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Part Ex Values - So disappointed!

ORIGINAL: tscaptain

ORIGINAL: daro911

Full recovery from the recent damage done you are looking at 20-30 years from now
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Crikey! I'd be impressed if someone could predict the state of the world in 20-30 MONTHS time and get it right![:)]
Anyway, like Gary says, all that bitchin' an a-moanin' ain't no good round here[:D]
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I actually find peoples veiw on this issue rather interesting [8|]
 
Me too, Don! That was meant to be a jokey comment.........oh well, if I had a day job I wouldn't give it up[:(]
 

ORIGINAL: Hasan

I was offered £23k for my car....which I think is quite frankly unbeleivable....
They are obviously not interested in part exing cars.
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Don't think there bothered about new car sales either as Newcastle are hopeless, id been in a few times looking at cars then i went in enquiring about a Gen 2 they said they didnt know anything about it ( this was when it was on the website) couldnt tell me when i could get one or when they would get a demo in etc and said they would ring me...never got the call so i went else where and bought one, then went back month later as they had a red one in same as what i had ordered (i was getting excited) so i said 'still waiting for my phone call?"

i also remember being in there when someone was looking at a car and wanted a test drive... sales guy said "theres not enough petrol in it can you come back tomorrow" i could not believe what i had just heard!!! how much effort is it to send someone to Shell with a tank...
 
Having bought a new 997 Cab with the intention of selling the old one Privately as I didn't like the OPC's offer, I am now 4 months down the line with no sale.

I have now put the car on Sale or Return at the OPC and it's up on their website at £47,850.

If anyone wants a car at a saving on the OPC price, they are welcome to contact me !

Its a Nov 05 Black cab and has been listed, and is still on the Forum 'For sale' section without so much as an enquiry !!
 
My experience of several OPC's is that they can vary quite dramatically from 'keen as mustard' to 'totally useless'

If that's the treatment you got from Newcastle, the verdict should be 'avoid' - they don't deserve the business.

Sometimes I think that all the best salesmen have left the car industry (and who could blame them) leaving just the totally unexperienced plonkers to run the ship - I feel sorry for them sometimes, they are totally out of their depth.

Personally I feel that the current abysmal residual values of 997's give us all (including Hasan and John) an excellent excuse to do what we should have been doing for years :

  • Keep the cars for ten years, ignoring the latest versions which we probably don't need anyway.
  • Drive the cars as much as you like without fear of higher mileages affecting the residuals.
  • Just enjoy.
Threre - don't you feel better now that you realise that you are free from the agonising decisions such as when to replace you car, with what model/spec, at what price etc. ?

Look on it as a type of musical chairs - the music has stopped and this is the car you are stuck with - so enjoy.

 
Well said, especially the get some driving done, if i don't get 200K out of mine I will consider the whole exercise a waste of time. [:D]
 
Well said Peter! I was very careful at first to keep the miles off the car but it makes very little difference any more. Just drive the thing and as you say, ignore the upgrades as any 997 is very capable.
 
ORIGINAL: Peter Cee

Personally I feel that the current abysmal residual values of 997's give us all (including Hasan and John) an excellent excuse to do what we should have been doing for years :
  • Keep the cars for ten years, ignoring the latest versions which we probably don't need anyway.
  • Drive the cars as much as you like without fear of higher mileages affecting the residuals.
  • Just enjoy.
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I too totally agree. Though the flesh is weak, I cannot afford to replaced my elderly Gen 2 anyway, especially after buying a Cirrus SR20 GTS. [:D]
 
This text message sales pitch won't help residuals at all

Anyone else had the "Upto £10k off a Porsche Demonstrator" text from there OPC

I am sure if you read between the lies you could get your OPC to register one of the unsold stock pile in there name first and then launder it to you with this discount [:D]

Now the discount is a grey area IMO 10k off today doesn't sound a lot when you can get that off your Land Rover, Ford, Vauxhall and some Astons are between 35-45k off list and under 1000 miles

Have even seen several old model delivery mileage AMV Roadsters with £45k discount and still no takers!

10k off today could so easily slide into 20k tomorrow if Gordons slip of the tongue yesterday proves to be true ie "Depression" [:eek:]

Depression:-Economics. a period during which business, employment, and stock-market values decline severely or remain at a very low level of activity.
 
