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scam75 · Apr 1, 2014

Thanks chaps. Both points seem valid as the car was owned by Porsche GB for the 1st 18 months of it's life and and it was also the 1st MY90 to come out the factory from what I can gather, hence the bridge spoiler but also forged rims. I have a feeling it may well have been specially ordered for someone high up in the Porsche GB fraternity.

Cheers

Stuart

MarkK · Apr 2, 2014

I have the 1990 price list with options and I am sure the CS rims were an option on it,maybe the sunroof delete was too?,maybe the car was specced for someone who was a bit more hardcore,director that was a wheelman!
I have CS wheels on my 1990 (I fitted these D90 from factory) and M030 suspension and arbs,no sunroof delete though[&o]
Your car sounds like a lovely spec.

944 man · Apr 2, 2014

The sunroof was an option. PCGB insisted that every car was sold with the option.

TTM · Apr 2, 2014

For what it's worth none of the LHD MY90 turbos I have seen had the sunroof, while all LHD MY91 turbos had it.

Mine came as a '90, no sunroof, D90s, no M030, and with M990 as the only equipment fitted as an extra over the equipments otherwise fitted as standard (M220, M573 and M593).

944Turbo · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: 944 man

The sunroof was an option. PCGB insisted that every car was sold with the option.

more than one car had it deleted though, personally I like it

944 man · Apr 2, 2014

They do Tony, yes. My point was that it wasn't a no cost option to delete, but that it was an expensive extra that PCGB forced buyers to take to squeeze them. This makes the cars without unusual and a good number were probably sold to forces staff stationed in Germany, who weren't buying from AFN/PCGB.

scam75 · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: MarkK

I have the 1990 price list with options and I am sure the CS rims were an option on it,maybe the sunroof delete was too?,maybe the car was specced for someone who was a bit more hardcore,director that was a wheelman!
I have CS wheels on my 1990 (I fitted these D90 from factory) and M030 suspension and arbs,no sunroof delete though[&o]
Your car sounds like a lovely spec.

I have the MY90 brochure and there is one image with a turbo sporting forged rims and the others all show D90's. All images show bridge spoiler. I have never seen another MY90 turbo supplied with forged rims but may well have been an option.

Tony enlightened me to one other MY90 turbo that had sunroof delete, we do not know if it still lives or where it originated from!!

My car definately started life on 1st August 1989 in the UK registered to Porsche GB or whatever they were known as. They owned it for 18 months before it was sold to it's first punter! The chassis number ends 10017 and I was informed by our Finnish chum Oli that numbers 10001-10016 were reserved for factory prototypes so number 17 is the first of its year to go on sale apparently. I have never been able to confirm or deny this but it makes sense. I wonder if anybody has a chassis number 1 to 16 which would disprove this?

Stuart

MartinRS2K · Apr 2, 2014

Stuart

On your VIL sticker in the boot does it have either of these option codes

395 - 16" Forged Alloy Wheels
030 - Club Sport Pack

944 man · Apr 2, 2014

M637 was Club Sport! We are at the mercy of arrant German translations again, though. I have seen both 637 and 030 listed as Sport Group. M474 for NA market 931s was listed as Sport Group too, which initially came with four bolt wheels and K70/924 brakes as standard (and only 150bhp). The same option number for 944 Turbos was listed as Sports Suspension, from memory.

944 man · Apr 2, 2014

*errant*

I have the wheels option btw, it was a forced option for 1988 model year Turbos and they were forged Fuchs Gullydeckels.

scam75 · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

Stuart

On your VIL sticker in the boot does it have either of these option codes

395 - 16" Forged Alloy Wheels
030 - Club Sport Pack

Hi Martin

I do not have 395 option so forged rims must have been standard on the build for my car. I do have M030 listed though and it came shod with adjustable koni's from the factory.

Stuart

MartinRS2K · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: scam75

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

Stuart

On your VIL sticker in the boot does it have either of these option codes

395 - 16" Forged Alloy Wheels
030 - Club Sport Pack

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Hi Martin

I do not have 395 option so forged rims must have been standard on the build for my car. I do have M030 listed though and it came shod with adjustable koni's from the factory.

Stuart

I was under the impression that D90's were the only standard wheels fitted at factory on the later cars and as there is no option sticker for different wheels could they have been fitted by the first owner (AFN Porsche) when the car was delivered?

If they had a set sat in stock it would have been a nice upgrade [

]

If you go onto the DVLA website and download the V888 firm you can send this off and it will give you all the V5's for the car and the original sales registration form for the Dealer. This may shed more light on who the car was for and any special order notes

pauljmcnulty · Apr 2, 2014

If you go onto the DVLA website and download the V888 firm you can send this off and it will give you all the V5's for the car and the original sales registration form for the Dealer. This may shed more light on who the car was for and any special order notes

The Certificate of Authenticity is a nice thing to have as well, should show all the original kit.

scam75 · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

ORIGINAL: scam75

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

Stuart

On your VIL sticker in the boot does it have either of these option codes

395 - 16" Forged Alloy Wheels
030 - Club Sport Pack

Click to expand...

