. Initially started at 29psi cold (20 inch wheels), bled a lot off after first run, and later I did try reducing pressures yet again to 32 hot after advice from Cayman racer which gave a marginal improvement. An excellent road tyre and in wet, but comes up short on track in the dry.

It's good to hear I'm not the only one to discover this. As you say, the PS4S comes up short on expectations on a hot, dry track.

Brian

 

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