Nick USA for new Regional Organiser?

[pauljmcnulty]

Holding dual roles is not tennable for a permanant board member (set by the example of the chairman, Alan Welshman, who realised the additional workload would make holding both roles concurrently difficult).

Not sure I agree here. [8|]

Perhaps regions are more time-consuming, but running a register shouldn't be impossible whilst holding a board position. You've either got time to be a director or not (not in my case). With two assistants I could easily let them do more of the day-to-day register stuff if I needed to. I actually think that it's important the directors keep as much contact as possible "lower down" the Club, and being an RO or RS is a good way to do that.

Perhaps we need all registers over a certain size, and all regions, to have at least one assistant to both spread the load, and to take over more of the role if the RO or RS has a change in circustances such as board, family, work, illness?

 

[Tanzi]

I fear the Board may go with the solution of appointing a 'helper committee' to assist the current RO as suggested in PP. I do not believe this is the correct way forward when we have someone waiting in the wings who is keen to take over this role and give it the energy and new thinking it requires. I think leaving someone in place as RO who doesn't have the time to do the job, but getting other people to run around in the background doing a lot of the work is simply not fair when there is a credible alternative.

I must say I agree with Peter - I would have thought this could have been dealt with amicably by the Regional Director. Letting this run on ad infinitum is just winding people up!

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Holding dual roles is not tennable for a permanant board member (set by the example of the chairman, Alan Welshman, who realised the additional workload would make holding both roles concurrently difficult).

Not sure I agree here. [8|]

Perhaps regions are more time-consuming, but running a register shouldn't be impossible whilst holding a board position. You've either got time to be a director or not (not in my case). With two assistants I could easily let them do more of the day-to-day register stuff if I needed to. I actually think that it's important the directors keep as much contact as possible "lower down" the Club, and being an RO or RS is a good way to do that.

Perhaps we need all registers over a certain size, and all regions, to have at least one assistant to both spread the load, and to take over more of the role if the RO or RS has a change in circustances such as board, family, work, illness?

Paul I would not expect you to agree mate, but in this instance please read the previous 170 posts[]

Sorry 181 ...

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Paul I would not expect you to agree mate, but in this instance please read the previous 170 posts

Sorry 181 ...

Not made that one clear then....[&o]

What I meant to say is that I don't agree with Rick that it's impossible to hold an RO or RS role as well as a Board role, in fact it's often a good way to keep in touch and grounded.

I think every Register except the tiny ones, and every Region, should have at least one assistant to both help, and step up to fill the gap if someone's on holiday, has a work or family crisis, that sort of thing. That's not the case in R20, it hasn't helped the situation, and this shouldn't be allowed to happen in other Regions or Registers.

 

[carreraboy]

Maybe misunderstood Paul ... sorry

London Region and main Board IT are two massive roles ... and while I wish Kish well as IT Director, hanging on here as RO is ridiculous ... aligned together with the sentiment expressed here. There does not seem to be anybody who wants to work with Kish, as assistant, we want complete change please. Maybe the three volunteers mentioned last month want to make themselves known please! Or maybe a new Thread Introducing themselves.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Maybe misunderstood Paul ... sorry

London Region and main Board IT are two massive roles

Don't apologise just because I can't make my point clearly!

My opinion is that neither the London role nor the IT role can be done by one person; both need a team. My point is that with a decent team in place on both, one person with masses of free time could legitimately do both.

I don't like the idea of people feeling they can't stand for the board if it means them losing the role they do well and love, when there might not even be an alternative waiting to step in, if we set a rule that you have to stand down on taking up a board role. [8|]

 

[tallmat]

All fine in theory but to have a decent team in place requires leadership skills plus respect and support of the group being led. What exists now is the polar opposite.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Maybe misunderstood Paul ... sorry

London Region and main Board IT are two massive roles

Don't apologise just because I can't make my point clearly!

My opinion is that neither the London role nor the IT role can be done by one person; both need a team. My point is that with a decent team in place on both, one person with masses of free time could legitimately do both.

I don't like the idea of people feeling they can't stand for the board if it means them losing the role they do well and love, when there might not even be an alternative waiting to step in, if we set a rule that you have to stand down on taking up a board role. [8|]

The Essex Regional organiser was a Director and Chairman of the Club not so long ago. He had an assistant who he handed the running of the
Region over to whilst he was carrying out his duties at Head Office. On completion of Directorship he then took the Reigns back as Regional Organiser and is still running the Essex Region today.

Of course this only worked because The RO and his assistance were well respected and recognised as doing a good job by the membership in the Region!

 

[Beaky]

The Essex Regional organiser was a Director and Chairman of the Club not so long ago. He had an assistant who he handed the running of the
Region over to whilst he was carrying out his duties at Head Office. On completion of Directorship he then took the Reigns back as Regional Organiser and is still running the Essex Region today.

Of course this only worked because The RO and his assistance were well respected and recognised as doing a good job by the membership in the Region!

Unfortunately the issue here is the current RO hasn't run the region for the last 3 years!

Folks, the facts speak for themselves just check out this forum or PP over that period and you will see zip except for the inherited monthly meets.

(Admin edited the quote marks for clarity)

 

[Spy]

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

 

[Tanzi]

ORIGINAL: Spy

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

+1

 

[audi500]

ORIGINAL: Tanzi

ORIGINAL: Spy

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

+1 

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[tallmat]

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There's a thread in R20 homepage titled "Latest Events".

Last post: June 2006.

What else needs to be said?

 

[Dsmiler]

ORIGINAL: Spy

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

+4

 

[Beaky]

ORIGINAL: Dsmiler

ORIGINAL: Spy

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

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[eastendr]

ORIGINAL: Beaky

ORIGINAL: Dsmiler

ORIGINAL: Spy

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

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[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: eastendr

ORIGINAL: Beaky

ORIGINAL: Dsmiler

ORIGINAL: Spy

What I don't understand is how the London RO didn't have the time to attend regional meetings or organise events due to work commitments yet he now has the time to be IT Director of the club and RO ?

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Hey guys isn't this where the thread started ? Groundhog Day ?

+7 (& +8 (Ed))

 

[Tanzi]

Anyone know if the Regional Director is following the forum?

It does seem to be taking an age to get anything resolved on this one.

 

[carreraboy]

So who are the three volunteers .... ?

 

[audi500]

They all follow the threads. There is a meeting going to be arranged with London RO, one director and some London region members soon, hopefully very soon. But in the mean time this particular thread should only be used for plus's - no questions or answers