The £45k LHD 64RS

[jason]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

ORIGINAL: jason

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

Knock me down with a feather ...

Paul, you are right.

Hands up all those who are surprised.

No-one?

Guessed not...

Why not let everybody else speak for themselves ? I guess they will all be capable of reading the whole story ....

[8|]

They can...its a public forum[&o]

No one said you had a bad car Chris or that it had not had money spent on the work its had done - I remember seeing it when it was first advertised and word spread pretty fast that it had some panels removed and paint but a lot spent at Autofarm, it came on the market then off again pretty quickly then back on again.

As Paul said most have had some work or other these days and some people who think they have pristine original examples may be mistaken too. Paul even said he would have bought the car if it had been described as it was.

Your right everyone can make their own mind up and comment as they wish but from a sellers point of view I personally think your mistaken in keep pushing this thread......I can't see how it's helping your sale. Just let the thread die.

If its a good car it will sell anyway.....and probably quite quickly. The price will simply depend on what someone is prepared to pay and what you are willing to take.....THE WAY OF THE WORLD!

 

[RSGulp]

I like to think of these forums as being similar to being in the pub...

...lots of different conversations going on all at the same time. Some we're part of some we're not. New people come in and might (ought to) introduce themselves, make a little small talk and get to know a few regulars, then the conversation may turn to their particular interest, for example "I'm thinking of selling my car" or "Which wheels might look good on my 993?" or "Did you see that terrible singy-dancy thing on TV last night?".

Many of the people in the pub just sit on the periphary in the snugs, perhaps listening to the folks around them discussing all matter of subjects, even contributing every now and then.

The conversation between Chris, PaulMc and a few others at the bar has been an interesting one which many of the people in the pub have overheard - it was a little difficult not too at times, and some details might have been best discussed a little more quietly between you. Still what's been said has been said and perhaps now might be a good time for one to buy the other a hyperthetical pint and move on. The night is young and there's so much rs stuff to chat about before drinking-up time. []

Me? I'm just sitting at the bar with a few of the other rs guys, sipping our pints and watching Dessie work his magic on the girl standing at the jukebox. []

Come on guys, whose getting the next round in? []

 

[ChrisW]

I'm very happy to let the thread stop here.

I am, actually, in no hurry to sell the car --- it may take a time to fine a Clubbie and values aren't going down. The gap will hopefully remain the same.

Because I was looking for a learning process I was not looking for damage limitation --- and it's not in my character to run away from trouble.

We can all gain from this --- but I do have a horrible feeling that the car would have been described very differently by Paul, had he bought it and then sold it on.

I have been in touch with Julian who Paul saw with the car, and to say that he is angry about what has been said, is an understatement.

Sorry Paul.

 

[jason]

ORIGINAL: RSGulp

Come on guys, whose getting the next round in? []

I'll get'em its last orders.

Whay you havin Rich?

 

[RSGulp]

ORIGINAL: jason

ORIGINAL: RSGulp

Come on guys, whose getting the next round in? []

I'll get'em its last orders.

What you havin Rich?

Very kind of you Jason. I'll have one of these please... []

 

[carreraboy]

You are right Rich there are far more important things in life...[]

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: RSGulp

ORIGINAL: jason

ORIGINAL: RSGulp

Come on guys, whose getting the next round in? []

I'll get'em its last orders.

What you havin Rich?

Very kind of you Jason. I'll have one of these please... []

So will I, Thanks Guys. Chris.

 

[RSR]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

I'm very happy to let the thread stop here.

I am, actually, in no hurry to sell the car --- it may take a time to fine a Clubbie and values aren't going down. The gap will hopefully remain the same.

Because I was looking for a learning process I was not looking for damage limitation --- and it's not in my character to run away from trouble.

We can all gain from this --- but I do have a horrible feeling that the car would have been described very differently by Paul, had he bought it and then sold it on.

I have been in touch with Julian who Paul saw with the car, and to say that he is angry about what has been said, is an understatement.

Sorry Paul.

I'm angry as well ChrisW. Everything I have said is exactly how it happened between myself and Julian, so not sure why he is angry. He can call me if he feels I've said something out of order and I will make a formal apology if thats the case.

If its a learning process you're looking for you can call me and ask advice. There are other people on this forum who I have freely given advice to about what to check for.

Let me assure you that anyone buying the car from me would know about the damage. Your comment isn't appreciated. For this car my advert would not say "original panel car", but of course I would not say in the advert accident damaged as people then assume Cat D, Cat C or something. However when called about the car I would explain whats happened. There must be owners on this forum who have called about cars and after I've described them they've said sorry not for me I want an original panel car. Eventually I can find them one, but ultimately lose the sale on that particular one. As I've said before this is not an issue for me as I DON'T have to sell cars. It's a hobby and I love the cars. I'm a genuine enthusiast.

 

[jon.b]

ORIGINAL: RSR

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

I'm very happy to let the thread stop here.

I am, actually, in no hurry to sell the car --- it may take a time to fine a Clubbie and values aren't going down. The gap will hopefully remain the same.

