This Sums Up Everything That I HATE About 944s Now...

[944 man]

Id noticed those, but disregarded them (I think that they should have a large logo in the top right corner). Without a front cage section theyre only going to be 'Speed' events stickers, if that is in fact what they are.

 

[Suffolk944]

I think the lights are Strosek (how does one company come up with so much Gawd awful body kit add ons ?) and that ESS/SAR once sold them ? I missed the bit about the alleged 3.0 litre engine - dont suppose someone with a fleabay account could send him a question about the engine and see what response they get back ?

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944
I missed the bit about the alleged 3.0 litre engine - dont suppose someone with a fleabay account could send him a question about the engine and see what response they get back ?

In the interests of the greater good, I've just called him. (The things I do for you guys! Being unemployed is a terrible curse ... you can all owe me a beer next time I get my fat ar5e along to a meet ... !)

Guy sounds friendly and well-spoken. Doesn't know much about engines. The work was done before he bought the car, and was done by a company (didn't ask who.) To quote him, "It's had an S2 engine fitted, which has been bored out to 3 litres."

"OK, thanks, tell me more. What do you mean by 'bored out'?"

"Ummm, well, I'm not quite sure. It's been overhauled, for sure. It got to 100,000 miles and was completely overhauled. And chipped."

So, without wanting to cast aspertions (he sounds like a nice chap), I would suspect it's the standard engine with a bit of a freshen-up. It shouldn't have needed work after 100,000 miles unless something was wrong, so what was done to it I don't know. I'd be fairly confident it's not an S2 lump.

He is putting some engine bay photos on eBay tomorrow tho', at my request, and sending me copies.


Oli.

 

[Hilux]

I`m older than a lot of people but still remember the excitement of youth and messing with cars. My son is a classic example, knows his own mind and who am I to tell him. They have to learn by mistakes as well as being taught. The difference is that they have more money to throw at their cars than we did at an age.

Sometimes I think we all forget and are too hasty to criticise for I do think whoever did it was 85% there but...........................horses for courses there are loads more worse than that car, even brand new modern boring cr*p pacific rim cars.

 

[bennyboy]

IMHO, 75% of this car could make a very, very nice motor, has certainly had money spent on it, the badge panel has been blended into the wings and the rear bumper has been detrimmed even! Swap the wheels for some 16" Fuchs, replace the tinted rear lights and the side skirts, sort the badge panel and the steering wheel and I think it would make a great, usable, classic Porsche with a bit of individualism!

(fights off thoughts about Martini stripes again...)

 

[Hilux]

Unfortunately exhibit A is doing the shouting but isn't a racing car.

But there are loads of 944`with DPW, MBC`s, AFM`s mahoosive engines, mahoosive exhausts, roll hoops, roll cages, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, splitters etc etc etc and they dont race, they dont even see a track year on year.....................doesnt matter one jot if they like their car.

 

[Alexw]

Is it slightly nose down in one of the those pics or is it a trick of the light? Doesn't a nose down attitude affect the handling in a bad way? Can't remember if I read that on here a while ago or not...???

 

[Mike_Pollock]

Looks great! had plenty spent - guess a frontal shunt would give the excuse to play with the nose.
Like - the martini stripes
Dont - the wheels, chrome inside, the front end/lights
Mike

 

[babyjack]

ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

I think the lights are Strosek

they are definitely Strosek in design, but probably made by a company called Jaquemond, I think they still produce it along with the Strosek rear hatch(not my cup of tea)
The lights are supposed to be "projector headlights", apparently

I remember a feature years ago in 911& PW about a strosek gull wing 928.It had the same badge panel, I wanted that car!

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: Hilux
...... still remember the excitement of youth and messing with cars......

Indeed. I took a jigsaw to the bonnet of my Mk I Capri because I thought it would help cooling. It might have done (although I now have my doubts) but it still makes me smile to think about it.....It did overheat less IIRC. []

The comments regarding the white car are very fair. I actually quite like the wheels so the only bit I am uncomfortable with it the badge panel. Stickers are of no consequence as they can be removed in minutes with a hot air gun.

 

[DivineE]

ha ha I'm pretty sure I've been out in that car! The guy who built it sold me some le mans tickets it 2004 it was only just finished back then. Engine was built by EMC it is a lux with an s2 conversion if its the same car. I can't think there'd be two with his custom headlight conversion.

Not my cup of tea but I respected his moddifying the engine as well as the body. A lot of people in that bracket are only interested in changing the way a car looks.

 

[babyjack]

"The acceleration isn't blistering, but you will find your self at 60 in less then 6 seconds thanks to the weight reductions"

So he removed the flip lamps & it's running gear. He then fitted the new front panel, new light units & a roll cage. I'm not up on my weights but it must be close to the original weight again?

Oh silly me, he removed the back seat! Right then, I'm ripping mine out now & looking forward to knocking a whole second off my 0-60
All you turbo boys buying expensive chips,MAFs & wastegates eh?. All you had to was take the back seat out!

If I remove the front passenger seat, hello sub 4 seconds!

Still no engine pics....

 

[babyjack]

Sorry, forgot to mention the extra weight of

The fire extinguisher,starter button & the unsprung weight of the 19" wheels.

And finally............ 16lbs of vinyl stickers

Still no engine pics...

 

[944 man]

If we're deconstructing it; then I like the clean and un-cracked early dash. The whole thing is terrible though, in my opinion.

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: DivineE

Engine was built by EMC it is a lux with an s2 conversion if its the same car. I can't think there'd be two with his custom headlight conversion.

DivineE is on the money.

Underbonnet piccies here, courtesy of Ash this afternoon. Looks like a pukka S2, and if done by EMC then it's probably a decent job. Could make a half-decent car to buy ...

Oli.

 

[944 man]

With all of the tat removed it could represent a bargain. I wonder if itll be bought because its got a big engine in a light car, or because its dressed up like a tarts boudoir? That it has the makings of something worthwhile just makes the mess it is currently worse, I think.

 

[edh]

with a Lux gearbox I wonder? lower ratios giving better accleration...

you know I'm almost tempted.... S2 motor in an early car makes a good track machine (with the right suspension setup)

 

[babyjack]

I know I'm going on about this power to weight thingy but,

Can anyone clarify the weight difference between the pre & post 86 cars? I thought it was the engine & PAS. This car now has both.

Nice engine though.

 

[944 man]

Probably an S2 gearbox Ed, as it came from Buttercup and was a Japanese import.

 

[zcacogp]

Still could be considerably lighter than a from-the-box S2.

Could make a decent car indeed. Get in there quick, as it is badly advertised then it may well not make much ...


Oli.