Neils thought for the day!

[Robert Edwards]

But the Cossie came after the magnificent 6.3, probably the best handling big car until the Bentley Turbo R (aside, of course, from the 6,9). What impressed me was that it was conceived as a rally car (the Quattro killed that) and they then repositioned it for touring car racing.

 

[Neil Haughey]

Im talking more about modern C class AMG's which tend to have big V8's from elsewhere in the range rather then special engines. The AMG development of the C class after the 190 was a good example.

This reminds me, what ever happened to Porsche making special models for other ppl?

 

[Hilux]

I think ppl get confused on these issues buying RS porsches for example and then not taking them on the track.

993 3.8L RS`s are increasing in value so fewer people are going to risk them on track.

Bloke rear ended a GT3 RS last year at Spa at the top bend after Eau Rouge (I am told he ignored the advice re braking at the bottom of Eau Rouge so as to settle and bottom out the car for the uphill bends [&:]) £40,000 damage (creased the body) and the record of the repairs are on Porsche`s history file so its worth loads less s/h as well as the uninsured repair costs []

 

[Robert Edwards]

ORIGINAL: Neil Haughey

This reminds me, what ever happened to Porsche making special models for other ppl?

The last one I can recall was the 500E Merc! But I take your point regarding the funny V8s.

 

[sawood12]

ORIGINAL: Neil Haughey


AFAIK this new 4wd system that Saab have been developing copies the Mitsubishi approach in using drive to the outer rear wheel to help the car turn. The idea of something like an Evo # in a Saab 9-3 body with reasonable ride comfort and NVH levels is very attractive to me.

Beaten to the punch by 20yrs. This is the Quattro 4wd system with the Torsen diff at it's heart. And I think Porsche borrowed it for their 4wd 911 variants. But then again Porsche borrowed the balance shaft design from Mitsubishi under license.

 

[Robert Edwards]

And they borrowed the contra-rotating balance shaft from Lanchester!

 

[Neil Haughey]

Er no because it is the electronics that makes the systems special.

 

[sawood12]

But in terms of the principle of where it sends the power and torque it is the same. Same principle, different ways of achieving it. Mechanical vs. electronic.

 

[Neil Haughey]

Don't forget Jensen FF.

 

[Robert Edwards]

Now that was a good car!

 

[Alex Postan]

Just picked up this topic.
I have had 4 Porsches over the last 20 years and still have two of them. One is rear engined and the other is mid engined and there are 34 years between their ages. The oldie gets the oohs and aahs - and the "what's it worth?" question is usually preceded by "Is it a real one?" (as if there was any other kind of Porsche!) but the newbie is the one that delivers.
There is only one best place for the engine.

 

[Guest]

Good to see there are not many blinkered Porsche fans here! I like a lot of Porsches cars, and being a car fan who is a product of the mags obsessions with the 911 - obviously I want to own one at some point. However, the Integra Type R and Caterham Seven were higher on the list that I really needed to own - ticked those both off.

Re Jethro's M3, the car was driven by a certain Walter Rohrl (or equally, another famous 'ringmeister) if I remember rightly, so nads were not in short supply... Agree that 944T would be easier to tune to get that sub 8m time.

Thanks to whoever said Derek Bell got a std '88 Turbo round in 8m 30! Fantastic pub fact!

Chris.

 

[Hilux]

Thanks to whoever said Derek Bell got a std '88 Turbo round in 8m 30! Fantastic pub fact!

[][][]

Re Jethro's M3, the car was driven by a certain Walter Rohrl (or equally, another famous 'ringmeister)

M3 GTR driven by Hans Joachim Stuck []

 

[George Elliott]

Fen, I have been busy and not followed the forum, - so my late reply.

I am curious, is your blue 964 gone? - I admired the pic's you posted. For your info I have a white (we disagree there!) 964C2, and I have had it for over a year but only put 150 miles on it. People ask me why I don't drive it and I make excuses but the truth is it does not feel like a 911. It should have tdi on the engine lid with that flywheel. I have a 964rs and its totally different. I love it. So perhaps we are of a similar mind, - do i go to 9M and get the C2 made into a 911, or do I get a 3.2, may-be even a 915 gearbox car, and sort the rust?

While I am considering this, i run a 1989 944T and cannot get the thing out of my system. It costs peanuts, can return 27mpg, has all the right spec - seats,diff,grunt,steering,brakes,demister/heater,discreet,4 chairs,luggage space,air-con,does not depreciate,easy maintenance. I learned a bit about the 44 on here - a good deal from yourself - so a word of thanks! (I also reshelled a 44t years ago for a Pal and fell for the design). The only thing missing is the forged rods, the 220 was a sweeter block I am sure.

Perhaps I should move the 964 on?

George

944T
964rs

 

[Fen]

George,

The blue 964 went in late May to a nice chap from Aylesbury who sounded like he was going to use it daily. I actually like white cars, though I think the impact bumper 911 looks better than the 964 in white - white needs something to break it up I think and the moulded bumpers with no rubber inserts don't do that.

It is interesting to hear that you consider the C2 isn't a true 911 as I had wondered if it was the 4wd that spoiled my 964 - I guess not from what you say. I have no plans to return to the 911 fold but I think the 964 has also put me off the 993 should I ever change my mind. I think it would have to be a 930 if I decided to have another one, though I woud like to try an early 70s model also.

 

[George Elliott]

Fen, I am working on 964 horn grilles, will keep you posted.

however horngrilles may not a 911 make

George

 

[Fen]

I think it's more to do with torsion springs than horn grills personally.