Because I was looking for a learning process I was not looking for damage limitation --- and it's not in my character to run away from trouble.

We can all gain from this --- but I do have a horrible feeling that the car would have been described very differently by Paul, had he bought it and then sold it on.

I have been in touch with Julian who Paul saw with the car, and to say that he is angry about what has been said, is an understatement.

Sorry Paul.

I'm angry as well ChrisW. Everything I have said is exactly how it happened between myself and Julian, so not sure why he is angry. He can call me if he feels I've said something out of order and I will make a formal apology if thats the case.

If its a learning process you're looking for you can call me and ask advice. There are other people on this forum who I have freely given advice to about what to check for.

Let me assure you that anyone buying the car from me would know about the damage. Your comment isn't appreciated. For this car my advert would not say "original panel car", but of course I would not say in the advert accident damaged as people then assume Cat D, Cat C or something. However when called about the car I would explain whats happened. There must be owners on this forum who have called about cars and after I've described them they've said sorry not for me I want an original panel car. Eventually I can find them one, but ultimately lose the sale on that particular one. As I've said before this is not an issue for me as I DON'T have to sell cars. It's a hobby and I love the cars. I'm a genuine enthusiast.

Me. Paul sent me details of various cars, went through each in great detail. Explained what had been replaced, damaged, painted, chipped and so on. If it had a replacement panel he told me - absolutely no pressure at all. Ultimately with his help again I bought through Tom Schmitz but again Paul advised me on the condition of the car I bought. Only wish that I had bought directly with Paul as his help was invaluable through the whole process.

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: Ian964

ORIGINAL: Stewart H

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

ORIGINAL: Stewart H

I've been told that one on Pistonheads has had some panel damage and/or replacement. Don't know how true that is though.

I'm not sure about the panel damage, but it is the case that the car had quite a lot of paintwork done at Autofarm --- all detailed on the invoices, nothing is hidden.

The previous owner said this was because some of the paintwork did not match, which resulted in a complete respray --- rather like the one sold by Pink Pig for the high £40k's.

As an aside, I had the geometry set-up done on it on Wednesday and spent around an hour standing underneath it examining the metalwork ---- this is one very tidy car, but I want a Clubsport --- any offers ? Even the staff at Track Torque said it was the tidiest car they had ever seen.

We are talking about a 15 year old car --- and if it has had work done, who better than Autofarm ?

Chris.

No offence meant Chris. I mentioned it on another forum and it was one of the replies.
http://911ukforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13902&start=0

BTW, I'm the owner of the Pink Pig one and you're right, it has had a complete respray but no panel work. Porsche Reading reurbed it for a display in their showroom.

Sorry, that was me - I nearly bought the car before changing my mind and decided to go for something more track-focused and eventually ended up with a Cup car. I'd spoken to the PO at some length, as well as two other people who'd been to see the car.

Paul, look at my advertisement, is there anthing that I have said here that is untrue or misleading ?

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: RSR

Not sure which Red car is for sale on Piston heads but I looked at one from up north near warrington, owned by a chap called Julian Thompson if my memory is correct. This car had damage all down the lef hand side. New wing, door skin, and filler in rear wing.

Compare and contrast.

Is your comment a service that you offer to all the Forum members selling cars ?

Why not show us all what you are talking about at Ragley ?

The car will be there, will you ?

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

ORIGINAL: RSGulp

ORIGINAL: jason

ORIGINAL: RSGulp

Come on guys, whose getting the next round in? []

I'll get'em its last orders.

What you havin Rich?

Very kind of you Jason. I'll have one of these please... []

So will I, Thanks Guys. Chris.

I'll have another one of those please. Chris.

 

[OllieW]

Is this now constructive?

Or is this now done to death?

Lets see how quickly we can banish it to the search archive (please) []

 

[RSGulp]

Well stocked bar this! Jägermeister anyone?

 

[RSGulp]

Pint of Löwenbrau?? []

 

[RSR]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW
Is your comment a service that you offer to all the Forum members selling cars ?

I thought I made it clear your car is a good car that I would have bought.

ORIGINAL: ChrisW
Why not show us all what you are talking about at Ragley ?
The car will be there, will you ?

I hope Ragley is a good event, but unfortunately I can't make it. Strange as it may sound the PCGB have organised a Porsche Open race the same weekend as the annual meet. I'm committed to race in the Porsche Open at Silverstone.

Why not call me when you are with the car. Take 5 minutes tops.

 

[jason]

For god's sake Chris just call Paul - he is one of the reaaly good guys you rarely actually meet - and put all this to bed.

He's as honest as you'll ever find and if he's wrong he'll publically apologise like he said.

You both need to move on its doing neither of you any good...everyone can see that.




I'm just so glad my cars never been damaged[]

 

[jason]

EDITED TO SAY CHRIS I SEE YOUR CAR IS SOLD!

SO AS I STARTED THIS THREAD...MAYBE I CAN ALSO END IT.

EVERYONE KNOWS 964RS PRICES ARE NOW MID 40'S SO THAT'S THE END OF IT.

THREAD CLOSED


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[carreraboy]

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