Hi Martin

I do not have 395 option so forged rims must have been standard on the build for my car. I do have M030 listed though and it came shod with adjustable koni's from the factory.

Stuart

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I was under the impression that D90's were the only standard wheels fitted at factory on the later cars and as there is no option sticker for different wheels could they have been fitted by the first owner (AFN Porsche) when the car was delivered?

If they had a set sat in stock it would have been a nice upgrade []

If you go onto the DVLA website and download the V888 firm you can send this off and it will give you all the V5's for the car and the original sales registration form for the Dealer. This may shed more light on who the car was for and any special order notes

Forged rims were standard on MY89 turbos, as was rubber spoiler. For MY90 they changed to turbo D90's and bridge spoiler. Bridge spoiler never appeared on S2 until MY91 I believe. The MY90 brochure definitely depicts a bridge spoiler/forged rim car and also what looks like same car with D90's on another picture. I assume I had run out stock forged rims supplied either as a favour to the dealership or maybe becuase my car preceded the manufacture of turbo D90 rims? As Simon states my car was built during the factory "holiday" period. All conjecture! Although coupled with a non sunroof shell I think it's safe to say the car was specced by a Porsche employee somewhere along the line. Options listed in the sticker are:

030 - Sports suspension with koni dampers
220 - LSD 40%
288 - Headlamp washer
383 - Sport seat left, electric
387 - Sport seat right, electric
533 - Alarm
573 - Air con
593 - ABS
605 - Headlight levelling system

Nothing about wheels. Interesting that LSD, Headlamp washers, air con, ABS and headlight levelling are listed as as thought they were standard.

PS. I think 393 is the option for CS wheels, 395 is for Fuchs!

I also have all that stuff from DVLA from a previous owner. No mention of spec unfortunately but does state it was owned by "Porsche Directors, Porsche Reading" from 8/89 until 8/90. They done 17k miles in her. First member of public to own her purchased her during 8/90, a "rich farmers wife!" lol. She had it for 18 months, 17k miles, then traded in for a 968! She also pranged the o/s door. Clearly a boost free Porsche was required!!

Cheers

Stuart

944 man · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

I was under the impression that D90's were the only standard wheels fitted at factory on the later cars and as there is no option sticker for different wheels could they have been fitted by the first owner (AFN Porsche) when the car was delivered?

If they had a set sat in stock it would have been a nice upgrade []

If you go onto the DVLA website and download the V888 firm you can send this off and it will give you all the V5's for the car and the original sales registration form for the Dealer. This may shed more light on who the car was for and any special order notes

Stuarts date of first reg is a clue that you may be overlooking. Built and registered before the beginning of the production year with a serial number one beyond the pre-prod models.

Frenchy · Apr 2, 2014

If you ask very nicely and give the OPC parts lads your chassis number they may print you off a build sheet, this will show the customer order selected options.
I have them for both of my cars, though the Turbo S has a non standard as ordered interior, CS Recaros, bugger originality they are supberb [

] i think off the top of my head it came with black leather "comfort" seats which i px'd for the Recaros.

944Turbo · Apr 2, 2014

ORIGINAL: 944 man

*errant*

I have the wheels option btw, it was a forced option for 1988 model year Turbos and they were forged Fuchs Gullydeckels.

Was that the 220BHP 1988 turbos or the post S 250s? all the 89 cars with Konis had the CS style wheels with the bigger opening as far as I am aware the square opening Gullydeckels are quite rare on a 944.

I have seen another non sunroof car in blue for sale (possibly slightly darker than baltic but still metallic) it was one or two owner back in 2000 and had been in a barn near the guys place for 3 or 4 years when I saw it, run up and down the road every couple of months or so. It had done around 70k miles and was for sale for a while. It was a 4 speaker car with yellow konis and was 88 or 89 I think somewhere I might have the advert and posisbly even the options list. I didn't buy it, I bought a 1990 car with 10 speakers and a sunroof (my coupe). I haven't seen it again at any shows or anywhere and wonder if he sold it or put it back in the barn.

Tony

944 man · Apr 3, 2014

220s.

1988 220PS Turbos are quite rare too, and many have had their wheels swapped and the original Gullydeckels sold separately, which has been the case with my own car.

scam75 · Apr 3, 2014

So the plot thickens....after a bit of digging today it appears my car was delivered to Porsche Reading in June 89 (that must be a record for a "next year" car) but not registered until 1st Aug 89. No build details as yet, OPC could tell me it came with Porsche script seats and referred me to Porsche GB who look like they may more useful. They requested proof of ownership, scan of V5, and have promised to send me all the info they have on build, spec, who ordered it etc. and maybe a certificate of authenticity.

I await with baited breath!

Stuart

George Elliott · Apr 5, 2014

Stuart, I think you have stumped us all with that info. I've owned a Jan '89 and April '89 registered turbo, and one was chassis 700-ish and the other is 780-ish. Cannot understand 017 being June '89 build, UK RHD....[>:]
George
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