silver rose owners

[944Turbo]

Ow!
Sorry, I cant see how them being in less desirable colours when new makes them more special. The very few silver roses in more desirable colours / trims will always be worth more than the pink ones IMHO - even the white ones. I dont think they will ever be worth much more than the other 250 models either especially the much sort after bridge spoiler models (no bias there []). The lack of sunroof will apeal to some but will be seen as a negative by others. If the windscreen is lighter (I am not convinced) how many cars still have their original windscreen and how much would it cost to fit one to a non silver rose?
All 944T's are superb cars, the 250s have bigger brakes, bigger turbos, stronger gearboxes, standard LSD, aircon, so that makes them more desirable in my mind.
The MO30 is a bonus on the 88,89 cars but then it will probably be worn and need a rebuild / replacment.
A true ex-race cup car is worth more but that depends how many times it as been crashed and how much of the original car remains.
Tony

 

[944Turbo]

PS I think the total numbers of 1990/91 (bridge spoiler) cars may be even lower than the silver rose limited production.
Tony

 

[Jon Darlington]

[FONT=arial unicode ms"]I think you missed my point, I am not saying the silver rose is better than any other turbo or for that matter any other 944. Also, is it possible to have a Silver Rose if it is not in the silver rose colour? Would it then not be a later 944 turbo S/SE?
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[FONT=arial unicode ms"]My point is that the car is interesting for loads of reasons, all of which should be considered and not just dismissed on the colour of the paint or the interior trim (seems a bit narrow minded).[8|]
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[FONT=arial unicode ms"]The focus "driver" approach of the car (even limiting weighty options) is something Porsche have not done for awhile with limited editions (CS excluded of course)....40th anv springs to mind more leather more toys, more weight (although still nice cars but for different reasons).[FONT=arial unicode ms"] This and the fact that its is not a standard colour make the car appealing.
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[FONT=arial unicode ms"]I am not a 944 expert and I am surprised that people who are owners/fans of the model, are so keen to put down a driver focus version, purely on the colour of paint and trim.[][FONT=arial unicode ms"] I for one would be holding it up as a car to appreciate.[]

 

[944Turbo]

Was actually replying to the post before yours but got distracted by work so you beat me too it.
Yes there were some of the limited production run silver rose (88) cars ordered in other colours. However all 89 turbos are the same spec but had the sunroof put back in. Later models could be ordered without the sunroof but this is rare.

The diffferences, between it and the later model turbo's are (possibly, haven't seen any figures but IIRC it is a different make) lighter windscreen/ lack of sunroof are very minor, most SRs I have seen have 8way electric seats instead of 4 way usually found on later cars for instance. So really in driver focus terms there is hardly anything in it.
I guess I would rather have a Silver Rose than in pink than most other cars, however! []
Tony

 

[Guest]

i'm only changing the interior because my drivers seat and the tops of the rear SPLIT seats are shot if i could get the original material seat i would keep it in .....the pinky mauvy purply colour it actually goes with my eyes (nope thats a lie) i bought the car for its originality and the next best option os to have the seats covered in leather (pink? with burgandy piping)[:'(] no prob cream or burgandy[]....only been a member for 3 days seems to have caused a stir......jealousy about the colour[][][][] maybe

 

[Guest]

i'm truly touched[&:] but how do i get my photo on here?

 

[richthomas]

Have you tried Southbound motor trimmers? Can't remember their exact location (someone will jump in no doubt[]) bu t they supply and keep staock of a lot of original Porsche cloth and trim. They advertise in Porsche Post and most other Porsche related magazines, might be worth a try.

 

[Guest]

thanks[] right boys and girls i now need some numbers or web addresses[]

 

[Fen]

Sorry but the Silver Rose wasn't driver focussed - apart from the anomalous screen and lack of sunroof (which was left out as Porsche supposedly thought the shell needed to be stiffer without it, not for weight saving) it was just as heavy as all the others. Why did it have air con and electric windows if it was a lightweight special? It didn't even have the sports seats my '86 220 Turbo had for heaven's sake! I've nothing against them in pink and in fact I think they should be preserved for what they are, but I wouldn't want to own one in that colour (though I'd keep it standard if I did). I also think the 250 Turbo would have come out regardless of the Silver Rose special edition.