ORIGINAL: daro911

This text message sales pitch won't help residuals at all

Anyone else had the "Upto £10k off a Porsche Demonstrator" text from there OPC

I am sure if you read between the lies you could get your OPC to register one of the unsold stock pile in there name first and then launder it to you with this discount [:D]

Now the discount is a grey area IMO 10k off today doesn't sound a lot when you can get that off your Land Rover, Ford, Vauxhall and some Astons are between 35-45k off list and under 1000 miles
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Yeh demo cars are 'used' and typically thrashed with no care of proper warming up etc!

A new car will drop more than £10k in value as soon as it driven away from the OPC, so why is a demo car different??

 
ORIGINAL: Alex L

ORIGINAL: daro911

This text message sales pitch won't help residuals at all

Anyone else had the "Upto £10k off a Porsche Demonstrator" text from there OPC

I am sure if you read between the lies you could get your OPC to register one of the unsold stock pile in there name first and then launder it to you with this discount [:D]

Now the discount is a grey area IMO 10k off today doesn't sound a lot when you can get that off your Land Rover, Ford, Vauxhall and some Astons are between 35-45k off list and under 1000 miles
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Yeh demo cars are 'used' and typically thrashed with no care of proper warming up etc!

A new car will drop more than £10k in value as soon as it driven away from the OPC, so why is a demo car different??
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In the early 90's my brother was offered a brand spanking new 911 Cabrio list price 65k but the OPC registered it in there name first and sold it to him the next minute delivery mileage for £45k [;)]

Fast Forward 18 years:-
I think the text message shows how low they will go today be it on a trashed ex demo or a pre registered stock car begging for a home [&o]
 
A new (or nearly new) sportscar is a luxury item, and because it is discretionary spending, the volume of sales is bound to suffer in a period of economic downturn.

The collpse of residuals affects the many loyal enthusiasts who have contributed greatly to the profitability of the Porsche brand by continuously upgrading their cars every couple of years.

I think we all know this is going to stop - and the effect on Porsche has yet to be fully felt by them, so over the next few years things will get tougher for them.

Personally I suspect that the effect on the OPC network of the collapse of sales, will require the OPC network to be pruned back, reducing the number of sites serving the UK - hopefully the good ones will be retained.

Which brings me on to what I feel is the only bit of good news (though I might be in the minority for the moment on this) - The new Porsche Approved warranty.

Ok, I know that it is hideously expensive - but then so is owning a new Porsche - but given that many of us may be considering hanging on to our cars for a longer time, what could be better than a new car warranty which can be extended up to ten years old ?

You're used to having the car serviced at a nice shiny OPC, you're used to the comfortable feeling of a fully warranted car and Porsche assistance, so what do you do ? - you just pay your money and carry it on.

They've just removed the one cast iron excuse for replacing your car, because its never out of warranty - and lets face it, a well cared for 911 is pretty close to as good as a new one.

The perfect product for the times which we find ourselves in - I think they are onto a winner with this one.
 
Im still getting sales brochures and letters from Swindon OPC where i actually bought a car from? nice little usb stick with the brochure on it etc

work that one out!, also ive heard nothing on my free driving day at Silverstone anyone know anything about this when you buy a new car?
 
ORIGINAL: johnwoods41

Im still getting sales brochures and letters from Swindon OPC where i actually bought a car from? nice little usb stick with the brochure on it etc

work that one out!, also ive heard nothing on my free driving day at Silverstone anyone know anything about this when you buy a new car?
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Re driving day at Silverstone, I had to chase Porsche Guildford about this. Got a quick answer and invitation through the door in a couple of days. Having said that, it has now taken over 2 weeks is to get Silverstone to send me the extra invitation I bought as part of the car purchase!!

Due to chase again after the weekend. Mind you, I'm in no hurry as I do not really want to play with their toys in the middle of winter.
 
They've just removed the one cast iron excuse for replacing your car, because its never out of warranty - and lets face it, a well cared for 911 is pretty close to as good as a new one.

The perfect product for the times which we find ourselves in - I think they are onto a winner with this one.
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Peter, I could not have put it better [:)]
 
ORIGINAL: Peter Cee

They've just removed the one cast iron excuse for replacing your car, because its never out of warranty - and lets face it, a well cared for 911 is pretty close to as good as a new one.

The perfect product for the times which we find ourselves in - I think they are onto a winner with this one.
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I'm pretty sure the consensus is that they are onto a loser with this new warranty. It's just too prohibitive to get and maintain eligibility. The old warranty also covered you for just under 10 years (although not as extensively).[:-]
 
The perfect product for the times which we find ourselves in - I think they are onto a winner with this one.
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peter,i can't believe you are in the majority-and indeed early uptake would seem to confirm this
 
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