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Omg, how clean is this turbo?!

Keep an eye on Pistonheads, I bet its for sale for a looooong time!! Advertising it without a price I feel is a sign that the owner is aware that what ever figure they have in mind may be a touch unrealistic!!
 
ORIGINAL: pauly
No insult intended, I haven't seen either car, I can see why Simons car is worth £13k+ as it has also been mechanically overhauled and uprated, the 220 bhp car looks nice but It's much less desirable to me.

I didn't mean to suggest you did, I wanted to underline that the two cars are completely incomparable in terms of quality.
 
Strange car.

Love the fact that it seems to be rust free and solid, a genuine usable car thats been looked after. Would be a fanstastic daily driver and nice all round car. For the right price, I would love it but I can't see my idea of the price and his matching within 8k !

Maybe, leave it 6 months and offer 4k if its still for sale [;)]
 
This is awesome! I must admit I'd never do anything like that though...my cars don't ever get cleaned, and when I can't see the original paintwork, the local bunch of friendly blokes with power jet washers and soap get a tenner for me to get rid of all the crap!

In fact, I'm fairly sure there are still bits of pheasant stuck in the front grille of my other car - that was from a week ago when one decided to make acquaintance with my car at erm, 70mph on the M25. It got to meet the central reservation armco too...in two bits I think.

EDIT: caught the typo before I get accused of being a public school snob...
 
each to his own

doesn't do anything for me - I like clean well looked after cars either pretty much original or if you're going to modify them do it properly and sensibly. I've neither the time or the patience to get anywhere beyond that to concours, and if I did it would then put me off driving the thing - but good luck to those who do. the other way is much sadder - watching great cars fall into the hands of people who can't afford or don't know how to look at after them properly and then dying a slow death
 
ORIGINAL: Fen

ORIGINAL: pauly
No insult intended, I haven't seen either car, I can see why Simons car is worth £13k+ as it has also been mechanically overhauled and uprated, the 220 bhp car looks nice but It's much less desirable to me.

I didn't mean to suggest you did, I wanted to underline that the two cars are completely incomparable in terms of quality.

No problem, I agree.
 
Simon P's is superior, rebuilt engine (well rebuilt everything to the very highest standards), correct plating where the other has gold paint 250 base car versus 220, re-engineered to the highest standards versus cleaned. If the maintenance is up to date as well as the cleaning chris' car is excellent, Simon's is exceptional however better than new in almost all respects.
Tony
 
Big deal. I could paint the underside and engine bay of my car with gallons of hammerite too. Sure it's nice and clean but it ain't concourse and, as has been metioned, some of the original zinc-passivated bits have just been painted.
 
ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

Simon P's is superior, rebuilt engine (well rebuilt everything to the very highest standards), correct plating .....220, re-engineered to the highest standards ....... Simon's is exceptional however better than new in almost all respects.
Tony

Simon's is, perhaps, the best 944 I have seen. When you add in the mechanical aspects it could be the best 944 in the UK. If any 944 was worth £15K it is Simon's. - It even adds up financially .'. £7K for a good solid sound 220 Turbo + £7K for a blueprinted (better than new) engine with a hybrid turbo + £1K because you could have it now and not wait 12 months for the work to be done. [;)]

Regrettably, the painted bits on the first car would annoy me to such an extent I would have to replace them.
 
Saw it and thought, why ?.

I have been there.................[8|]

Restored a Rover P5B 3.5 V8 Coupe and got third in the country (Practical Classic Magazine trophy)

It was `interesting` owning it for if it went out in even mildy inclement weather I spent days underneath and all over the car cleaning it up. In the end I sold it as I got too tired of doing that to drive it so it stayed in the garage and ONLY came out on weekends that were dry ie: hardly ever!

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Awesome. That looks very special indeed.

I can relate to the weather watching. My Westfield had no provision for wet weather gear so, if ever I wanted to use it on the road, days of weather analysis would ensue. As with you, it seldom got used.
 
Thanks John, without blowing my own trumpet it was rather special. A complete ground up resto

I used my Westy on wet days (without side screens) and when on part lock turning right the offside front wheel used to shower you with water, grit and diesel wash [&:] Great fun however the aerodynamics meant that the INSIDE of the screen used to get soaked so the silly little wipers were pointless.

Some of us used to consider that side screens were for wimps....................great days......................sorely missed [&o]



Sorry..............................back to topic
 
ORIGINAL: Hilux

Sorry..............................back to topic

Nah - blow that. Tell us more about the big old Rover.

Did you screech around the countryside wearing a sheepskin coat and pretending to be the law shouting ' right lets blag the slags' at the top of your voice [:D]

I would have [:)]
 
Did you screech around the countryside wearing a sheepskin coat and pretending to be the law shouting ' right lets blag the slags' at the top of your voice


No, no no! One would surely sit in the proper place in such a car? The rear. With one's driver humming the theme from "Yes Minister". [8|]
 
A good mate of mine has an Alpine White 89 Turbo with M030 with around 60k original that would show that car up in every department, modded engine wise but done very neatly.
He stripped it to a rolling shell and cleaned or replaced everything with original, and give him his due it gets used regurlarly, i am not dissing the Grey one as it looks lovely but there are other cleaner cars out there though admittedly they are like rocking horse doo dah.
Hartech described it as "timewarp"
 
Sorry to disagree, Patrick, but I'm pretty certain that that has been painted. As has the black cover in the transmission (which should be flat black) and I suspect the alloy parts of the transmission also.

Even if it has been anodised that is just as incorrect as the original finish and has resulted in completely the wrong colour.

I have to agree with John - if that were my car I would not be able to open the bonnet without apologising for the hideous gold bits and I'd have to do something about them. On the other hand I could live with a bit of honest engine bay grime quite happily.

In any case if it is the car we saw at Goodwood it is apparent from looking at it that it has had a lot of attention that hasn't been done quite well enough. I forget the specifics but I'm pretty sure the lay of the metallic particles in the paint is different on some panels, for example. I actually didn't think it was an especially nice example at all when I saw it, just one that had had a massive amount of effort put into cleaning it. It's certainly far from concourse in any case.
 
A good mate of mine has an Alpine White 89 Turbo with M030 with around 60k original that would show that car up in every department, modded engine wise but done very neatly.

Not trying to defend it - I think concourse is a waste of a good car - but I appreciate it floats some people's boats.

If your friend has such a stunning car, why hasn't he entered it against the other concourse cars? I can't see why you'd take a car to that level and not compete? [8|]

Maybe one of the concourse judges, at least a few of whom are 944 owners, could clarify whether the gold bits are non-standard or not? [&o]
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
If your friend has such a stunning car, why hasn't he entered it against the other concourse cars? I can't see why you'd take a car to that level and not compete? [8|]

It's a personal satisfaction.
This concourse thing is in my opinion absolute vanity. While I feel a lot of respect for people who spend time cleaning up their car to a high standard it nearly makes me want to throw up to consider such unique and sujective performances being put into some sort of competition.
Why would anyone actually need to have someone else's judge their work in the context of a hobby? Isn't life already a competition hard enough on a daily basis?
 

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