 

[carlmthompson]

I read somewhere (in other words don't blame me for the info!) that the sunroof was taken out because Porsche believed that at high speed, the sunroof would be sucked out!

Of course, they later decided otherwise - although I don't know how many people will have tested the theory!!

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: silver rose baz

.....only been a member for 3 days seems to have caused a stir......jealousy about the colour[][][][] maybe

Well done Baz. There's nothing like a bit of a stir up to make the forum more interesting. It tends to liven up the whole area with people spilling into other topics. Long may you continue, Pink car or not. []

Much that has been said of the Silver Rose above is very pertinent. Special Editions are seldom more than a marketing ploy, or an means to achieve homologation for motor racing. The Silver Rose was both and can be celebrated as such. However, I don't believe it makes it any more valuable then any other 951 of equal specification or condition.

Any car is only worth as much as a potential purchaser is willing to pay. If someone particularly wants a Silver Rose then they will pay more. If someone just wants a 951 then the Pinkness and lack of sun roof may make the car less desirable. If you have a "real" Silver Rose, because you wanted a Silver Rose, then tops and high fives to you. You enjoy it and drive it with pride, as I am sure you do........................Poofter - only kidding. []

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: carlmthompson

I read somewhere (in other words don't blame me for the info!) that the sunroof was taken out because Porsche believed that at high speed, the sunroof would be sucked out!

Of course, they later decided otherwise - although I don't know how many people will have tested the theory!!

I would have thought that it was removed for motor racing, as per my homologation comments previously.

I'll come clean and admit that I'm quite jealous. I hate the poxy sun roof. It's far too cumbersome to take off as a matter of course and AC is much better any way. The damn things leak and ruin your interior and they are just one more thing to go wrong, and they do.

 

[Lemon]

Could not agree with you more John re the sunroof.
Been looking for mine for ages.
Oh no!!!! I don't have one []

 

[Guest]

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[Fen]

My sunroof's days are very numbered; I have a cunning plan []

 

[Guest]

[X(]i'd love a sunroof!!!!!!!! there would be a problem with me being sucked out of itpink my a**e

 

[richthomas]

Southbound 01264 810080

They used to have a website, but I can't seem to find it anymore, maybe it's down. They should be able to tell you if the material is avaliable or not.

 

[eastendr]

For my part, I think the removable sun roof is one of the best features of the 944.

Neither of mine have leaked or caused problems (touch wood). It's a decent size and (when removed) allows you to get 'long things' transported from B&Q etc - making the car even more practical.

I think the ghastly 'pink' interior (reminds me of a capri 1.6 LS I once had [:'(] ) is second only to the disgusting burgundy interior. Who is it that comes up with these colour schemes.

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: flamingeye

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Superb! Not only does the forum impart technical information but we are also expanding our literary horizons.

Isn't it funny how, ever since cars were any colour other than black, people had issues with pink.


The very best thing about the sun roof is, when going for a little cruise along with someone with their sunroof out, you can enjoy the excitement of them trying to put it back in during an unexpected torrential down pour.[] This is particularly impressive if you are leading the way to somewhere, are lost, and miles from an otherwise relatively nearby location. This might have happened once. Fortunately the man with his sun roof out didn't have long things from B&Q sticking out of it at the time - leather interiors dry eventually, but water plays havoc with electrical accessories.

 

[danmason]

ORIGINAL: eastendr
For my part, I think the removable sun roof is one of the best features of the 944.
Neither of mine have leaked or caused problems (touch wood). It's a decent size and (when removed) allows you to get 'long things' transported from B&Q etc - making the car even more practical.

Hear hear! Plus it greatly improves the soundtrack...

ORIGINAL: John Sims

when going for a little cruise along with someone with their sunroof out, you can enjoy the excitement of them trying to put it back in during an unexpected torrential down pour.

The trick here is just to drive fast enough - 50mph seems to be enough to keep the driver dry under most circumstances. Alternatively if you get stuck in a traffic-jam in a downpour, the sunroof can be re-attached from the front seats without too much effort (providing your arms are long enough). I would be less keen on either of my cars without the sunroof, and TBH the Turbo's aircon very rarely gets used, generally only abroad - it's nice to have both though.

My 924's roof did have major intermittent leak issues for the first couple of years I owned it; it took the cumulative effect of four or five separate 'cures' to sort it, but no trouble whatsoever now.